Toney always had trouble with mobile boxers who maintained a consistently high pace like Nunn, Roy, Reggie Johnson and Montell Griffin to name a few. James also had issues with busy/volume guys with solid chins like Drake Thadzi, Dave Tiberi and Vassily Jirov.

Many of the posters on here think of the Ancient Hop who fought Cloud, Dawson, Calzaghe...etc. The guy who no longer had the big punch or stamina and relied on tricks and boxing intelligence to win decisions. The Hop we are discussing isn't that Hop, he's the Executioner who dominated Tito and displayed great movement, ATG boxing ability and ring generalship, and the killer instinct and ATG stamina to close the show.

Prime vs prime Hop is too mobile, has too good a chin, is too smart, too good of a ring general and too busy to lose to James. Hop lost to Roy while he was green and approaching his prime, but even that wasn't a blow out (he performed MUCH BETTER vs Roy than Toney did). Toney puts up a good fight and has his moments but loses a decision to Hop based on activity and ring generalship.