Karl Mildenberger ~ 'I Had The Formula To Beat Cassius Clay'

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Leotis Martin>

"I know Sonny owed a lotta money to some cats in Henderson, Nevada. He fought hard and was beating me, then suddenly from 3 rows behind the timekeeper someone yelled 'Sonny on the Money!", and then Liston left himself wide open for my KO punch. Just didn't seem right."

[Master]

Leotis Martin>

"I know Sonny owed a lotta money to some cats in Henderson, Nevada. He fought hard and was beating me, then suddenly from 3 rows behind the timekeeper someone yelled 'Sonny on the Money!", and then Liston left himself wide open for my KO punch. Just didn't seem right."

is this true or bill paxtom true?

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Leotis Martin>

"I know Sonny owed a lotta money to some cats in Henderson, Nevada. He fought hard and was beating me, then suddenly from 3 rows behind the timekeeper someone yelled 'Sonny on the Money!", and then Liston left himself wide open for my KO punch. Just didn't seem right."

is this true or bill paxtom true?

Publicist Harold Conrad and others believed that Liston was deeply involved as a bill collector in a loan-sharking ring in Las Vegas. When he tried to muscle in for a bigger share of the action, Conrad surmised that his employers got him very drunk, took him home, and stuck him with a needle. (2) Professional gambler Lem Banker insists that Liston was murdered by drug dealers with whom he'd become involved. Banker said he was told by police that Liston had been seen at a house that would be the target of a drug raid. Banker said, "Sheriff [Ralph] Lamb told me, 'Tell your pal Sonny to stay away from the West Side because we're going to bust the drug dealers.'" Banker later learned that the police told Liston the same thing to his face. He apparently was at the dealers' house shortly before they got busted. Because of that, the dealers may have thought Sonny ratted on them and they shot him with a hot dose as retribution. (3) The mob promised Liston some money to throw the second Ali fight but they never paid him. As the years passed and Liston's financial situation worsened, he got angry and told the mob he'd go public with the story unless they gave him the money. That got him killed. (4) Liston was supposed to take a dive when he fought Chuck Wepner six months earlier, and killing him was payback for his failure to do so.[55]

Some believe the police covered up what happened. On January 1, Liston's wife called Johnny Tocco and said she hadn't heard from her husband in three days and was worried. A few years before he died, Johnny Tocco allegedly told his good friend, Tony Davi, that he went to Liston's house and found the door locked and his car in the driveway. Tocco called the police, and they broke into the house. Tocco said that the living room furniture was in disarray but the house did not yet smell of death. He said they found Sonny lying on his bed with a needle sticking out of his arm. Johnny left the house before the police did. "Johnny wasn't a braggart," Davi told Liston biographer Paul Gallender. "He told me in the strictest confidence, but it was like he wanted to get it off his chest." Gallender claims, "A lot of officers knew Sonny was dead before Geraldine returned home on January 5, but they chose to let him rot."[55]

Sonny Liston is interred in Paradise Memorial Gardens in Las Vegas, Nevada. His headstone bears the simple epitaph: "A Man."

[Bill Paxtom]

Friday ~ Aoril 5, 1968

Festhalle ~ Frankfurt, Germany

~ Mildenberger Kayo Victim To Martin ~

~ Mildenberger Knocked Out By Martin In 7th ~

~ Martin Wins By Kayo, Mildenberger Down For Count ~

~ Mildenberger KO'd In Frankfurt ~

American - Leotis Martin poured it in Round 7, and dropped German - Karl Mildenberger
'3-Times' to score a Knockout at 3:08 of Round 7.

The 3rd Knockdown came with 2-Seconds left in the 7th Round, but despite the sound of
the Bell ending the Round, the German was counted out, as he did not rise before the
Referee - Ben Bril reached the count of 10.

Leotis Martin {193 lbs.} came out fast from the Opening Bell, and took the initiative as he
scored with measuring left-jabs and right-hand leads throughout the first 3-Rounds.

Martin scored with frequent long right-hands to Mildenberger's chin, and had no problem
with the German's southpaw attack, as he countered Mildenberger's sporadic right-hands
with his own long right-hands.

Karl Mildenberger {205 lbs.} got back into the fight in Round 4, as he scored with pin-point
right-jabs. But his punches showed no effect on the American, who was not bothered at all
by Mildenberger's southpaw stance in an 'Even' Round.

The hometown German had his best moments early in Round 5, as again he was accurate with
his right-jab, and he did score with several good left-hand leads to Martin's head. But the
hard-hitting Martin rallied late, and shook Mildenberger with '2' hard right-hands to the chin
in another 'Even' Round.

But in Round 6, Martin looked to be tiring, and Mildenberger moved in close to out-work the
American with an assortment of light-punches to the head, to edge out the Round.

In Round 7, Leotis came out fast and surprised Mildenberger with a barrage of punches, and
had the German 'reeling' some after tagging him with a hard right-hand. Later in the Round at
the {1:44 Mark} Martin had the German on the floor from a 'left-right' to the chin.

Mildenberger rose at the '4-Count', and was ready to fight on.

The German was able to weather the 'storm' briefly for 50-Seconds, but Martin started to unload
his heavy-punches, and Mildenberger went down again from a 'jolting' left-right to the chin at
the {2:44 Mark}.

This time Mildenberger was down for a '7-Count', and rose looking 'dazed' at the {2:52 Mark}.

Martin then moved in from the 'Neutral-Corner' and forced Mildenberger to back up to the Ropes
at the {2:55 Mark}.

Then immediately, the American ripped away with a furious 'left-right' combination, and then caught
the German with a long right-hook to the chin, sending Mildenberger 'sagging' into the Ropes at
the {2:58 Mark}.

The Referee's count reached '2' at the Bell, but Ben Bril kept counting as Mildenberger was still
on the canvas. He did not rise before the '10-Count' and Leotis Martin was awarded a 'Knockout'
victory at {3:08} of Round 7.

{Below, Karl Mildenberger is 'Down For The Count', as he is counted out by Referee -Ben Bril}

[Bill Paxtom]

Boxing News {September 13, 1968}

Germany's Karl Mildenberger to defend his European Crown against Britain's Henry Cooper on September 18th.

[Bill Paxtom]

Wednesday ~ September 18, 1968

Empire Pool ~ Wembley, London, England

European Heavyweight Championship



~ Tale of the Tape ~

Karl Mildenberger ~ 53-5-3 {19 KO's} ~ 6' 1 1/2" ~ 208 lbs. ~ Reach; 74" ~ {Age; 30 years, 10 months}
vs.
Henry Cooper ~ 36-13-1 {25 KO's} ~ 6' 1" ~ 187 lbs. ~ Reach; 76" ~ {Age; 34 years, 5 months}
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~ The Skinny ~

This will be a battle between '2' Ringworn Veterans, as both have seen better days.

Karl Mildenberger has owned the European Heavyweight Crown for 4-Years, since October 17, 1964
when he defeated {KO 1} Santo Amonti to win the 'vacant' Championship.

This will be the German's '7th' Title-Defense, but his '1st' on foreign soil.

Karl and Henry were supposed to fight for the European Championship 4 years earlier {back on October 10, 1964},
but Henry pulled out, claiming an elbow injury.

Henry Cooper is the former European Heavyweight Champion, which he won on February 24, 1964 by defeating
{W Dec 15} Brian London. But, Henry was 'stripped' of his Crown on October 10, 1964 for failing to defend
against Karl Mildenberger.

Henry 'is' both the British and Commonwealth Heavyweight Champion, and is out to claim his former European
Crown as well.
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~ The Double Skinny ~

* Karl Mildenberger is coming off a brutal loss {L KO 7} to Leotis Martin only 5-Months earlier {April 5, 1968}.
* Karl has dropped out of the Top 10, and is now slotted at #14 WBA.
* Karl has visited the canvas a total of '12-times' in his last 7-Bouts.

* Henry Cooper has won '3' straight since losing by a 'brutal knockout' {L KO 4} to Floyd Patterson on September 24, 1966.
* But, Henry last fought on November 7, 1967 {10 months ago}.
* Henry is now rated at #10 WBA
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~ The Outside Skinny ~

German Style
If Karl Mildenberger wins, German Fight Promoter - Joachim Gottert is prepared to offer WBA Champion - Jimmy Ellis
$175,000 {Tax Free} to come to Germany to defend his Title against Karl Mildenberger in November 1968.

Karl Mildenberger >
This bout will not be that much of a problem for me. Henry is right there to be hit, and he cuts easily. All I have to
do is watch out for his left-hook, and keep my right-hand in his face. I'll be patient for the first 5-Rounds, and then
I'll work on his eyes.

I'll slash his eye-brows, and cut him up. He'll be wearing a bloody mask by mid-way thru the bout. There is no way
he can go 15-Rounds without getting cut up. They will stop it before we here a Judges decision. I predict a win
by the 11th Round.

English Style
If Henry Cooper wins, British Fight Promoter - Harry Levene is prepared to offer WBA Champion - Jimmy Ellis
$150,000 to come to London, England to defend his Title against Henry Cooper in early-1969.

Henry Cooper >
Mildenberger fits my style. He will no problem for me. I won't predict a Round, just that I will win by a convincing
margin. I'm already looking ahead. Next will be Jimmy Ellis for 1969.

[SugarBoxing]

For some reason, I always skimmed the thread title as "Kate Middleton ~"

Anyway, Ali was a WAY above all his contemporaries...
I believe there was a formulate to beat him, but no flesh to execute it

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plus it's now been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that Sonny Liston took a huge dive in the rematch.on top of that the way to fight was stopped with Jersey Joe Walcott waltzing around the ring like an idiot and then waving the fight off for no reason when liston was not really taking any more punishment and had his hands up in a good defensive position the whole thing was a sham from start to finish. Rocky Marciano and Jack Dempsey as well as great sports writers of the time all looked at the film over and over and over and said it was b******* Jimmy Breslin of the Daily News was right at ringside and liston fell right in front of him less than 10 feet from the tip of his nose and Breslin said very clearly and maintain this position his entire life

" the force of Muhammad Ali's right hand punch which put Sonny Liston down was not strong enough to crush a grape"

. Case f****** closed .. fact

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