Has Freddie Roach lost the plot?

[Ron Swanson]

To J-undisputed

Your point is logical if it is little educated comments that you know are effective. Freddie is carpet bombing hoping something hits. But if he does say the right thing because he has said so much the one good comment has lost value.

[Beanflicker]

He's always saying crazy shit. Honestly, he should shut his mouth because he always ends up saying stupid shit.

For instance, take the DLH fight. Most people thought Manny was going to get killed, Manny pulls the big upset and hands DLH a beating. Instead of pumping his fighter up, saying "yeah we know DLH is a legend and it was going to be a tough fight but I was confident in my fighter's greatness", ect ect, he goes out and tells everyone that he saw that DLH couldn't pull the trigger anymore - that he was washed up - and that's why they took the fight. Why would you admit that?

[Master]

He's always saying crazy shit. Honestly, he should shut his mouth because he always ends up saying stupid shit.

For instance, take the DLH fight. Most people thought Manny was going to get killed, Manny pulls the big upset and hands DLH a beating. Instead of pumping his fighter up, saying "yeah we know DLH is a legend and it was going to be a tough fight but I was confident in my fighter's greatness", ect ect, he goes out and tells everyone that he saw that DLH couldn't pull the trigger anymore - that he was washed up - and that's why they took the fight. Why would you admit that?

Floyd says stupid crap too. All this talk is BS when it comes to the fight night.

[SlimTrae]

I like the artircle where Roach tells Pac :God don't give a F@#*k who wins..

[Ron Swanson]

I like the artircle where Roach tells Pac :God don't give a F@#*k who wins..

Did he throw in some anti-Semetic comments too?

[imp]

I like the artircle where Roach tells Pac :God don't give a F@#*k who wins..

The only thing he said that actually makes sense.

Freddie was also on record saying that floyds legs wont handle canelos youth...what happened in that fight?

[Beanflicker]

Floyd says stupid crap too. All this talk is BS when it comes to the fight night.

Floyd used to be in that boat to where he would call his opponents C-level and bums, but I think finally someone pointed out to him "ok... that means you beat a bum."

[Master]

Floyd says stupid crap too. All this talk is BS when it comes to the fight night.

Floyd used to be in that boat to where he would call his opponents C-level and bums, but I think finally someone pointed out to him "ok... that means you beat a bum."

Floyd would probably argue they are A level against normal opponents but it is he that makes them C level.

[Beanflicker]

Floyd makes great fighters look C-level because Floyd is the greatest of all.

[Master]

Floyd makes great fighters look C-level because Floyd is the greatest of all.

Or he is just handpicking C level fighters to protect his 0.

[Beanflicker]

My explanation is closer to the truth.

[Nameless]

IT's not very difficult; he's overtalking so the heat is directed toward him and not Manny. Which is pretty pretty smart actually. While they talk about him, Manny can focus quietly. Roach has been in the business since the dawn of dawns, he knows how it goes and what pressure is. He's just playing his violins accordingly.

[Spicoli]

I heard him on some interview Monday (?) where he went on about Manny has real dislike for Mayweather because he is without morals or some shit. Repeated 'he is not a good person' about 20 times.

[J_Undisputed]

To J-undisputed

Your point is logical if it is little educated comments that you know are effective. Freddie is carpet bombing hoping something hits. But if he does say the right thing because he has said so much the one good comment has lost value.

Of course he is. Like I said these are not carefully concocted plans. Freddy doesnt have time for that. Hes throwing crap at the wall to see what sticks. There's no direct line between freddy and floyd for freddy to start picking his brain. Freddy knows anything he says is going to blown up by the media and eventually be all over. Noone says it has to be true or even fair its just has to make its way to the people around floyd... Freddy comes out at the end of the day and says"floyds afraid of the dark ..." "Floyds got 3 testicles" ... "Floyd cant move his legs.." "FLoyd was dropped on his head as a baby" whatever the statement of the Day is.... and then its all over the internet the news papers.. etc.

How ridiculous would it be for Freddy to come out and say Floyd is a sucker for an "upper hook"...cuz hes never seen one. "We've been practicing it all day every day...." Now Floyd at the movies or in the club whatever and people are asking him about the dreaded "upper hook" and how he plans to deal with it. His kids are bringing it home from school.... whatever. It took Freddy 2 seconds.. by the time it reaches Floyd it has exponentially more energy and stupidity behind it. If he flipped out because a lady in a barber shop didn't know who he was... how about everyone in the twitter universe, where he goes echoing the sentiment that he is going to be knocked out by a mythical punch that's never really used cuz hes never seen one. It took Freddy one second to blurt it out. Practically no effort at all... but it takes on a life of its own.

I know it sounds crazy that it could be that easy. But think about the things floyds lost his cool over ... His kids mother talking to some scrub from the lakers on the phone .. He assaulted her and took her phone in front of his children. brian kenny had him stammering. Arguments in front of the HBO camera because his dad took credit for his success. It doesn't take much to set him off.

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[Ron Swanson]

To J-undisputed

Your point is logical if it is little educated comments that you know are effective. Freddie is carpet bombing hoping something hits. But if he does say the right thing because he has said so much the one good comment has lost value.

Of course he is. Like I said these are not carefully concocted plans. Freddy doesnt have time for that. Hes throwing crap at the wall to see what sticks. There's no direct line between freddy and floyd for freddy to start picking his brain. Freddy knows anything he says is going to blown up by the media and eventually be all over. Noone says it has to be true or even fair its just has to make its way to the people around floyd... Freddy comes out at the end of the day and says"floyds afraid of the dark ..." "Floyds got 3 testicles" ... "Floyd cant move his legs.." "FLoyd was dropped on his head as a baby" whatever the statement of the Day is.... and then its all over the internet the news papers.. etc.

How ridiculous would it be for Freddy to come out and say Floyd is a sucker for an "upper hook"...cuz hes never seen one. "We've been practicing it all day every day...." Now Floyd at the movies or in the club whatever and people are asking him about the dreaded "upper hook" and how he plans to deal with it. His kids are bringing it home from school.... whatever. It took Freddy 2 seconds.. by the time it reaches Floyd it has exponentially more energy and stupidity behind it. If he flipped out because a lady in a barber shop didn't know who he was... how about everyone in the twitter universe, where he goes echoing the sentiment that he is going to be knocked out by a mythical punch that's never really used cuz hes never seen one. It took Freddy one second to blurt it out. Practically no effort at all... but it takes on a life of its own.

I know it sounds crazy that it could be that easy. But think about the things floyds lost his cool over ... His kids mother talking to some scrub from the lakers on the phone .. He assaulted her and took her phone in front of his children. brian kenny had him stammering. Arguments in front of the HBO camera because his dad took credit for his success. It doesn't take much to set him off.

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I'm just going to step aside from this one because I don't really buy into any of this soap opera drama. I don't believe that woman didn't know who he was, I think it was an obvious troll job. I don't believe Freddie's comments will have any effect on the outcome. Frankly I don't believe a word Freddie says, he's a confirmed anti-Semite racist liar.

If he feels he needs to carpet bomb nonsense it shows their weakness not Floyd's, or they wouldn't need to show themselves so desperate.

A better way would be to be quiet and confident and let Floyd be stupid, but with Freddie doing the stupid Floyd can concentrate on training.