Mayweather might be the best we've ever seen

[Master]

I am saying he has gone up in weight and done exactly what Floyd did but no one is making a song and dance about it proclaiming he is TBE.

Well Sweetpea has titles in 3 different weight divisions (135, 140, 147). Floyd was a champ in 5 different weight classes (130, 135, 140, 147, 154). He also didn't have the success that Floyd had in staying undefeated, he didn't have the longevity like Floyd and in some of his biggest fights he didn't come away with the win (although to be fair he was robbed against JCC and JLR, and passed his prime when he fought DLH). And in the end, Floyd has fought tougher opposition.

Sweat pea was undefeated for a long time in reality and 0 does not really mean that much when you do not always fight the best at the weight. All I am saying sweat pea did it earlier and better.

[Beanflicker]

Sweat pea was undefeated for a long time in reality and 0 does not really mean that much when you do not always fight the best at the weight. All I am saying sweat pea did it earlier and better.

Well Pea had a loss 3 or 4 years into his career (to be fair, it was a robbery). He was a great LW and WW champ, but again he didn't do what Floyd did (5 weight division vs 3 weight divisions), and I don't really see how you can say he did it "better". Sweetpea was amazing but Floyd showed more skill, he had much more electrifying performances along the way (mostly from 130-140) and he fought and won in a lot more super fights.

At this point there is nobody in the history of boxing that has done what Floyd has.

[Mr140]

I rate Sweetpea lower then Mayweather but if he had to move as many weight classes as Mayweather he be fighting like fucking Hopkins. Also later in his career he had to go against Prime Oscar and Tito i mean dont think the divsion is as stacked now for Mayweather at the end of his career.

[Beanflicker]

I love Sweetpea and I rate him higher on the all time list than most people do I imagine.

The performances he put on against DLH and Trinidad have to be admired, given the fact that he was a washed up coke addict at the time, and there's even an argument that he won the DLH fight. Trinidad ducked him for years and fought him when he was a shell of himself. People talk about Floyd ducking and dodging guys, how come Tito doesn't get shit for turning down 4.5 mil to fight Trinidad in the mid 90s?

[Mr140]

I dont think Mayweather is ducker really just way shit goes now and not like others fighters dont look at the options choose the one with more money. Its just at the end of the day ww division was kinda weak compared to the 90's. I mean look at the guys in the division now there good but not really great i mean pac had a few good wins at ww Mayweather had more and legit wins at lmw to but guys they are fighting on there declines are not close to fight fucking Prime Oscar and Tito those guys are atg.

[Master]

I love Sweetpea and I rate him higher on the all time list than most people do I imagine.

The performances he put on against DLH and Trinidad have to be admired, given the fact that he was a washed up coke addict at the time, and there's even an argument that he won the DLH fight. Trinidad ducked him for years and fought him when he was a shell of himself. People talk about Floyd ducking and dodging guys, how come Tito doesn't get shit for turning down 4.5 mil to fight Trinidad in the mid 90s?

Tito turning down Trinidad?

[Beanflicker]

Oops Whitaker I meant haha

[TitoFan]

I love Sweetpea and I rate him higher on the all time list than most people do I imagine.

The performances he put on against DLH and Trinidad have to be admired, given the fact that he was a washed up coke addict at the time, and there's even an argument that he won the DLH fight. Trinidad ducked him for years and fought him when he was a shell of himself. People talk about Floyd ducking and dodging guys, how come Tito doesn't get shit for turning down 4.5 mil to fight Trinidad in the mid 90s?

Oh yeah.... back in the mid-90's Whitaker claimed everybody was ducking him.
Trinidad..... DLH..... Chavez for a rematch.



Never mind none of these fighters were ever known as duckers.
Yet another careless throwing around of an overused term in boxing.

Ducked in late '96, and yet beaten from pillar to post in early '99.
Brilliant strategy.... that.

[Beanflicker]

Oh yeah.... back in the mid-90's Whitaker claimed everybody was ducking him.
Trinidad..... DLH..... Chavez for a rematch.



Never mind none of these fighters were ever known as duckers.

Yeah, well how come none of those motherfuckers bothered to fight Whitaker back in the early 90s?

It's not speculation, it's fact: Don King and Tito were offered 4.5 MILLION to fight Whitaker. He turned it down to create super fights with names like Larry Barnes, Roger Turner and Freddie Pendleton. All the while ranked #2 to Sweetpea's #1 by Ring Magazine.

We all know why Chavez never fought Pea again: he got embarrassed the first time and got a mercy draw to save his perfect record.

I give DLH a bit of credit for finally stepping up, but he only did so after seeing him struggle heavily with Wilfredo Rivera and Hurtado, knowing the Sweet Pea was on his last leg - and even still he nearly lost to him. Trinidad fought him after a 2 year layoff when he was washed up and fucked up with cocaine addiction.

[TitoFan]

Oh yeah.... back in the mid-90's Whitaker claimed everybody was ducking him.
Trinidad..... DLH..... Chavez for a rematch.



Never mind none of these fighters were ever known as duckers.

Yeah, well how come none of those motherfuckers bothered to fight Whitaker back in the early 90s?

It's not speculation, it's fact: Don King and Tito were offered 4.5 MILLION to fight Whitaker. He turned it down to create super fights with names like Larry Barnes, Roger Turner and Freddie Pendleton. All the while ranked #2 to Sweetpea's #1 by Ring Magazine.

We all know why Chavez never fought Pea again: he got embarrassed the first time and got a mercy draw to save his perfect record.

I give DLH a bit of credit for finally stepping up, but he only did so after seeing him struggle heavily with Wilfredo Rivera and Hurtado, knowing the Sweet Pea was on his last leg - and even still he nearly lost to him. Trinidad fought him after a 2 year layoff when he was washed up and fucked up with cocaine addiction.

LOL... don't get me started on DLH and Trinidad's common opponents. Whitaker may have been the ONLY opponent DLH fought before Trinidad did. Other than that... they were all leftovers. Vargas, Carr, Campas, Mayorga.... etc, etc. As to why they never met, again.... none of the fighters I mentioned, including DLH, were known as duckers. The term is overused, and it's used too conveniently when the stars didn't align themselves correctly for Fighter X to have fought Fighter Y. If we're gonna come to that, let's just make a list of all the fighters Floyd never fought and say he ducked THEM. Not fair, is it. And let's face it.... Whitaker fought Rivera twice and couldn't put him away. You think that alone struck fear into the likes of DLH or Trinidad? Please...

[beenKOed]

Sweat pea was undefeated for a long time in reality and 0 does not really mean that much when you do not always fight the best at the weight. All I am saying sweat pea did it earlier and better.

Well Pea had a loss 3 or 4 years into his career (to be fair, it was a robbery). He was a great LW and WW champ, but again he didn't do what Floyd did (5 weight division vs 3 weight divisions), and I don't really see how you can say he did it "better". Sweetpea was amazing but Floyd showed more skill, he had much more electrifying performances along the way (mostly from 130-140) and he fought and won in a lot more super fights.

At this point there is nobody in the history of boxing that has done what Floyd has.

Marciano did one thing better and in half the time.
I'm not saying Marciano was better than Floyd, I just can't let you get away with that last sentence.
It's the reason I'm positive Floyd will go for 50-0! If he doesn't, there will always be someone out there like me.

[Beanflicker]

Marciano did one thing better and in half the time.
I'm not saying Marciano was better than Floyd, I just can't let you get away with that last sentence.
It's the reason I'm positive Floyd will go for 50-0! If he doesn't, there will always be someone out there like me.

For sure Marciano had a great run, but to me the number of wins isn't the issue, Mayweather could go fight two bums on the same night in September and reach 50-0 if he wanted to.

It's much more remarkable to stay undefeated for 19 years than it is to stay defeated for 8 years. There's so much that can go wrong in that length of time, and for Mayweather to have that kind of longevity and to beat arguably his greatest opponent at the age of 38 is something that you just don't see in boxing.

Of course there are guys who had success for longer periods of time, like Bhop, Archie Moore and Duran, but none of those guys had the level of dominance that Floyd has had.

[chris6878]

Floyd is the TBE (the boring-est ever)
ITs amazing how many people are caught up with the Floyd hit and not get hit shit. He has been booed his last 5-6 fights cause he never engages. SHit is sad.