Who do you WANT to WIN? Manny or Floyd?

[pacfan]

Julius Rain Rocks!

...but all joking aside.

How can a true fan of the sport support a drugs cheat who has put the lives of other fighters at risk for years?!

Yeah, and ruthless rocco really isn't a bad guy but he has an insane twitch about Manny. Damn, I don't like Floyd but I respect his fighting ability. He is a true artist, even with Tyson one of my favorite things about him was when his defense was at its best, he was so good it was almost funny. I think Tysons defense was more entertaining than Floyd but Floyd is one of the greatest defensive fighters to ever step in the ring. Floyd senior is even a bigger prick but he hammered that defense into Floyd and did an excellent job. That is one reason I give Floyd the edge in this fight, yes, I am a pactard saying that but Floyd has much less wear and tear throughout his career. Manny at his best was an amazing thing to watch. Sports illustrated did a special about him a few years ago and at that time he was rated the best athlete period. It was a very interesting article, I wish I could find it but I read it in a waiting room when I was seeing the doctor for my penis enlargement.

I know this fight is not going to be what it could have been, I don't care who's fault it was, it's just a shame the fans were denied two of the top fighters in history fighting in there prime. Doesn't mean this won't be good, I'm looking forward to it. Manny needs to bang, close rounds go to Floyd in his house.
Although I said Floyd has an edge in this fight I still think Manny has a very good shot at winning, he could win but lose but being boxing it's possible that could even happen to Floyd. I've been holding off joining in on these threads, I've just been observing but now I'm ready. I took the day after the fight off has I'll either be very happy or bummed out. OMG, would you imagine a draw, that would be nuts, Manny may hold back bringing the fight to a draw and then beat Floyd senseless in the second fight. Brilliant, manny you are brilliant. So rocco, we know your feelings about Manny. But I do believe you respect his boxing, I know you'll come back with peds blah blah blah but it would be great if you could just discuss the fight betwixt two great fighters,you know I dropped the Floyd ped thing when it was found he was hooking up with Manny Rameriz the red Sox player. I dropped it and will not bring it up again. If someone never tested positive screw it, I will not judge them.

Ya, rocky, you've been acting more like a paranoiac narcotics agent than a boxing expert. Hope you'll show more of your boxing knowledge than your expertise in detecting a ped user. If not, this is where you should be posting:

http://www.jpeds.com

[walrus]

Julius Rain Rocks!

...but all joking aside.

How can a true fan of the sport support a drugs cheat who has put the lives of other fighters at risk for years?!

Yeah, and ruthless rocco really isn't a bad guy but he has an insane twitch about Manny. Damn, I don't like Floyd but I respect his fighting ability. He is a true artist, even with Tyson one of my favorite things about him was when his defense was at its best, he was so good it was almost funny. I think Tysons defense was more entertaining than Floyd but Floyd is one of the greatest defensive fighters to ever step in the ring. Floyd senior is even a bigger prick but he hammered that defense into Floyd and did an excellent job. That is one reason I give Floyd the edge in this fight, yes, I am a pactard saying that but Floyd has much less wear and tear throughout his career. Manny at his best was an amazing thing to watch. Sports illustrated did a special about him a few years ago and at that time he was rated the best athlete period. It was a very interesting article, I wish I could find it but I read it in a waiting room when I was seeing the doctor for my penis enlargement.

I know this fight is not going to be what it could have been, I don't care who's fault it was, it's just a shame the fans were denied two of the top fighters in history fighting in there prime. Doesn't mean this won't be good, I'm looking forward to it. Manny needs to bang, close rounds go to Floyd in his house.
Although I said Floyd has an edge in this fight I still think Manny has a very good shot at winning, he could win but lose but being boxing it's possible that could even happen to Floyd. I've been holding off joining in on these threads, I've just been observing but now I'm ready. I took the day after the fight off has I'll either be very happy or bummed out. OMG, would you imagine a draw, that would be nuts, Manny may hold back bringing the fight to a draw and then beat Floyd senseless in the second fight. Brilliant, manny you are brilliant. So rocco, we know your feelings about Manny. But I do believe you respect his boxing, I know you'll come back with peds blah blah blah but it would be great if you could just discuss the fight betwixt two great fighters,you know I dropped the Floyd ped thing when it was found he was hooking up with Manny Rameriz the red Sox player. I dropped it and will not bring it up again. If someone never tested positive screw it, I will not judge them.

Ya, rocky, you've been acting more like a paranoiac narcotics agent than a boxing expert. Hope you'll show more of your boxing knowledge than your expertise in detecting a ped user. If not, this is where you should be posting:

http://www.jpeds.com

@pacfan always good to hear from you. I know a while ago you were speaking of a tragedy that took place in your country, hope things are getting better. I have a few questions for you if you have the inclination to answer

1- will the fight be shown for free in your country
2- the American press often talks about Mannys charitable works in your country, can you provide any details as to what exactly he does, is it known what kind of money he donates, I have read he is generous to a fault.
3- we are all aware Manny holds political office in your country, his wife as well I believe. Is he a good politician, has he produced any legislation which was of benefit to your country. Anything else he has done while in office that helped the country.

4- has Manny gone back to Catholicism yet or is he still evangelical. I would feel a lot better about the fight if I knew Manny was Catholic again.

Hope I didn't blind side you with all these questions, just things me and other pactards have been talking about but we have yet to find in-depth answers from someone like you, a citizen

[pacfan]

Julius Rain Rocks!

...but all joking aside.

How can a true fan of the sport support a drugs cheat who has put the lives of other fighters at risk for years?!

Yeah, and ruthless rocco really isn't a bad guy but he has an insane twitch about Manny. Damn, I don't like Floyd but I respect his fighting ability. He is a true artist, even with Tyson one of my favorite things about him was when his defense was at its best, he was so good it was almost funny. I think Tysons defense was more entertaining than Floyd but Floyd is one of the greatest defensive fighters to ever step in the ring. Floyd senior is even a bigger prick but he hammered that defense into Floyd and did an excellent job. That is one reason I give Floyd the edge in this fight, yes, I am a pactard saying that but Floyd has much less wear and tear throughout his career. Manny at his best was an amazing thing to watch. Sports illustrated did a special about him a few years ago and at that time he was rated the best athlete period. It was a very interesting article, I wish I could find it but I read it in a waiting room when I was seeing the doctor for my penis enlargement.

I know this fight is not going to be what it could have been, I don't care who's fault it was, it's just a shame the fans were denied two of the top fighters in history fighting in there prime. Doesn't mean this won't be good, I'm looking forward to it. Manny needs to bang, close rounds go to Floyd in his house.
Although I said Floyd has an edge in this fight I still think Manny has a very good shot at winning, he could win but lose but being boxing it's possible that could even happen to Floyd. I've been holding off joining in on these threads, I've just been observing but now I'm ready. I took the day after the fight off has I'll either be very happy or bummed out. OMG, would you imagine a draw, that would be nuts, Manny may hold back bringing the fight to a draw and then beat Floyd senseless in the second fight. Brilliant, manny you are brilliant. So rocco, we know your feelings about Manny. But I do believe you respect his boxing, I know you'll come back with peds blah blah blah but it would be great if you could just discuss the fight betwixt two great fighters,you know I dropped the Floyd ped thing when it was found he was hooking up with Manny Rameriz the red Sox player. I dropped it and will not bring it up again. If someone never tested positive screw it, I will not judge them.

Ya, rocky, you've been acting more like a paranoiac narcotics agent than a boxing expert. Hope you'll show more of your boxing knowledge than your expertise in detecting a ped user. If not, this is where you should be posting:

http://www.jpeds.com

@pacfan always good to hear from you. I know a while ago you were speaking of a tragedy that took place in your country, hope things are getting better. I have a few questions for you if you have the inclination to answer

1- will the fight be shown for free in your country
2- the American press often talks about Mannys charitable works in your country, can you provide any details as to what exactly he does, is it known what kind of money he donates, I have read he is generous to a fault.
3- we are all aware Manny holds political office in your country, his wife as well I believe. Is he a good politician, has he produced any legislation which was of benefit to your country. Anything else he has done while in office that helped the country.

4- has Manny gone back to Catholicism yet or is he still evangelical. I would feel a lot better about the fight if I knew Manny was Catholic again.

Hope I didn't blind side you with all these questions, just things me and other pactards have been talking about but we have yet to find in-depth answers from someone like you, a citizen

No problem, bud, @walrus, I'll try my best to answer your questions.

1. Yes, it will be shown free...but...with tons of commercial in-between rounds so the telecast is delayed by about 2-3 hours. Commercials on main events usually lasts about 5 mins per round so the whole fight can last up to 2 hours. There's also PPV on cables here and the price has been set at about 2,500 pesos, which is about $60, pretty stiff for most folks here.

2. The local media outlets don't cover much of Manny's 'other' activities but when disasters like typhoons strikes the country, Manny has often been caught on local news distributing goods and cashes to the victims.

3. Politics. No doubt Pac is considered a hero in the country but some of his 'other' activities including politics, singing and acting are just been tolerated by people here. Sometimes they are treated as butt of jokes but not in a disrespectful manner most of the time. Politically, he is known here as an absentee congressman. Many people here think he's just been led on and used by some politicians taking advantage of his naivete. No doubt someday he will be pushed to run for president by these sycophants.

4. Nope, even his devoutly Catholic mother failed to convince him to get back. For now, he's definitely a staunch evangelical Christian. I heard he's building an evangelical church somewhere around his hometown costing millions of dollars. Just like in politics, some people say he's just be led on by those evangelical preachers but I'd rather not go into that; all I can say is that they are very good talkers.

Just to give you an overview, in this country the people are divided in two groups: the intellectual elites which makes up about 20% and the rest who are called 'masa' or the masses who make up about 80% of the population. The intellectual elites are more critical, even regarding Pac, and these are the Filipinos you might have encountered all over the WWW posting in English or the so-called Taglish - mix of English and Tagalog. The masses are the ones whom you hardly hear from...but...they are the ones who control the politics here. They have the votes and they vote with their hearts, not minds and that's one major reason why this country has been in rut. What I'm trying to drive at here is that if Pac can maintain his popularity, it is not impossible that these masses will make him a president someday. No problem there except he will probably be used by some people for their selfish interest. But what the heck, I say, Pac for President!!!