Ward v Froch - negotiations underway says Hearn

[erics44]

Ward schooled Froch.
Have you even seen the fight?

yep

if you call schooling winning 8-4 then he definately schooled him

still i dont know why people bum him, its not the sweet science and it isnt exciting, its just grappling, land a punch on the way in

yeah hes top at landing a punch then stopping his opponent punching

[Primo Carnera]

Ward schooled Froch.
Have you even seen the fight?

yep

if you call schooling winning 8-4 then he definately schooled him

still i dont know why people bum him, its not the sweet science and it isnt exciting, its just grappling, land a punch on the way in

yeah hes top at landing a punch then stopping his opponent punching

I'm not Bumming Ward, I don't really want to consider him till he fights again because he's too inactive. But in the Froch fight, all I can remember is Froch blocking punches all night long with his face and not having an answer to it, and then when he thought he would be stronger on the inside, Ward outstrengthed him as well. Just how Virgil Hunter said he would before the fight.
It's not cos I think Ward is some superhero, more the fact that Froch is overrated as a boxer really.
Froch does have some good points in his defence , Granite chin, perfect fitness and conditioning for that weight ,but technically he's pretty poor.
Finally , I do understand people saying Froch has a better chance because of Ward's inactivity, but let's not forget that Froch hasn't fought for a year and at 37 that can't be a positive.

[erics44]

Ward schooled Froch.
Have you even seen the fight?

yep

if you call schooling winning 8-4 then he definately schooled him

still i dont know why people bum him, its not the sweet science and it isnt exciting, its just grappling, land a punch on the way in

yeah hes top at landing a punch then stopping his opponent punching

I'm not Bumming Ward, I don't really want to consider him till he fights again because he's too inactive. But in the Froch fight, all I can remember is Froch blocking punches all night long with his face and not having an answer to it, and then when he thought he would be stronger on the inside, Ward outstrengthed him as well. Just how Virgil Hunter said he would before the fight.
It's not cos I think Ward is some superhero, more the fact that Froch is overrated as a boxer really.
Froch does have some good points in his defence , Granite chin, perfect fitness and conditioning for that weight ,but technically he's pretty poor.
Finally , I do understand people saying Froch has a better chance because of Ward's inactivity, but let's not forget that Froch hasn't fought for a year and at 37 that can't be a positive.

Froch cant be that poor techincally, hes beaten everyone he has fought appart from ward, all the top fighters in a strong division for the last so many years

you dont do that if youre poor technically

ward beat froch, but he didnt school him, he threw punches on the way in and then grappled so froch couldnt hit him back, its the way ward fights

yes hes very good at it and will be very hard to beat

[Primo Carnera]

Ward schooled Froch.
Have you even seen the fight?

yep

if you call schooling winning 8-4 then he definately schooled him

still i dont know why people bum him, its not the sweet science and it isnt exciting, its just grappling, land a punch on the way in

yeah hes top at landing a punch then stopping his opponent punching

I'm not Bumming Ward, I don't really want to consider him till he fights again because he's too inactive. But in the Froch fight, all I can remember is Froch blocking punches all night long with his face and not having an answer to it, and then when he thought he would be stronger on the inside, Ward outstrengthed him as well. Just how Virgil Hunter said he would before the fight.
It's not cos I think Ward is some superhero, more the fact that Froch is overrated as a boxer really.
Froch does have some good points in his defence , Granite chin, perfect fitness and conditioning for that weight ,but technically he's pretty poor.
Finally , I do understand people saying Froch has a better chance because of Ward's inactivity, but let's not forget that Froch hasn't fought for a year and at 37 that can't be a positive.

Froch cant be that poor techincally, hes beaten everyone he has fought appart from ward, all the top fighters in a strong division for the last so many years

you dont do that if youre poor technically

ward beat froch, but he didnt school him, he threw punches on the way in and then grappled so froch couldnt hit him back, its the way ward fights

yes hes very good at it and will be very hard to beat

1. it's not a strong division is it? when it was a strong division (super six) he got beat by Ward , he got beat by Kessler, arguably got outboxed by Dirrell and was losing on the scorecards against a blown up MW (Taylor)with 14 seconds to go . He was only in the final because Kessler was injured ffs.
he beat a raw Pascal , and another blown up MW at the time (Abraham) .btw , technically that was his best performance of the whole series I'll give him that.
he also got outboxed by Groves (who wasn't and isn't proven at World level) . the reason he beat these guys is not technical ability , it is his Heart, Conditioning and Chin.
I've always given him those attributes , but technically , he has a decent jab which he used very well in his last fight and that's it.
Watch again, because Ward Boxed Froch's face off. Every time he came forward , Ward plugged him straight on the nose, it was embarrassing. His face was like a beetroot after 2 rounds.

[erics44]

Ward schooled Froch.
Have you even seen the fight?

yep

if you call schooling winning 8-4 then he definately schooled him

still i dont know why people bum him, its not the sweet science and it isnt exciting, its just grappling, land a punch on the way in

yeah hes top at landing a punch then stopping his opponent punching

I'm not Bumming Ward, I don't really want to consider him till he fights again because he's too inactive. But in the Froch fight, all I can remember is Froch blocking punches all night long with his face and not having an answer to it, and then when he thought he would be stronger on the inside, Ward outstrengthed him as well. Just how Virgil Hunter said he would before the fight.
It's not cos I think Ward is some superhero, more the fact that Froch is overrated as a boxer really.
Froch does have some good points in his defence , Granite chin, perfect fitness and conditioning for that weight ,but technically he's pretty poor.
Finally , I do understand people saying Froch has a better chance because of Ward's inactivity, but let's not forget that Froch hasn't fought for a year and at 37 that can't be a positive.

Froch cant be that poor techincally, hes beaten everyone he has fought appart from ward, all the top fighters in a strong division for the last so many years

you dont do that if youre poor technically

ward beat froch, but he didnt school him, he threw punches on the way in and then grappled so froch couldnt hit him back, its the way ward fights

yes hes very good at it and will be very hard to beat

1. it's not a strong division is it? when it was a strong division (super six) he got beat by Ward , he got beat by Kessler, arguably got outboxed by Dirrell and was losing on the scorecards against a blown up MW (Taylor)with 14 seconds to go . He was only in the final because Kessler was injured ffs.
he beat a raw Pascal , and another blown up MW at the time (Abraham) .btw , technically that was his best performance of the whole series I'll give him that.
he also got outboxed by Groves (who wasn't and isn't proven at World level) . the reason he beat these guys is not technical ability , it is his Heart, Conditioning and Chin.
I've always given him those attributes , but technically , he has a decent jab which he used very well in his last fight and that's it.
Watch again, because Ward Boxed Froch's face off. Every time he came forward , Ward plugged him straight on the nose, it was embarrassing. His face was like a beetroot after 2 rounds.

how ever you look at it he beat taylor, dirrell, groves, abraham and kessler and all that wasnt just because of his chin and his fitness

everyone said abraham would beat him as well as bute

over the last few years the SMW division has been a strong division, how many divisions have been stronger over that time? name them

[Primo Carnera]

Ward schooled Froch.
Have you even seen the fight?

yep

if you call schooling winning 8-4 then he definately schooled him

still i dont know why people bum him, its not the sweet science and it isnt exciting, its just grappling, land a punch on the way in

yeah hes top at landing a punch then stopping his opponent punching

I'm not Bumming Ward, I don't really want to consider him till he fights again because he's too inactive. But in the Froch fight, all I can remember is Froch blocking punches all night long with his face and not having an answer to it, and then when he thought he would be stronger on the inside, Ward outstrengthed him as well. Just how Virgil Hunter said he would before the fight.
It's not cos I think Ward is some superhero, more the fact that Froch is overrated as a boxer really.
Froch does have some good points in his defence , Granite chin, perfect fitness and conditioning for that weight ,but technically he's pretty poor.
Finally , I do understand people saying Froch has a better chance because of Ward's inactivity, but let's not forget that Froch hasn't fought for a year and at 37 that can't be a positive.

Froch cant be that poor techincally, hes beaten everyone he has fought appart from ward, all the top fighters in a strong division for the last so many years

you dont do that if youre poor technically

ward beat froch, but he didnt school him, he threw punches on the way in and then grappled so froch couldnt hit him back, its the way ward fights

yes hes very good at it and will be very hard to beat

1. it's not a strong division is it? when it was a strong division (super six) he got beat by Ward , he got beat by Kessler, arguably got outboxed by Dirrell and was losing on the scorecards against a blown up MW (Taylor)with 14 seconds to go . He was only in the final because Kessler was injured ffs.
he beat a raw Pascal , and another blown up MW at the time (Abraham) .btw , technically that was his best performance of the whole series I'll give him that.
he also got outboxed by Groves (who wasn't and isn't proven at World level) . the reason he beat these guys is not technical ability , it is his Heart, Conditioning and Chin.
I've always given him those attributes , but technically , he has a decent jab which he used very well in his last fight and that's it.
Watch again, because Ward Boxed Froch's face off. Every time he came forward , Ward plugged him straight on the nose, it was embarrassing. His face was like a beetroot after 2 rounds.

how ever you look at it he beat taylor, dirrell, groves, abraham and kessler and all that wasnt just because of his chin and his fitness

everyone said abraham would beat him as well as bute

over the last few years the SMW division has been a strong division, how many divisions have been stronger over that time? name them

Come on , for fucks sake.
1.It was because of his chin and fitness.
2. Who said Abraham would beat him? He'd done fuck all at SMW. Bute ,I'll give you that ,people (me included) thought Bute would beat him. But we saw what Bute was about that night. I admit , I got that one wrong.
3. Welterweight, light Welter, Light Middle, Middle , super featherweight, super bantamweight, have all been stronger than SMW. I thinK you're a bit confused, this isn't the era of Benn, Eubank,Collins, Toney, RJJ, McClelland and McCallum. This is :
Ward - hasn't fought for 2 1/2 years
Froch - hasn't fought for a year
Abraham - blown up MW
Dirrell - beat Sakio Bika ..... And that's it'!!!!
The other Dirrell - had 6 fights in 6 years against nobodies
Kessler - his best days were when Calzaghe beat him. Downhill after that.
Degale - has beat nobody yet - unproven
Groves - has beat Degale and nobody else.- unproven
Stieglitz - do me a fuckin favour
Paul Smith - has had 2 World title shots despite being knocked out twice at British level.
Yeah, this is really the ELITE division!

[Primo Carnera]

BBC Sport - Carl Froch: WBA champion to pursue acting career
Read this and tell me he's interested in fighting Ward! I said that Eddie Hearnwas talking shite!

[erics44]

Ward schooled Froch.
Have you even seen the fight?

yep

if you call schooling winning 8-4 then he definately schooled him

still i dont know why people bum him, its not the sweet science and it isnt exciting, its just grappling, land a punch on the way in

yeah hes top at landing a punch then stopping his opponent punching

I'm not Bumming Ward, I don't really want to consider him till he fights again because he's too inactive. But in the Froch fight, all I can remember is Froch blocking punches all night long with his face and not having an answer to it, and then when he thought he would be stronger on the inside, Ward outstrengthed him as well. Just how Virgil Hunter said he would before the fight.
It's not cos I think Ward is some superhero, more the fact that Froch is overrated as a boxer really.
Froch does have some good points in his defence , Granite chin, perfect fitness and conditioning for that weight ,but technically he's pretty poor.
Finally , I do understand people saying Froch has a better chance because of Ward's inactivity, but let's not forget that Froch hasn't fought for a year and at 37 that can't be a positive.

Froch cant be that poor techincally, hes beaten everyone he has fought appart from ward, all the top fighters in a strong division for the last so many years

you dont do that if youre poor technically

ward beat froch, but he didnt school him, he threw punches on the way in and then grappled so froch couldnt hit him back, its the way ward fights

yes hes very good at it and will be very hard to beat

1. it's not a strong division is it? when it was a strong division (super six) he got beat by Ward , he got beat by Kessler, arguably got outboxed by Dirrell and was losing on the scorecards against a blown up MW (Taylor)with 14 seconds to go . He was only in the final because Kessler was injured ffs.
he beat a raw Pascal , and another blown up MW at the time (Abraham) .btw , technically that was his best performance of the whole series I'll give him that.
he also got outboxed by Groves (who wasn't and isn't proven at World level) . the reason he beat these guys is not technical ability , it is his Heart, Conditioning and Chin.
I've always given him those attributes , but technically , he has a decent jab which he used very well in his last fight and that's it.
Watch again, because Ward Boxed Froch's face off. Every time he came forward , Ward plugged him straight on the nose, it was embarrassing. His face was like a beetroot after 2 rounds.

how ever you look at it he beat taylor, dirrell, groves, abraham and kessler and all that wasnt just because of his chin and his fitness

everyone said abraham would beat him as well as bute

over the last few years the SMW division has been a strong division, how many divisions have been stronger over that time? name them

Come on , for fucks sake.
1.It was because of his chin and fitness.
2. Who said Abraham would beat him? He'd done fuck all at SMW. Bute ,I'll give you that ,people (me included) thought Bute would beat him. But we saw what Bute was about that night. I admit , I got that one wrong.
3. Welterweight, light Welter, Light Middle, Middle , super featherweight, super bantamweight, have all been stronger than SMW. I thinK you're a bit confused, this isn't the era of Benn, Eubank,Collins, Toney, RJJ, McClelland and McCallum. This is :
Ward - hasn't fought for 2 1/2 years
Froch - hasn't fought for a year
Abraham - blown up MW
Dirrell - beat Sakio Bika ..... And that's it'!!!!
The other Dirrell - had 6 fights in 6 years against nobodies
Kessler - his best days were when Calzaghe beat him. Downhill after that.
Degale - has beat nobody yet - unproven
Groves - has beat Degale and nobody else.- unproven
Stieglitz - do me a fuckin favour
Paul Smith - has had 2 World title shots despite being knocked out twice at British level.
Yeah, this is really the ELITE division!

You have it all worked out don't you

All those rubbish fighters, none of them fought anyone

Super middles are rubbish coz of Paul smith, that's a fact isn't it?

All of those divisions better than super middle, what a wealth of talent there's been in the middleweight division, and the light welter, all those top fighters fighting each other


Joking aside tho, I'd say over 90% of posters on here said Abraham would beat froch

[imp]

Come on guys.

Put yourself in froch shoes.

Do you really think he would want to end his career on another loss?

He wants to retire or take up acting and he even admitted he wants a major money fight in Vegas.!

Why do you think everyone wants Chavez jr?

Froch has decided he has done enough in the sport of boxing and even though he was getting outboxed by groves..he came back at the end of the fight like always in the first fight, and knocked him out in the rematch.

JC never took on young buck like groves towards the end of his career but Froch has proven he will fight anyone anywhere!

Ward beats all eras of Froch and its a shame but that really is a fact.

[smashup]

I heard about Froch being in a movie and reckon he might actually do well at it 😉