Muslims go Crazy during anti-islamic movie in Sweden

[walrus]

Edition / Manuscript Passage on execution
(Sanhedrin 43 a-b) Passage on punishment in afterlife
(b Gittin 57a) Passage on disciples
(Sanhedrin 43 a-b)
Herzog 1 on the eve of Passover they hanged Jesus son of Pandera
Herzog 2 Jesus the Nazarene had five disciples
Vatican 130 he went and brought up Jesus the Nazarene
Vatican 140 he went and brought up the imposter of Jesus
Munich 95 on the eve of Passover they hanged [name erased] he went and brought up Jesus [text erased]
Firenze II.1.8–9 on Sabbath even and the eve of Passover they hanged Jesus ben Stada Jesus the Nazarene had five disciples
Karlsruhe 2 on the eve of Passover they hanged Jesus the Nazarene Jesus the Nazarene had five disciples
Barco on the eve of Passover they hanged [not legible] [not legible] had five disciples
Soncino on the eve of Passover they hanged [not legible] he went and brought up [name missing]
Vilna [whole passage deleted by censor] he went and brought up the sinners of Israel [whole passage deleted by censor]

I don't get it Brock, are you saying I'm wrong. Do I need to post official Roman accounts of there dealings with Jesus or the writings of Josephus. No matter how you slice it Jesus existed. Are you saying he didn't, I'm just trying to determine where you are coming from, your personal belief.

[brocktonblockbust]

Edition / Manuscript Passage on execution
(Sanhedrin 43 a-b) Passage on punishment in afterlife
(b Gittin 57a) Passage on disciples
(Sanhedrin 43 a-b)
Herzog 1 on the eve of Passover they hanged Jesus son of Pandera
Herzog 2 Jesus the Nazarene had five disciples
Vatican 130 he went and brought up Jesus the Nazarene
Vatican 140 he went and brought up the imposter of Jesus
Munich 95 on the eve of Passover they hanged [name erased] he went and brought up Jesus [text erased]
Firenze II.1.8–9 on Sabbath even and the eve of Passover they hanged Jesus ben Stada Jesus the Nazarene had five disciples
Karlsruhe 2 on the eve of Passover they hanged Jesus the Nazarene Jesus the Nazarene had five disciples
Barco on the eve of Passover they hanged [not legible] [not legible] had five disciples
Soncino on the eve of Passover they hanged [not legible] he went and brought up [name missing]
Vilna [whole passage deleted by censor] he went and brought up the sinners of Israel [whole passage deleted by censor]

I don't get it Brock, are you saying I'm wrong. Do I need to post official Roman accounts of there dealings with Jesus or the writings of Josephus. No matter how you slice it Jesus existed. Are you saying he didn't, I'm just trying to determine where you are coming from, your personal belief.

1st of all Walrus there is no right or wrong, so no I would never say you were wrong.

2nd of all I believe there was more than 1 man named yeshua who went doing charismatic/political/miraculous stuff at that same time.

3rd of all I believe the Jesus of the Gospel is an amalgamation of the 2/3 Yeshuas, the things attributable to the 1 Jesus of the Gospels were really performed by several Yeshuas, and it all morphed into one historical person. I believe the Yeshua of the Gospel existed in duplicate or even triplicate.

[El Kabong]

How did we get on Christians during a thread about Islam?

Always people with the "Did Jesus exist"/"Jesus didn't even exist" stuff.....well if we're asking/proclaiming that then how's about: Moses? Muhammad? Siddhārtha Gautama? Zoroaster?

Why are the questions aimed at Christianity ONLY aimed at Christianity? And believe me, in the United States they are ONLY asked of Christianity.

and just to open a different can of worms...

[walrus]

Edition / Manuscript Passage on execution
(Sanhedrin 43 a-b) Passage on punishment in afterlife
(b Gittin 57a) Passage on disciples
(Sanhedrin 43 a-b)
Herzog 1 on the eve of Passover they hanged Jesus son of Pandera
Herzog 2 Jesus the Nazarene had five disciples
Vatican 130 he went and brought up Jesus the Nazarene
Vatican 140 he went and brought up the imposter of Jesus
Munich 95 on the eve of Passover they hanged [name erased] he went and brought up Jesus [text erased]
Firenze II.1.8–9 on Sabbath even and the eve of Passover they hanged Jesus ben Stada Jesus the Nazarene had five disciples
Karlsruhe 2 on the eve of Passover they hanged Jesus the Nazarene Jesus the Nazarene had five disciples
Barco on the eve of Passover they hanged [not legible] [not legible] had five disciples
Soncino on the eve of Passover they hanged [not legible] he went and brought up [name missing]
Vilna [whole passage deleted by censor] he went and brought up the sinners of Israel [whole passage deleted by censor]

I don't get it Brock, are you saying I'm wrong. Do I need to post official Roman accounts of there dealings with Jesus or the writings of Josephus. No matter how you slice it Jesus existed. Are you saying he didn't, I'm just trying to determine where you are coming from, your personal belief.

1st of all Walrus there is no right or wrong, so no I would never say you were wrong.

2nd of all I believe there was more than 1 man named yeshua who went doing charismatic/political/miraculous stuff at that same time.

3rd of all I believe the Jesus of the Gospel is an amalgamation of the 2/3 Yeshuas, the things attributable to the 1 Jesus of the Gospels were really performed by several Yeshuas, and it all morphed into one historical person. I believe the Yeshua of the Gospel existed in duplicate or even triplicate.

Well, in this case I can say with one hundred percent accuracy that you are wrong, we do both share a common belief in miles so I guess we remain friends.

[brocktonblockbust]

Edition / Manuscript Passage on execution
(Sanhedrin 43 a-b) Passage on punishment in afterlife
(b Gittin 57a) Passage on disciples
(Sanhedrin 43 a-b)
Herzog 1 on the eve of Passover they hanged Jesus son of Pandera
Herzog 2 Jesus the Nazarene had five disciples
Vatican 130 he went and brought up Jesus the Nazarene
Vatican 140 he went and brought up the imposter of Jesus
Munich 95 on the eve of Passover they hanged [name erased] he went and brought up Jesus [text erased]
Firenze II.1.8–9 on Sabbath even and the eve of Passover they hanged Jesus ben Stada Jesus the Nazarene had five disciples
Karlsruhe 2 on the eve of Passover they hanged Jesus the Nazarene Jesus the Nazarene had five disciples
Barco on the eve of Passover they hanged [not legible] [not legible] had five disciples
Soncino on the eve of Passover they hanged [not legible] he went and brought up [name missing]
Vilna [whole passage deleted by censor] he went and brought up the sinners of Israel [whole passage deleted by censor]

I don't get it Brock, are you saying I'm wrong. Do I need to post official Roman accounts of there dealings with Jesus or the writings of Josephus. No matter how you slice it Jesus existed. Are you saying he didn't, I'm just trying to determine where you are coming from, your personal belief.

1st of all Walrus there is no right or wrong, so no I would never say you were wrong.

2nd of all I believe there was more than 1 man named yeshua who went doing charismatic/political/miraculous stuff at that same time.

3rd of all I believe the Jesus of the Gospel is an amalgamation of the 2/3 Yeshuas, the things attributable to the 1 Jesus of the Gospels were really performed by several Yeshuas, and it all morphed into one historical person. I believe the Yeshua of the Gospel existed in duplicate or even triplicate.

Well, in this case I can say with one hundred percent accuracy that you are wrong, we do both share a common belief in miles so I guess we remain friends.

why would this even effect our friendship? You can believe anything you want. We are all free

[walrus]

Edition / Manuscript Passage on execution
(Sanhedrin 43 a-b) Passage on punishment in afterlife
(b Gittin 57a) Passage on disciples
(Sanhedrin 43 a-b)
Herzog 1 on the eve of Passover they hanged Jesus son of Pandera
Herzog 2 Jesus the Nazarene had five disciples
Vatican 130 he went and brought up Jesus the Nazarene
Vatican 140 he went and brought up the imposter of Jesus
Munich 95 on the eve of Passover they hanged [name erased] he went and brought up Jesus [text erased]
Firenze II.1.8–9 on Sabbath even and the eve of Passover they hanged Jesus ben Stada Jesus the Nazarene had five disciples
Karlsruhe 2 on the eve of Passover they hanged Jesus the Nazarene Jesus the Nazarene had five disciples
Barco on the eve of Passover they hanged [not legible] [not legible] had five disciples
Soncino on the eve of Passover they hanged [not legible] he went and brought up [name missing]
Vilna [whole passage deleted by censor] he went and brought up the sinners of Israel [whole passage deleted by censor]

I don't get it Brock, are you saying I'm wrong. Do I need to post official Roman accounts of there dealings with Jesus or the writings of Josephus. No matter how you slice it Jesus existed. Are you saying he didn't, I'm just trying to determine where you are coming from, your personal belief.

1st of all Walrus there is no right or wrong, so no I would never say you were wrong.

2nd of all I believe there was more than 1 man named yeshua who went doing charismatic/political/miraculous stuff at that same time.

3rd of all I believe the Jesus of the Gospel is an amalgamation of the 2/3 Yeshuas, the things attributable to the 1 Jesus of the Gospels were really performed by several Yeshuas, and it all morphed into one historical person. I believe the Yeshua of the Gospel existed in duplicate or even triplicate.

Well, in this case I can say with one hundred percent accuracy that you are wrong, we do both share a common belief in miles so I guess we remain friends.

why would this even effect our friendship? You can believe anything you want. We are all free

Actually, I'm starting to doubt the existence of Miles.

[brocktonblockbust]

Edition / Manuscript Passage on execution
(Sanhedrin 43 a-b) Passage on punishment in afterlife
(b Gittin 57a) Passage on disciples
(Sanhedrin 43 a-b)
Herzog 1 on the eve of Passover they hanged Jesus son of Pandera
Herzog 2 Jesus the Nazarene had five disciples
Vatican 130 he went and brought up Jesus the Nazarene
Vatican 140 he went and brought up the imposter of Jesus
Munich 95 on the eve of Passover they hanged [name erased] he went and brought up Jesus [text erased]
Firenze II.1.8–9 on Sabbath even and the eve of Passover they hanged Jesus ben Stada Jesus the Nazarene had five disciples
Karlsruhe 2 on the eve of Passover they hanged Jesus the Nazarene Jesus the Nazarene had five disciples
Barco on the eve of Passover they hanged [not legible] [not legible] had five disciples
Soncino on the eve of Passover they hanged [not legible] he went and brought up [name missing]
Vilna [whole passage deleted by censor] he went and brought up the sinners of Israel [whole passage deleted by censor]

I don't get it Brock, are you saying I'm wrong. Do I need to post official Roman accounts of there dealings with Jesus or the writings of Josephus. No matter how you slice it Jesus existed. Are you saying he didn't, I'm just trying to determine where you are coming from, your personal belief.

1st of all Walrus there is no right or wrong, so no I would never say you were wrong.

2nd of all I believe there was more than 1 man named yeshua who went doing charismatic/political/miraculous stuff at that same time.

3rd of all I believe the Jesus of the Gospel is an amalgamation of the 2/3 Yeshuas, the things attributable to the 1 Jesus of the Gospels were really performed by several Yeshuas, and it all morphed into one historical person. I believe the Yeshua of the Gospel existed in duplicate or even triplicate.

Well, in this case I can say with one hundred percent accuracy that you are wrong, we do both share a common belief in miles so I guess we remain friends.

why would this even effect our friendship? You can believe anything you want. We are all free

Actually, I'm starting to doubt the existence of Miles.

I went thru a 4 month period back in 2012 where I believed Greenbeanz and Miles were the same poster, it freaked me out. I still wonder about that---could you imagine that??

[Andre]

Edition / Manuscript Passage on execution
(Sanhedrin 43 a-b) Passage on punishment in afterlife
(b Gittin 57a) Passage on disciples
(Sanhedrin 43 a-b)
Herzog 1 on the eve of Passover they hanged Jesus son of Pandera
Herzog 2 Jesus the Nazarene had five disciples
Vatican 130 he went and brought up Jesus the Nazarene
Vatican 140 he went and brought up the imposter of Jesus
Munich 95 on the eve of Passover they hanged [name erased] he went and brought up Jesus [text erased]
Firenze II.1.8–9 on Sabbath even and the eve of Passover they hanged Jesus ben Stada Jesus the Nazarene had five disciples
Karlsruhe 2 on the eve of Passover they hanged Jesus the Nazarene Jesus the Nazarene had five disciples
Barco on the eve of Passover they hanged [not legible] [not legible] had five disciples
Soncino on the eve of Passover they hanged [not legible] he went and brought up [name missing]
Vilna [whole passage deleted by censor] he went and brought up the sinners of Israel [whole passage deleted by censor]

I don't get it Brock, are you saying I'm wrong. Do I need to post official Roman accounts of there dealings with Jesus or the writings of Josephus. No matter how you slice it Jesus existed. Are you saying he didn't, I'm just trying to determine where you are coming from, your personal belief.

Cheers mate. I would thanks. Considering the Romans documented everything; I would love to see their documents on Yeshuas execution.

[walrus]

Edition / Manuscript Passage on execution
(Sanhedrin 43 a-b) Passage on punishment in afterlife
(b Gittin 57a) Passage on disciples
(Sanhedrin 43 a-b)
Herzog 1 on the eve of Passover they hanged Jesus son of Pandera
Herzog 2 Jesus the Nazarene had five disciples
Vatican 130 he went and brought up Jesus the Nazarene
Vatican 140 he went and brought up the imposter of Jesus
Munich 95 on the eve of Passover they hanged [name erased] he went and brought up Jesus [text erased]
Firenze II.1.8–9 on Sabbath even and the eve of Passover they hanged Jesus ben Stada Jesus the Nazarene had five disciples
Karlsruhe 2 on the eve of Passover they hanged Jesus the Nazarene Jesus the Nazarene had five disciples
Barco on the eve of Passover they hanged [not legible] [not legible] had five disciples
Soncino on the eve of Passover they hanged [not legible] he went and brought up [name missing]
Vilna [whole passage deleted by censor] he went and brought up the sinners of Israel [whole passage deleted by censor]

I don't get it Brock, are you saying I'm wrong. Do I need to post official Roman accounts of there dealings with Jesus or the writings of Josephus. No matter how you slice it Jesus existed. Are you saying he didn't, I'm just trying to determine where you are coming from, your personal belief.

Cheers mate. I would thanks. Considering the Romans documented everything; I would love to see their documents on Yeshuas execution.

Cheers to you as well. As a start look up Tacitust on Christ.

[walrus]

@Andre you can also check out Suetonius, Pliny the younger, Tallus, Phlegon, Mara Bar Serapion and Josephus Ben Mattathias.

[Andre]

@Andre you can also check out Suetonius, Pliny the younger, Tallus, Phlegon, Mara Bar Serapion and Josephus Ben Mattathias.

I was wondering if there maybe an actually Roman army record of it written down, like the name date reason etc?

[walrus]

@Andre you can also check out Suetonius, Pliny the younger, Tallus, Phlegon, Mara Bar Serapion and Josephus Ben Mattathias.

I was wondering if there maybe an actually Roman army record of it written down, like the name date reason etc?

The only reason Pilot's name comes up in Rome's historical documents is his being in office when Christ was killed.

[Memphis]

Sweden is apparently the rape capital of the West. It's no surprise certain types would want to live there.


People kick off watching a film designed to make people kick off. Stunned!

[Andre]

@Andre you can also check out Suetonius, Pliny the younger, Tallus, Phlegon, Mara Bar Serapion and Josephus Ben Mattathias.

I was wondering if there maybe an actually Roman army record of it written down, like the name date reason etc?

The only reason Pilot's name comes up in Rome's historical documents is his being in office when Christ was killed.

No im not wondering about Pilots name being documented, Im wondering if you can find Yeshuas name documented as an execution by the garrison that did it,court papers or something.