General Election 2015

[ryanman]

Ukip are leading the poll so far , how interesting.

Yet in national polls they are currently around 13%. Interesting.

[ryanman]

As much as I don't see Milliband as a credible leader to represent us (his brother would've been) I am swaying more towards Labour every day. The more I look at each party's policies the more I think that Labour (in principal, not withstanding the personnel) are the best for our country!

The sad/good thing is Ed is actually regarded by those that know as being considerably smarter than David. Ed's policies are far more for the people the David's would have been.
But Ed cannot eat a bacon sandwich properly.

Fuck fair taxes, spending on services and a credible plan for the NHS, if you can't eat a bacon sandwich properly you can fuck off!

[ryanman]

Ryan, yes, I watched the Milibrand interview, but was disheartened to see him flinch on bankers and continue waffling on about the NHS despite Labour bringing in all the PFI's to begin with. Sure, Miliband doesn't seem like a bad bloke, but it shouldn't be about the lesser of evils. How can you take Labour seriously when they still have Tony Blair in the party? He should be in the Hague, let alone still a member of the Labour Party. Galloway was booted for far less than carrying out war crimes. For me it's the same old establishment politics and the SNP HAVE to be part of the deal. I think the media is appalling the way they are demonising Scotland. A year ago they were threatening Scotland and then begging them to stay with all kinds of empty promises and now suddenly the Scots are dangerous? Two faced evil media run by non-taxing paying billionaires. Westmonster is dangerous. Fracking, wars, banking fraud, debt, austerity.

You would have to be evil to vote Tory and you must have amnesia to vote Labour. Miliband should be talking about bringing back clause 4 and nationalisation and instead it's 'I will freeze your bills for a bit'. It's good cop, bad cop and this cop isn't a whole lot better. People deserve so much more considering they did not cause the recession. I am sorry for ranting, but the topic upsets me.

Of course I'd like to see Labour go further and be a true Labour party. But they need to be electable.
IF he gets in I think Ed will do what he can over time, if he has some stability, to get closer to Labour roots. He is not, and never was, A Blairite.

I also fully agree with your thoughts on the demonisation of the SNP. It is an utter joke and making me quite angry. Fucking snake Murdoch.

[Dia bando]

Just a bit more almost 1 million people using food banks in the UK,! SHAME on you Tory bastards
in this day and age truly appalling facts.
We have with out a doubt returned to a cap in hand syndrome on employment, treating people
like shit, people working long hours for poor money, just to line the pockets of the rich.
Don't put up with IT VOTE THE BASTARDS OUT, we are returning back to the RICH BASTARDS
lording it over us lets not let history repeat itself.

[El Kabong]

Ed Miliband wants to ban 'Islamophobia'




Fucking pc douchebag just wants to ban dissent/criticism...but you lot will elect him I'm certain because he's an idiot and everyone knows you give jackasses like that more power and only good things will come of it

[Master]

Ed will not win and islamaphobia is a right wing dick bombing mosques, stabbing an elderly Muslim in the street and spreading hateful propaganda to stir up trouble within communities.

[El Kabong]

spreading hateful propaganda to stir up trouble within communities.

You mean like this guy does

[Dark Lord Al]

spreading hateful propaganda to stir up trouble within communities.

You mean like this guy does

Yes this guy commits treason everyday and should be hung.

[Master]

Yes his filth stirs up hatred and bile too.

[El Kabong]

Yes his filth stirs up hatred and bile too.

Now I think it's VITAL to our conversation for you to know that IN NO WAY am I suggesting we take Chowderhead's (or Andy, whichever he doesn't prefer I use) tactics and turn them on all Muslims....by NO MEANS am I suggesting that.

What I AM saying is that Christians are both revered and reviled but it is socially EXPECTED of them that they react like adults regardless of what vitriol heartless people might spew at them....Muslims on the other hand are starting to be treated in the same manner as African-Americans in that it's the soft bigotry of low expectations again. The people who wish to "outlaw Islamaphobia" are saying that the Muslims A) are constantly attacked and B ) they cannot #1. Handle such attacks and 2. we cannot hold them accountable for their actions after such an attack......I think that's A) selling short ADULT Muslims and B ) creating a system where Chowderhead can reach and poison more minds.


So, Muslims LIKE Christians need to learn to take it on the chin and have what? FAITH that the words of humans will not hurt them or their religious beliefs. If your faith is strong, then you do not make mountains out of molehills. I certainly do not wish for Muslims to become a victim class, I certainly wish African-Americans had not so willingly become a victim class because now they are at the mercy of 1 party as that party has classified them as victims and anyone not willing to be a victim is ostracized and unprotected....it hasn't worked well for anyone but the politicians.

[El Kabong]

Shorter, more concise....treat people like babies and they'll act like babies

[Master]

Shorter, more concise....treat people like babies and they'll act like babies

I respectfully disagree, whereas you see protecting babies I see protecting them from extreme ignorant bigots who cause harm.

[El Kabong]

Shorter, more concise....treat people like babies and they'll act like babies

I respectfully disagree, whereas you see protecting babies I see protecting them from extreme ignorant bigots who cause harm.

Allow me to retort

Submerging a Crucifix in urine = "It's art and even if it isn't art per say it's free speech and free speech is important"

Holding a Prophet Mohammad drawing contest = "Well really, you're just asking for it"


Why are Christians being held to a higher standard? Is it because they are intellectually superior and don't immediately turn violent when someone or something insults their views or is it for some other reason?

[Master]

Shorter, more concise....treat people like babies and they'll act like babies

I respectfully disagree, whereas you see protecting babies I see protecting them from extreme ignorant bigots who cause harm.

Allow me to retort

Submerging a Crucifix in urine = "It's art and even if it isn't art per say it's free speech and free speech is important"

Holding a Prophet Mohammad drawing contest = "Well really, you're just asking for it"


Why are Christians being held to a higher standard? Is it because they are intellectually superior and don't immediately turn violent when someone or something insults their views or is it for some other reason?

Both things are pathetic and aimed to incite a reaction. However both religions should be big enough not to react.

[El Kabong]

Both things are pathetic and aimed to incite a reaction. However both religions should be big enough not to react.

Indeed they are, and yes practitioners of both religious SHOULD be bigger than any man made insult of their God of choice.

HOWEVER

Only 1 group is expected to not react with violence....so I ask again: Is that because the Christians are intellectually superior or is there another reason?