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    As for their findings about race related stops and arrests, the African-American community is the majority in Ferguson at 67% of the total population: meanwhile they make up 85% of the stops, 90% of the citations, 93% of the arrests. I don't know if the DOJ has looked around America in a while, but the African-American community is 30% of the population in the US and 60% of the population in prison so the numbers to me don't look terribly far off from the national average
    Despite the fact that white people in those stats are far more likely than black people to be caught with/doing something illegal. That's one of the reasons why people are so upset.
    Nationwide yes, in Ferguson alone no, it's mathematically impossible.

    Using Michael Brown as a poster child of "this is WHY we're mad" is pretty dumb because various evidence has shown that Darren Wilson was within his rights to shoot Michael Brown as Officer Wilson was assaulted just for trying to do his job.

    No I'm not a huge fan of cops nor of cops killing civilians, but there are some cases where I'm sure even the most bleeding heart liberal is thinking "That crook got what was coming to him". If you physically assault a policeman, you're going to get dealt with one way or another. Whether you're knocked out with a punch, sprayed with mace, or shot you WILL beat dealt with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
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    As for their findings about race related stops and arrests, the African-American community is the majority in Ferguson at 67% of the total population: meanwhile they make up 85% of the stops, 90% of the citations, 93% of the arrests. I don't know if the DOJ has looked around America in a while, but the African-American community is 30% of the population in the US and 60% of the population in prison so the numbers to me don't look terribly far off from the national average
    Despite the fact that white people in those stats are far more likely than black people to be caught with/doing something illegal. That's one of the reasons why people are so upset.
    Nationwide yes, in Ferguson alone no, it's mathematically impossible.

    Using Michael Brown as a poster child of "this is WHY we're mad" is pretty dumb because various evidence has shown that Darren Wilson was within his rights to shoot Michael Brown as Officer Wilson was assaulted just for trying to do his job.

    No I'm not a huge fan of cops nor of cops killing civilians, but there are some cases where I'm sure even the most bleeding heart liberal is thinking "That crook got what was coming to him". If you physically assault a policeman, you're going to get dealt with one way or another. Whether you're knocked out with a punch, sprayed with mace, or shot you WILL beat dealt with.

    Between October 2012 and October 2014, the Ferguson, Mo., police department reported making 11, 610 vehicle stops, according to a U.S. Justice Department report released Wednesday.

    Of those traffic stops, African Americans accounted for 85 %, or 9,875 , of those stops despite making up only 67% of Ferguson’s population. On the other hand, white individuals made up 15 %, or 1,735, of the stops during the same one-year period despite representing 29% of the population, according to the DOJ’s report titled “Investigation of the Ferguson Police Department.”

    The 102-page report noted that when a Ferguson cop stop African-American drivers, they are more likely to receive citations and to be subjected to searches of their vehicles.
    “Black people are significantly more likely to be searched during a traffic stop than whites people. From October 2012 to October 2014, 11% of stopped black drivers are searched, whereas only 5% of stopped white driver were searched,” DOJ reported.
    Although African Americans were searched at higher rates, they are 26% less likely to have contraband found on them than whites: 24 % of searches of African Americans resulted in contraband finding, whereas 30 % of searches of whites resulted in contraband findings.
    The DOJ reported that 91 %, or 8,987, of stopped black drivers received traffic citations compared to 87 % , or 1,501, of all stopped white drivers.
    The study noted that 891 of stopped black drivers—10% of all African-American drivers—were arrested as a result of the stop, whereas only 63 stopped white drivers—4% of all white drivers—were arrested.


    In Ferguson, Black Drivers Account for 85% of Traffic Stops

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    Thanks for repeating the numbers I already posted.


    I do have a few honest questions

    How did they figure up 26% I see 24% African-Americans caught with contraband and 30% Whites caught with contraband....I'm not the best at math so I would like some clarity there if you don't mind of course.

    When, where, how, and why were these stops made? I ask because it makes a difference in how we need to go about correcting the system. I'm not a real fan of road blocks as SOME officers certainly attempt to sidestep the God given rights of American citizens. Pullovers also can lead down that path depending on the officer. Some stops can be legit obviously, there are people who break the law and again Ferguson compared to the national average ain't far off (not saying the national average doesn't need changing because of course it does).


    I see a community looking to try and fund itself via citations and tickets as well as the long arm of the law overreaching with this dumb War on Drugs which has taken the average Sheriff/Police Captain and turned them from Andy Taylor Andy Taylor (The Andy Griffith Show) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia to Gerald Hege Gerald Hege - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ....the militarization of the everyday police force has had sickening results PLUS it hasn't stopped anyone from using whatever they like. Bust somebody with 300 pounds of pot, big whoopty shit go to a high school, go to a college, go to a concert, you could find 300 more pounds of it....the work they do halting the drug trade does nothing to stop supply or demand, it's wasted money AND if you legalize marijuana for example boom, tax revenue, no need for those traffic stops, no need for massive amounts of citations and tickets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
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    As for their findings about race related stops and arrests, the African-American community is the majority in Ferguson at 67% of the total population: meanwhile they make up 85% of the stops, 90% of the citations, 93% of the arrests. I don't know if the DOJ has looked around America in a while, but the African-American community is 30% of the population in the US and 60% of the population in prison so the numbers to me don't look terribly far off from the national average
    Despite the fact that white people in those stats are far more likely than black people to be caught with/doing something illegal. That's one of the reasons why people are so upset.
    Nationwide yes, in Ferguson alone no, it's mathematically impossible.

    Using Michael Brown as a poster child of "this is WHY we're mad" is pretty dumb because various evidence has shown that Darren Wilson was within his rights to shoot Michael Brown as Officer Wilson was assaulted just for trying to do his job.

    No I'm not a huge fan of cops nor of cops killing civilians, but there are some cases where I'm sure even the most bleeding heart liberal is thinking "That crook got what was coming to him". If you physically assault a policeman, you're going to get dealt with one way or another. Whether you're knocked out with a punch, sprayed with mace, or shot you WILL beat dealt with.

    Between October 2012 and October 2014, the Ferguson, Mo., police department reported making 11, 610 vehicle stops, according to a U.S. Justice Department report released Wednesday.

    Of those traffic stops, African Americans accounted for 85 %, or 9,875 , of those stops despite making up only 67% of Ferguson’s population. On the other hand, white individuals made up 15 %, or 1,735, of the stops during the same one-year period despite representing 29% of the population, according to the DOJ’s report titled “Investigation of the Ferguson Police Department.”

    The 102-page report noted that when a Ferguson cop stop African-American drivers, they are more likely to receive citations and to be subjected to searches of their vehicles.
    “Black people are significantly more likely to be searched during a traffic stop than whites people. From October 2012 to October 2014, 11% of stopped black drivers are searched, whereas only 5% of stopped white driver were searched,” DOJ reported.
    Although African Americans were searched at higher rates, they are 26% less likely to have contraband found on them than whites: 24 % of searches of African Americans resulted in contraband finding, whereas 30 % of searches of whites resulted in contraband findings.
    The DOJ reported that 91 %, or 8,987, of stopped black drivers received traffic citations compared to 87 % , or 1,501, of all stopped white drivers.
    The study noted that 891 of stopped black drivers—10% of all African-American drivers—were arrested as a result of the stop, whereas only 63 stopped white drivers—4% of all white drivers—were arrested.


    In Ferguson, Black Drivers Account for 85% of Traffic Stops
    Very Objective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Thanks for the link to absolutely nothing

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Thanks for the link to absolutely nothing
    All I saw was : Jon Stewart beautifully takes down Fox News over latest 'mainstream media conspiracy'



    With that kind of statement: I was expecting to see a video where they were in a MMA cage and he executed a move, avoiding the guard and causing a tapout. Instead all I got was

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    It's hard to take Jon Stewart's attacks on Fox News seriously when you take into consideration his political views and the political skew of The Daily Show which is no doubt to the left....unapologetically to the left. Stewart defines himself as "Socialist, or Independent", but oh well. His book is wrong as well, making several references to the "Democracy" .....we're not a Democracy, we're a Republic.

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