Mayweather might be the best we've ever seen

[Beanflicker]

Whitaker did what he has done and gone up in weight fighting better fighters.

You think Pernell has a better resume than Floyd? How could you justify that?

[Master]

Whitaker did what he has done and gone up in weight fighting better fighters.

You think Pernell has a better resume than Floyd? How could you justify that?

I am saying he has gone up in weight and done exactly what Floyd did but no one is making a song and dance about it proclaiming he is TBE.

[Beanflicker]

I am saying he has gone up in weight and done exactly what Floyd did but no one is making a song and dance about it proclaiming he is TBE.

Well Sweetpea has titles in 3 different weight divisions (135, 140, 147). Floyd was a champ in 5 different weight classes (130, 135, 140, 147, 154). He also didn't have the success that Floyd had in staying undefeated, he didn't have the longevity like Floyd and in some of his biggest fights he didn't come away with the win (although to be fair he was robbed against JCC and JLR, and passed his prime when he fought DLH). And in the end, Floyd has fought tougher opposition.

[Mr140]

Cant put Mayweather past Leonard to be honest so like 11 i guess i mean even with this fight still not as big as beating Hagler or Hearns. The welterweight division i feel is a tad slim I mean the 80's and the 90's were packed it seems now the welterweights are kinda meh compared to pas years.

[Master]

I am saying he has gone up in weight and done exactly what Floyd did but no one is making a song and dance about it proclaiming he is TBE.

Well Sweetpea has titles in 3 different weight divisions (135, 140, 147). Floyd was a champ in 5 different weight classes (130, 135, 140, 147, 154). He also didn't have the success that Floyd had in staying undefeated, he didn't have the longevity like Floyd and in some of his biggest fights he didn't come away with the win (although to be fair he was robbed against JCC and JLR, and passed his prime when he fought DLH). And in the end, Floyd has fought tougher opposition.

Sweat pea was undefeated for a long time in reality and 0 does not really mean that much when you do not always fight the best at the weight. All I am saying sweat pea did it earlier and better.

[Beanflicker]

Sweat pea was undefeated for a long time in reality and 0 does not really mean that much when you do not always fight the best at the weight. All I am saying sweat pea did it earlier and better.

Well Pea had a loss 3 or 4 years into his career (to be fair, it was a robbery). He was a great LW and WW champ, but again he didn't do what Floyd did (5 weight division vs 3 weight divisions), and I don't really see how you can say he did it "better". Sweetpea was amazing but Floyd showed more skill, he had much more electrifying performances along the way (mostly from 130-140) and he fought and won in a lot more super fights.

At this point there is nobody in the history of boxing that has done what Floyd has.

[Mr140]

I rate Sweetpea lower then Mayweather but if he had to move as many weight classes as Mayweather he be fighting like fucking Hopkins. Also later in his career he had to go against Prime Oscar and Tito i mean dont think the divsion is as stacked now for Mayweather at the end of his career.

[Beanflicker]

I love Sweetpea and I rate him higher on the all time list than most people do I imagine.

The performances he put on against DLH and Trinidad have to be admired, given the fact that he was a washed up coke addict at the time, and there's even an argument that he won the DLH fight. Trinidad ducked him for years and fought him when he was a shell of himself. People talk about Floyd ducking and dodging guys, how come Tito doesn't get shit for turning down 4.5 mil to fight Trinidad in the mid 90s?

[beenKOed]

Sweat pea was undefeated for a long time in reality and 0 does not really mean that much when you do not always fight the best at the weight. All I am saying sweat pea did it earlier and better.

Well Pea had a loss 3 or 4 years into his career (to be fair, it was a robbery). He was a great LW and WW champ, but again he didn't do what Floyd did (5 weight division vs 3 weight divisions), and I don't really see how you can say he did it "better". Sweetpea was amazing but Floyd showed more skill, he had much more electrifying performances along the way (mostly from 130-140) and he fought and won in a lot more super fights.

At this point there is nobody in the history of boxing that has done what Floyd has.

Marciano did one thing better and in half the time.
I'm not saying Marciano was better than Floyd, I just can't let you get away with that last sentence.
It's the reason I'm positive Floyd will go for 50-0! If he doesn't, there will always be someone out there like me.

[Beanflicker]

Marciano did one thing better and in half the time.
I'm not saying Marciano was better than Floyd, I just can't let you get away with that last sentence.
It's the reason I'm positive Floyd will go for 50-0! If he doesn't, there will always be someone out there like me.

For sure Marciano had a great run, but to me the number of wins isn't the issue, Mayweather could go fight two bums on the same night in September and reach 50-0 if he wanted to.

It's much more remarkable to stay undefeated for 19 years than it is to stay defeated for 8 years. There's so much that can go wrong in that length of time, and for Mayweather to have that kind of longevity and to beat arguably his greatest opponent at the age of 38 is something that you just don't see in boxing.

Of course there are guys who had success for longer periods of time, like Bhop, Archie Moore and Duran, but none of those guys had the level of dominance that Floyd has had.

[chris6878]

Floyd is the TBE (the boring-est ever)
ITs amazing how many people are caught up with the Floyd hit and not get hit shit. He has been booed his last 5-6 fights cause he never engages. SHit is sad.