#foxnewsfacts

[Master]

Democracy = Republic. Same thing.

[El Kabong]

Democracy = Republic. Same thing.

Sure it does, of course it does, I mean what was I thinking?

Article IV Section 4, of the Constitution "The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion",

Pledge of Allegiance "to the Republic for which it stands"

...but you were saying?

[Master]

Democracy = Republic. Same thing.

Sure it does, of course it does, I mean what was I thinking?

Article IV Section 4, of the Constitution "The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion",

Pledge of Allegiance "to the Republic for which it stands"

...but you were saying?

Words, articles and constitutions still the same thing.

[El Kabong]

Democracy = Republic. Same thing.

Sure it does, of course it does, I mean what was I thinking?

Article IV Section 4, of the Constitution "The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion",

Pledge of Allegiance "to the Republic for which it stands"

...but you were saying?

Words, articles and constitutions still the same thing.

Exactly, just like Baseball and Cricket are the same thing

[Master]

Democracy = Republic. Same thing.

Sure it does, of course it does, I mean what was I thinking?

Article IV Section 4, of the Constitution "The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion",

Pledge of Allegiance "to the Republic for which it stands"

...but you were saying?

Words, articles and constitutions still the same thing.

Exactly, just like Baseball and Cricket are the same thing

Hitting a ball with a bat. Yes.

[SlimTrae]

Democracy = Republic. Same thing.

Sure it does, of course it does, I mean what was I thinking?

Article IV Section 4, of the Constitution "The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion",

Pledge of Allegiance "to the Republic for which it stands"

...but you were saying?

Words, articles and constitutions still the same thing.

Exactly, just like Baseball and Cricket are the same thing

Hitting a ball with a bat. Yes.

That's funny.

[El Kabong]

Yes. It's a democratic thing to vote for example and as citizens we all participate in that if we so choose, but our system of government is a Constitutional Republic.

Splitting hairs but it's important to distinguish between the two

[SlimTrae]

Yes. It's a democratic thing to vote for example and as citizens we all participate in that if we so choose, but our system of government is a Constitutional Republic.

Splitting hairs but it's important to distinguish between the two

No problem.

Our Government is a Constitutional Republic that votes- which is a democratic thing , not a Republican thing (to vote).

Ok, Got it!

[El Kabong]

Yes. It's a democratic thing to vote for example and as citizens we all participate in that if we so choose, but our system of government is a Constitutional Republic.

Splitting hairs but it's important to distinguish between the two

No problem.

Our Government is a Constitutional Republic that votes- which is a democratic thing , not a Republican thing (to vote).

Ok, Got it!

It is a democratic action to vote ok? By voting you are practicing democracy.


HOWEVER


The Democratic system of government is 1 person, 1 vote, per issue. Meaning that 51% of the people RULE 49% of the people (or a plurality might be able to rule given a certain breakdown of the percentages). A pure Democracy is nothing more than mob rule, if 51% of the people said "Fuck The Constitution" then it would be so, if 51% of the people said "SlimTrae's car should be confiscated and used as a government taxi" it would be so.



In a Constitutional Republic, which we in the United States have elected representatives vote on most issues. These representatives are sworn to uphold the Constitution as the rule and guide to governing their constituents. The Constitution protects land rights, minority rights (voting minorities and ethnic/religious/etc minorities), in hopes to keep the government of this nation from becoming oppressive. That said the more we stray from The Constitution the vulnerable we as citizens become to an oppressive government. We've not been perfect in the past and we won't be perfect in the future, but the closer we are to the founding document of this nation the better off we will all be.



but that's just my take.

[SlimTrae]

Depending on timeframe. 1820's the constitution wasnt amended to what it became 1880's. So much of what you say- didnt come by standing fast with the constitution- but to challenge that it needed to be amended. Amendment 4,5,6 etc.

It is an everchanging document based on the culture of the people. As stated at one time the (mob rule) as you stated felt that there needed to be a 3/5th rule for those who were considered slaves.

Another time it wasnt amended to allow women to vote.

Also you accurately stated: In a Constitutional Republic, which we in the United States have elected representatives vote on most issues

Such as the issues relating to the Federal Coummunication Commisision , we don't vote. SO no mob rule there. Executive orders which should have been or at least could have been done away with after Lincoln, but it seems these orders are only welcomed by partisanship. Nothing Democratic about that.

But I admit I am not sure of how you've structured the last two paragraphs-
The Democratic system of government
In a Constitutional Republic,

1st paragraph I gather you are defining who votes
2nd paragraph I gather you are defining who is elected by way of those votes.

So I am not sure how to relate those two as you begin it with : HOWEVER. I am expecting a comparison to come, rather I see two different subjects that dont fit (however).

Ending example when you state: The Constitution protects land , rights...
See to me that depends on the era- generation as Henry Berry stated the Constitution should protect property- to which he argued that slaves were property- He was so effective at arguing it- that the constitution upheld his argument in the Senate.
Those who disagreed, were called evil. By title these evil doers seeking to do away with the constitution because they were for abolition.
Abolishing slavery which produced a great American product: a slave.

So the constitution or the Articles of Confederation. both documents that don't seem to prove or disprove that when one votes- regardless of the piece of paper that rules their thinking- is as you stated: A democratic thing. I just wanted to make sure it wasnt going to change to a Republican thing. Rather a Republic, that practices a Democracy (voting process 1 per person).

[SlimTrae]

I guess I'm posing more of a question than stating a fact. I thought we were (A) Republic that practices Democracy.