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    Default Re: The Logic Behind a Pacquiao win...makes no sense

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Manny has speed, southpaw stance, high work rate and high volume of punches which will cause Floyd some problems early. Floyd adjusts and takes over the fight. Manny will then have to take chances and because Manny was knocked out cold he is gun shy.
    Something tells me he wont be gun shy for this fight, I don't see Pacqiou cruising to a decision loss against Floyd. Which will set him up to many more counters. I think it's likely this fight gets stopped late.

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    Default Re: The Logic Behind a Pacquiao win...makes no sense

    The more I think of it, the more I see it like @Rantcatrat (quote button won't work today). Pacquiao could get very close to winning if Floyd looses the first rounds. And if he looses them more clearly than is usual in him (we're talking about Pac) or at least the judges think so, then...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boxer4life View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Manny has speed, southpaw stance, high work rate and high volume of punches which will cause Floyd some problems early. Floyd adjusts and takes over the fight. Manny will then have to take chances and because Manny was knocked out cold he is gun shy.
    Something tells me he wont be gun shy for this fight, I don't see Pacqiou cruising to a decision loss against Floyd. Which will set him up to many more counters. I think it's likely this fight gets stopped late.
    You think the millions of fans that support Pac man will force Manny to go for the win and he may walk into a big right hand? Yes possibly.
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    Default Re: The Logic Behind a Pacquiao win...makes no sense

    For me, the key to the fight lies with how Mayweather reacts to Pacquiao's leads. If Mayweather isn't initially shocked by the speed, he will be able to avoid the very first punch of most combinations by dipping below the waist, which will probably cause the fighters to clinch. This takes away Pacquiao's volume punching, which is basically his key to winning the fight. I can see the fight being fairly clumsy in that regard with all the clean work offensive work coming from Floyd.

    Pacquiao can outwork Floyd, but it all depends on whether or not he can land his lead on Mayweather. My expectation is that he will have a bit of success with it early on, but Mayweather will adjust, feel his way into the fight and probably do enough to take it probably 8-4. My expectation is that if Pacquiao does enough to win 3 or 4 rounds, there will be some sort of scorecard controversy which will probably lead to a rematch.
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    Default Re: The Logic Behind a Pacquiao win...makes no sense

    Calzaghe/Hopkins. The workrate and speed should be enough to outwork the older cagier spoil minded guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    Calzaghe/Hopkins. The workrate and speed should be enough to outwork the older cagier spoil minded guy.
    You think Floyd is a spoiler?!?!

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    Okay, now for a boxing IQ test. What is the difference between Marquez and Floyd? I'm bringing up this issue as many fans and even experts are using Floyd's beating of Marquez as sort of a gauge to predict the outcome of the fight. If you can answer this, you'll know why Manny can beat Floyd. This is a very crucial difference or issue that I'm counting on for Manny to beat Floyd. Anyone up to the challenge?
    There's logic lurking somewhere under the intangibles of boxing that only the people who really knows the sport can find or see. Think about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pacfan View Post
    Okay, now for a boxing IQ test. What is the difference between Marquez and Floyd? I'm bringing up this issue as many fans and even experts are using Floyd's beating of Marquez as sort of a gauge to predict the outcome of the fight. If you can answer this, you'll know why Manny can beat Floyd. This is a very crucial difference or issue that I'm counting on for Manny to beat Floyd. Anyone up to the challenge?
    There's logic lurking somewhere under the intangibles of boxing that only the people who really knows the sport can find or see. Think about it.

    I dont ever agree with the if A beat B and B beat C than that means A can beat C. But the "difference" you're talking about I dont know, they have a ton of differences. I just think overall mayweather is a much better fighter than marquez, and manny always struggles with people who can move. I keep saying it and i stand by it, this fight wont be close. But please do impart your wisdom on us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boxer4life View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pacfan View Post
    Okay, now for a boxing IQ test. What is the difference between Marquez and Floyd? I'm bringing up this issue as many fans and even experts are using Floyd's beating of Marquez as sort of a gauge to predict the outcome of the fight. If you can answer this, you'll know why Manny can beat Floyd. This is a very crucial difference or issue that I'm counting on for Manny to beat Floyd. Anyone up to the challenge?
    There's logic lurking somewhere under the intangibles of boxing that only the people who really knows the sport can find or see. Think about it.

    I dont ever agree with the if A beat B and B beat C than that means A can beat C. But the "difference" you're talking about I dont know, they have a ton of differences. I just think overall mayweather is a much better fighter than marquez, and manny always struggles with people who can move. I keep saying it and i stand by it, this fight wont be close. But please do impart your wisdom on us.
    Thanks @Boxer4life, and I do respect your opinion, it's pretty reasonable.
    Well the big difference is that Marquez can hurt Manny, but can Floyd? I think not. You see, the reason Manny had difficulty with Marquez was that he wasn't able do what he wanted offensively because every time Manny came in, he was made to pay dearly for it (you can see Manny's busted face after every fight with Marquez). That limited his offense which was the key to all his victory. So if Manny can take Floyd's punch, which I think he can, he will be coming in and in and it will be just a matter of time that Floyd will be caught by his big shots and I believe when that happens, like all other opponents of Manny, Floyd will either be KO/TKO'd or will be forced to backtrack the rest of the fight, just like what Mosley, Cotto and others did. And I've seen nobody who backtracks win. This is what I'm expecting Saturday and we shall see...
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    Default Re: The Logic Behind a Pacquiao win...makes no sense

    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    Calzaghe/Hopkins. The workrate and speed should be enough to outwork the older cagier spoil minded guy.
    Hopkins beat Calzaghe clearly

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