The BIG Question: can Manny get a Decision against Floyd in Vegas???

[Julius Rain]

What people are realizing his Floyd has won all of his fights by pure skills of his. He never really needed the judges aside from 1 or 2 times (castillo,maidana). I think those were just good luck on floyds part getting the nod.

I don't think this is a big question at all. I think if there is somebody that rivals Floyds Vegas connection, that would be Pacman. Pac is good friends with Politicians in Nevada, California and DC.

IMO it is Flomos who would need to worry because it doesn't matter to Al Haymon anymore if Floyd stays undefeated in his last fight. Haymon can't make money from a retired Floyd, why do you guys think this fight with Pac finally happen?

Cashcow getting cashout. Just like Oscar vs Pacman, feed the cow to the wolf. Holyfield spoke about it, he said don't tell people about your retirement plan because it's in your last few fights you find out how many friends and enemies you truly have.

Remember when Floyd said he would never do business with Bob Arum and that is why the Pacman fight wouldn't happen? Too bad for him Al Haymon doesn't mind doing business with Bob Arum

That bit sounds a lot like what Arum is doing to Pacman, putting his cashcow up for the slaughter once he milked everything from it and there are no other options left.

so Aurms been trying to casout pac for 5 years? Lol. Or it's Floyd at the end of his big contract with NBC and very near retirement. Haymon has hundreds of fighters for his contract for NBC, he planned well with out Floyd And ofcourse he would force Floyd to end it with Pac.

No he hasn't been trying to do anything other than milk pac before he gives him for the slaughter. Arum is a lying piece of shit so don't believe a word that comes from his mouth. He's the guy who was going on about some stadium that mould make more money (corvette has already mentioned).
All I'm saying is that Bob Arum is a snake. I have nothing against Pac I like the guy and I believe he just does as he's told and Arum take advantage of it.
It's pointless pointing fingers now with the fight less than 2 weeks away.

I don't blame you for feeling that way towards Bob Arum. But like I told that fag Corvette. Many people underrated Pac's connection and Boss Status. The guy is a wolf disguise as sheep. Like any good politician but Pac may actually truly have a good heart and good intention to change things.

Anybody who's been with Pac won't say anything bad about him, including ARiza who is now in camp with Floyd. Even Oscar won't say anything bad about Pac although Pac kinda took a free million dollar signng bonus from GBP in the past.

Think about it. Pac is in more control than he makes people believe. He just doesn't act like a diva ala Floyd about it.

[beenKOed]

A wide decision, yes. You know what I mean, a fight where Manny dominates with a KD or two.
A fight with many close rounds, or where momentum swings back and forth, Manny will not win.
I don't expect Manny to dominate the fight, he could possibly get a KO, but not win a majority of the rounds.
If it goes the distance, Manny will lose, in my opinion.

[beenKOed]

What people are realizing his Floyd has won all of his fights by pure skills of his. He never really needed the judges aside from 1 or 2 times (castillo,maidana). I think those were just good luck on floyds part getting the nod.

I don't think this is a big question at all. I think if there is somebody that rivals Floyds Vegas connection, that would be Pacman. Pac is good friends with Politicians in Nevada, California and DC.

IMO it is Flomos who would need to worry because it doesn't matter to Al Haymon anymore if Floyd stays undefeated in his last fight. Haymon can't make money from a retired Floyd, why do you guys think this fight with Pac finally happen?

Cashcow getting cashout. Just like Oscar vs Pacman, feed the cow to the wolf. Holyfield spoke about it, he said don't tell people about your retirement plan because it's in your last few fights you find out how many friends and enemies you truly have.

Remember when Floyd said he would never do business with Bob Arum and that is why the Pacman fight wouldn't happen? Too bad for him Al Haymon doesn't mind doing business with Bob Arum

Sir, you could piss me off, if I let you.

You need a decision to win.

Floyd is the man in Vegas. Fact, as Fenster would say.

Floyd is going to be doing business with Haymon long after he retires. Man, think!!

Hell man, Floyd is cashing himself out. Shiiiiiiiiit! Think man!

People change their minds everyday, that's one of those beautiful and exasperating things about humans.

[zhubin]

This actually is going to be an interesting subplot. Conspiracy theories have been going around (Holyfield mentioning it as well) that the cards may go against Floyd to create a lucrative rematch. It's boxing...it's Vegas...so anything is possible. The interesting point Holyfield makes is that the powers to be don't like the notion of a guy going undefeated and then hanging it up. They want the cash cow to keep fighting and generating money as long as possible. It's a super shady world of high stakes gambling with huge amounts of money involved. Nothing shocks me when it comes to the business of boxing.

[beenKOed]

This actually is going to be an interesting subplot. Conspiracy theories have been going around (Holyfield mentioning it as well) that the cards may go against Floyd to create a lucrative rematch. It's boxing...it's Vegas...so anything is possible. The interesting point Holyfield makes is that the powers to be don't like the notion of a guy going undefeated and then hanging it up. They want the cash cow to keep fighting and generating money as long as possible. It's a super shady world of high stakes gambling with huge amounts of money involved. Nothing shocks me when it comes to the business of boxing.

Like you say anything can happen in boxing, but I can't see it happening, not in this fight.
Everyone is going to be watching and scoring this fight!

[Xwetie]

I don't think so

[Xwetie]

[Master]

It is true. The ref have been there to protect their meal ticket. It needs Mills Lane to come out of retirement.

[Xwetie]

I dont wanna say to much it might affect someone, but i don't think manny will win with a decision, only chance for him with a KO even that will be hard, he need to put floyd into seize mode to win over him and to convince everyone around. but thats my opinion, and I don't really care of who wins just putting my opinion out here.

[Xwetie]

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/boxing...160225887.html

[ruthless rocco]

Bob Arum hasn't even signed the contract for the fight yet...

[corvette]

It is true. The ref have been there to protect their meal ticket. It needs Mills Lane to come out of retirement.

Meal ticket?

C'mon...you're a mod...at least try to stop trolling.

Kenny "protected" Manny in the Bradley fight.

[corvette]

Bob Arum hasn't even signed the contract for the fight yet...

All he has to do is blame it on Floyd,the media and the sheeple will eat it up.

[Master]

It is true. The ref have been there to protect their meal ticket. It needs Mills Lane to come out of retirement.

Meal ticket?

C'mon...you're a mod...at least try to stop trolling.

Kenny "protected" Manny in the Bradley fight.

[C.J.Rock]

Although Floyd has had some close decisions he is always on the right end of them so I believe Vegas will not allow him to lose. Even a close victory will mean a rematch.

America has 0 love for Floyd...last I checked Vegas is in America.

Judges in vegas have already tried to screw him so I don't know what you are talking about....hell....you don't even know what you're talking about

A few reasons why Manny is facing a stacked deck


1.....Floyd's last 2 fights were reffed by Tony Weekes & Kenny Bayless. Tony called the fight straight down the middle Floyd took a beating Kenny looked after Floyd like a Mother hen looking after her chick Who is reffing on May2 ?? Kenny Bayless


2... the 3 judges in Maidana1 scored the fight 117-111 116-112 & 114-114 The two who scored suspiciously high in favour of Floyd are judging May2 The judge who scored more realistically 114-114 Michael Pernick isn't


Need I say more