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    Default Re: Not a good look for Kovalev

    Quote Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Vendettos View Post
    Too much will be read into this.

    it could have been any animal on the shirt but it happened to be a monkey.


    But when Ali did it, it was funny, right?

    Double standards for sure , Clay punched a toy gorilla in the ring claiming it was Joe , that's why I said judge them in the ring not outside, the bottom line is who fucking cares.
    Ali used race to sell fights a lot of which I found very distasteful, particularly asking Wepner to call him a nigger on tv and when he refused to do so tell everyone he called him it anyway. Ali probably was a racist back then but I guess its forgiven given the times he lived in.

    I couldnt read the article but while the picture is distasteful I dont really see it as making him a racist? Surely calling Stevenson a piece of shit is just as much grounds to call him a racist as this photo is?
    Stop hiding behind Ali.

    Ya'll were quick to call Floyd racist...and Hopkins.

    Kovalev has been pulled to the side about this shit before...plus he has Black trainers and Kathy Duva is married to a BM.

    Stevenson makes 4 x's more than Kovalev.
    So who's the monkey

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    Default Re: Not a good look for Kovalev

    Quote Originally Posted by corvette View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Vendettos View Post
    Too much will be read into this.

    it could have been any animal on the shirt but it happened to be a monkey.


    But when Ali did it, it was funny, right?

    Double standards for sure , Clay punched a toy gorilla in the ring claiming it was Joe , that's why I said judge them in the ring not outside, the bottom line is who fucking cares.
    Ali used race to sell fights a lot of which I found very distasteful, particularly asking Wepner to call him a nigger on tv and when he refused to do so tell everyone he called him it anyway. Ali probably was a racist back then but I guess its forgiven given the times he lived in.

    I couldnt read the article but while the picture is distasteful I dont really see it as making him a racist? Surely calling Stevenson a piece of shit is just as much grounds to call him a racist as this photo is?
    Stop hiding behind Ali.

    Ya'll were quick to call Floyd racist...and Hopkins.

    Kovalev has been pulled to the side about this shit before...plus he has Black trainers and Kathy Duva is married to a BM.

    Stevenson makes 4 x's more than Kovalev.
    So who's the monkey
    What do you mean hiding behind Ali?

    I never called Floyd a racist, hes a prick, but never really noticed anything regarding race coming from him. Hopkins is a racist, he has a chip on his shoulder regarding white people and thinks he doesnt get the recognition he deserves because hes black, yet hes got a point cz Floyd and RJJ got this recognition because of their skin color. Kov could be a racist, I dont know him, but comparing Stevenson to a monkey is not necessarily racist. Its not the same as comparing all black people to monkeys.

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    Default Re: Not a good look for Kovalev

    I just think now a days people throw around the word "racist" too easily. Intent is everything. You can't accidentally or unknowingly be a racist. Kovalev either intended it to be a racial attack, or he could have meant it to be a slam on his Adonis' looks and intelligence. Both are plausible, so why jump to either conclusion? Let the man speak before throwing around the word "racist", it just cheapens the word.

    I live in predominantly white part of the world and insults like monkey and gorilla get thrown around all the time here by whites in reference to other whites.
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    Default Re: Not a good look for Kovalev

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    I just think now a days people throw around the word "racist" too easily. Intent is everything. You can't accidentally or unknowingly be a racist. Kovalev either intended it to be a racial attack, or he could have meant it to be a slam on his Adonis' looks and intelligence. Both are plausible, so why jump to either conclusion? Let the man speak before throwing around the word "racist", it just cheapens the word.

    I live in predominantly white part of the world and insults like monkey and gorilla get thrown around all the time here by whites in reference to other whites.
    If any of that bullshit your wrote is true,then why don't we see the same shit from other Russian fighters?

    You jump to defend him when he's been pulled aside for this shit before.

    Fonfara is from a white country....you don't see that from him.
    Vlad and Vitali are from white countries...you don't see them acting like that.


    Leo Santa Cruz is a bantamweight...and he's cashing bigger checks than Kovalev.

    Kovalev is getting paid like a monkey

    I'd be embarrassed to compare somebody that makes 4x's as much as I do to an Ape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by corvette View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Vendettos View Post
    Too much will be read into this.

    it could have been any animal on the shirt but it happened to be a monkey.


    But when Ali did it, it was funny, right?

    Double standards for sure , Clay punched a toy gorilla in the ring claiming it was Joe , that's why I said judge them in the ring not outside, the bottom line is who fucking cares.
    Ali used race to sell fights a lot of which I found very distasteful, particularly asking Wepner to call him a nigger on tv and when he refused to do so tell everyone he called him it anyway. Ali probably was a racist back then but I guess its forgiven given the times he lived in.

    I couldnt read the article but while the picture is distasteful I dont really see it as making him a racist? Surely calling Stevenson a piece of shit is just as much grounds to call him a racist as this photo is?
    Stop hiding behind Ali.

    Ya'll were quick to call Floyd racist...and Hopkins.

    Kovalev has been pulled to the side about this shit before...plus he has Black trainers and Kathy Duva is married to a BM.

    Stevenson makes 4 x's more than Kovalev.
    So who's the monkey
    What do you mean hiding behind Ali?

    I never called Floyd a racist, hes a prick, but never really noticed anything regarding race coming from him. Hopkins is a racist, he has a chip on his shoulder regarding white people and thinks he doesnt get the recognition he deserves because hes black, yet hes got a point cz Floyd and RJJ got this recognition because of their skin color. Kov could be a racist, I dont know him, but comparing Stevenson to a monkey is not necessarily racist. Its not the same as comparing all black people to monkeys.
    Don't feed the trolls
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    Default Re: Not a good look for Kovalev

    Quote Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by corvette View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Vendettos View Post
    Too much will be read into this.

    it could have been any animal on the shirt but it happened to be a monkey.


    But when Ali did it, it was funny, right?

    Double standards for sure , Clay punched a toy gorilla in the ring claiming it was Joe , that's why I said judge them in the ring not outside, the bottom line is who fucking cares.
    Ali used race to sell fights a lot of which I found very distasteful, particularly asking Wepner to call him a nigger on tv and when he refused to do so tell everyone he called him it anyway. Ali probably was a racist back then but I guess its forgiven given the times he lived in.

    I couldnt read the article but while the picture is distasteful I dont really see it as making him a racist? Surely calling Stevenson a piece of shit is just as much grounds to call him a racist as this photo is?
    Stop hiding behind Ali.

    Ya'll were quick to call Floyd racist...and Hopkins.

    Kovalev has been pulled to the side about this shit before...plus he has Black trainers and Kathy Duva is married to a BM.

    Stevenson makes 4 x's more than Kovalev.
    So who's the monkey
    What do you mean hiding behind Ali?

    I never called Floyd a racist, hes a prick, but never really noticed anything regarding race coming from him. Hopkins is a racist, he has a chip on his shoulder regarding white people and thinks he doesnt get the recognition he deserves because hes black, yet hes got a point cz Floyd and RJJ got this recognition because of their skin color. Kov could be a racist, I dont know him, but comparing Stevenson to a monkey is not necessarily racist. Its not the same as comparing all black people to monkeys.
    so...comparing Black people to gorillas is not the same as comparing them to monkeys.
    What kind of b.s is that?

    Kovalev is making a fool of himself and burning bridges he might need......meanwhile.....Stevenson is cashing checks Kovalev will never see the likes of.

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    Default Re: Not a good look for Kovalev

    Kovalev has gone down in my estimation. I think he now lives in USA and needs to educate himself that racism is ignorant and not cool.

    I still think he beats Stevenson.
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    Default Re: Not a good look for Kovalev

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Kovalev has gone down in my estimation. I think he now lives in USA and needs to educate himself that racism is ignorant and not cool.

    I still think he beats Stevenson.
    He knows better...he's been told before...he just can't help himself.
    You don't see other Russians/Ukranians acting like that.

    I don't see him beating Stevenson.
    Adonis has more punchers on his resume than Kovalev.

    Cleverly...Hopkins..Silka...none of those guys can crack a box of girlscout cookies.

    Hopkins took less to fight Kovalev...that outta' tell you something.

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