There needs to be an immediate rematch (Manny/Floyd)

[Gandalf]

I know I am in a self imposed exile and that shall be duly continued once I have got this off of my chest.

Watching the fight live, I just thought Manny was shot. What is shot? It is being unable to get your punches off, suddenly losing your step etc. With all that has now come out, it seems Manny isn't shot, but was clearly injured. There is no other reason why the most active fighter Floyd has faced would throw the least and land some of the least. It wasn't Floyd at 38 suddenly becoming a master again. That is poppycock.

I also believe Floyd did know about the injury and in the early rounds every time there in close, Floyd made a grab at the arm and gave it a tug. At one point I shouted at the TV, 'is he trying to break an arm Tyson style?' It was so obvious and when it came out about the arm after the fight, it all clicked into place. Floyd clearly knew what he was doing.

Manny is a fool for going along with it all for the money as Floyd is not Morales or Marquez, he isn't in it for the glory and the boxing. It's opportunism and that alone. He will have to give up a lot to fight Floyd and he should. However, he deserves a rematch and if there is money then it would make sense. Fuck a Cotto rematch at 160. I couldn't give a damn about that. Manny can beat Floyd and I still believe that.

Rematch before the end of the year. Give up the singing and playing and heal and get back to work. You have a job to do Manny Pacquiao. Also quit the smiling and posing, that has also left a sour taste after that showing. Get serious and prove you want to be in there or else you don't deserve a rematch. Let Floyd have the money, but you get serious or your legacy is dumped on. A final chance. That is all. I am back to my Manny imposed exile on main street.

[ruthless rocco]

Somebody already made this thread earlier today Richie.

Now back in your hole!

[denilson200]

I know I am in a self imposed exile and that shall be duly continued once I have got this off of my chest.

Watching the fight live, I just thought Manny was shot. What is shot? It is being unable to get your punches off, suddenly losing your step etc. With all that has now come out, it seems Manny isn't shot, but was clearly injured. There is no other reason why the most active fighter Floyd has faced would throw the least and land some of the least. It wasn't Floyd at 38 suddenly becoming a master again. That is poppycock.

I also believe Floyd did know about the injury and in the early rounds every time there in close, Floyd made a grab at the arm and gave it a tug. At one point I shouted at the TV, 'is he trying to break an arm Tyson style?' It was so obvious and when it came out about the arm after the fight, it all clicked into place. Floyd clearly knew what he was doing.

Manny is a fool for going along with it all for the money as Floyd is not Morales or Marquez, he isn't in it for the glory and the boxing. It's opportunism and that alone. He will have to give up a lot to fight Floyd and he should. However, he deserves a rematch and if there is money then it would make sense. Fuck a Cotto rematch at 160. I couldn't give a damn about that. Manny can beat Floyd and I still believe that.

Rematch before the end of the year. Give up the singing and playing and heal and get back to work. You have a job to do Manny Pacquiao. Also quit the smiling and posing, that has also left a sour taste after that showing. Get serious and prove you want to be in there or else you don't deserve a rematch. Let Floyd have the money, but you get serious or your legacy is dumped on. A final chance. That is all. I am back to my Manny imposed exile on main street.

Floyd Mayweather will never allow himself to lose to a non-black fighter

Pac-Man was the honourary white man for the night and he was beaten and the same would happen again.

[walrus]

I know I am in a self imposed exile and that shall be duly continued once I have got this off of my chest.

Watching the fight live, I just thought Manny was shot. What is shot? It is being unable to get your punches off, suddenly losing your step etc. With all that has now come out, it seems Manny isn't shot, but was clearly injured. There is no other reason why the most active fighter Floyd has faced would throw the least and land some of the least. It wasn't Floyd at 38 suddenly becoming a master again. That is poppycock.

I also believe Floyd did know about the injury and in the early rounds every time there in close, Floyd made a grab at the arm and gave it a tug. At one point I shouted at the TV, 'is he trying to break an arm Tyson style?' It was so obvious and when it came out about the arm after the fight, it all clicked into place. Floyd clearly knew what he was doing.

Manny is a fool for going along with it all for the money as Floyd is not Morales or Marquez, he isn't in it for the glory and the boxing. It's opportunism and that alone. He will have to give up a lot to fight Floyd and he should. However, he deserves a rematch and if there is money then it would make sense. Fuck a Cotto rematch at 160. I couldn't give a damn about that. Manny can beat Floyd and I still believe that.

Rematch before the end of the year. Give up the singing and playing and heal and get back to work. You have a job to do Manny Pacquiao. Also quit the smiling and posing, that has also left a sour taste after that showing. Get serious and prove you want to be in there or else you don't deserve a rematch. Let Floyd have the money, but you get serious or your legacy is dumped on. A final chance. That is all. I am back to my Manny imposed exile on main street.

Floyd Mayweather will never allow himself to lose to a non-black fighter

Pac-Man was the honourary white man for the night and he was beaten and the same would happen again.

[TitoFan]

I know I am in a self imposed exile and that shall be duly continued once I have got this off of my chest.

Watching the fight live, I just thought Manny was shot. What is shot? It is being unable to get your punches off, suddenly losing your step etc. With all that has now come out, it seems Manny isn't shot, but was clearly injured. There is no other reason why the most active fighter Floyd has faced would throw the least and land some of the least. It wasn't Floyd at 38 suddenly becoming a master again. That is poppycock.

I also believe Floyd did know about the injury and in the early rounds every time there in close, Floyd made a grab at the arm and gave it a tug. At one point I shouted at the TV, 'is he trying to break an arm Tyson style?' It was so obvious and when it came out about the arm after the fight, it all clicked into place. Floyd clearly knew what he was doing.

Manny is a fool for going along with it all for the money as Floyd is not Morales or Marquez, he isn't in it for the glory and the boxing. It's opportunism and that alone. He will have to give up a lot to fight Floyd and he should. However, he deserves a rematch and if there is money then it would make sense. Fuck a Cotto rematch at 160. I couldn't give a damn about that. Manny can beat Floyd and I still believe that.

Rematch before the end of the year. Give up the singing and playing and heal and get back to work. You have a job to do Manny Pacquiao. Also quit the smiling and posing, that has also left a sour taste after that showing. Get serious and prove you want to be in there or else you don't deserve a rematch. Let Floyd have the money, but you get serious or your legacy is dumped on. A final chance. That is all. I am back to my Manny imposed exile on main street.

Floyd Mayweather will never allow himself to lose to a non-black fighter

Pac-Man was the honourary white man for the night and he was beaten and the same would happen again.

@walrus !! What are you doing?? Give me that stick!!
Shame on you!!

Here.... use this instead.

[Beanflicker]

Floyd Mayweather will never allow himself to lose to a non-black fighter

Pac-Man was the honourary white man for the night and he was beaten and the same would happen again.

To be honest, I see Floyd as the modern day Rosa Parks.

Over the years the white (and jewish) man has been telling Floyd to get to the back of the bus, trying to tell him what he can and can't do, to stay in line, not rock the boat and stay subservient to the white regime. Floyd defiantly said "fuck you, not only am I sitting up front, now I own the bus and I'm the boss, so pay me!" He's proof that you can accomplish anything with a lot of hard work and dedication.

[Andre]

I know I am in a self imposed exile and that shall be duly continued once I have got this off of my chest.

Watching the fight live, I just thought Manny was shot. What is shot? It is being unable to get your punches off, suddenly losing your step etc. With all that has now come out, it seems Manny isn't shot, but was clearly injured. There is no other reason why the most active fighter Floyd has faced would throw the least and land some of the least. It wasn't Floyd at 38 suddenly becoming a master again. That is poppycock.

I also believe Floyd did know about the injury and in the early rounds every time there in close, Floyd made a grab at the arm and gave it a tug. At one point I shouted at the TV, 'is he trying to break an arm Tyson style?' It was so obvious and when it came out about the arm after the fight, it all clicked into place. Floyd clearly knew what he was doing.

Manny is a fool for going along with it all for the money as Floyd is not Morales or Marquez, he isn't in it for the glory and the boxing. It's opportunism and that alone. He will have to give up a lot to fight Floyd and he should. However, he deserves a rematch and if there is money then it would make sense. Fuck a Cotto rematch at 160. I couldn't give a damn about that. Manny can beat Floyd and I still believe that.

Rematch before the end of the year. Give up the singing and playing and heal and get back to work. You have a job to do Manny Pacquiao. Also quit the smiling and posing, that has also left a sour taste after that showing. Get serious and prove you want to be in there or else you don't deserve a rematch. Let Floyd have the money, but you get serious or your legacy is dumped on. A final chance. That is all. I am back to my Manny imposed exile on main street.

Floyd Mayweather will never allow himself to lose to a non-black fighter

Pac-Man was the honourary white man for the night and he was beaten and the same would happen again.

For the religious among us, this equates to: GOD is black.

[Andre]

If you want to invest into all this again I have a bridge that is a fantastic prospect, just email me and ill let you know all the details cheers.

[Gandalf]

I just cannot help myself with my addictive, narcissistic personality and all. You know, Andre. I feel really bad for all those people who spent a lot of money on the PPV, the tickets, even paying for a flipping weigh in just to have Manny grinning in the ring and then moaning about a shoulder injury afterwards. How can you grin in the ring and then claim an injury? You should be furious, angry, driven if you fight or else more sensible in calling it off if you are injured. Manny has only himself to blame in that regard. I think he has done a giant poop on himself and his reputation with this. However, that was far from the Manny Pac we have seen over the years, it wasn't even close and I think that was obvious. In terms of aesthetics I want to see the best against the best at their best and when one fighter is disabled, it really does detract from it all.

Personally, I don't care for the circus or the money. I watched the fight for free, I am not massively invested in either fighter, but I want to see the best fight the best. Heck, Manny should do it for free if he is serious. I've never understood why people get so interested in the money side of things. As a man you have to make a point and that is all it ever comes down to for me. There is more to life than pantomime and money and in this instance I want to see a man with two arms fight another man with two arms. Let the greedy take all the money, it would also show us what really motivates Manny Pac too. Legacy or money? He needs to rise from the dead and money should not be the object, it should be faith. Manny lost a lot of faith with the performance and by taking the money with an obvious injury he needs to redeem himself.

I'm not so sure Floyd feels the same having banked his 200,000,000 million on the back of an easy nights work. Why take the risk, eh? It was already taken and a free injury too. Floyd is no Barrera or Morales.

[walrus]

Nice to hear from you Miles, I admire you taking the hit for we Pactards. I call myself that but I do much admire Floyd. If this stuff is true, that Mannys injury played a major part in his poor showing then a rematch might be interesting but I'm not sure, Manny already said he thought he won the fight so it looks like he is trying to have it both ways. I think it will come down to Money. If the powers that be think a rematch will generate big bucks I guess it's possible, but if the injury is real and Manny needs surgery they are talking about him being out for nine months. In the end, I think Manny should just chalk this up to the loss it was, get himself fixed up and decide if he should continue fighting.

[Gandalf]

I had the fight even at the half way mark, but Manny did diddly squat in the second half. Even early he showed little fire, his combo's were ragged, his footwork was poor. Manny seemed to be asleep in the first round and all that grinning. Where was the anger, the fury, the will? That was a poor imitation of Manny Pac, but it wasn't just physical. The grinning and complicity in fighting a Mayweather type of fight suggested that mentally Manny wasn't up for the job. Just maybe this is a man who is too rich, too comfortable, too in love with his life, and it maybe wasn't just a physical injury. I don't know. Maybe he was resigned because of the injury, but to take that money knowing that? I couldn't rest easy knowing I had duped so many. Manny certainly hasn't been looking to seek and destroy for a long time now and that was one of the lamest assaults on Mayweather ever seen. Manny needs to look in the mirror, stop smiling and ask A LOT of questions. He is nearly 37. If he doesn't have it then walk away, but if he has then lay it on the line and show the world and do it for enough money to cover his team and just know he gave it his best shot. It's time for some post Clubber Laing evaluation. Jinkee needs to do an Adrien, look him in the eye and say 'Manny, what do you want?'.

[walrus]

I don't know, in baseball we call playing with an injury being game. Had Manny postponed the fight this forum would have been full of calling him chicken. Plus, if he would've had surgery prior to the fight you are looking at a year's delay.I've played baseball with stitches and broken ribs and a fractured collar bone. Not saying Manny did the right thing but if you were talking about surgery and a nine month lay off it would be a hard choice. I don't know the proper answer, just running it through my mind.

[Gandalf]

Yeah, Pac is injured. A tear in the shoulder and out for up to a year. This is Klitschko/Byrd style bad and maybe I have been too harsh on Manny. It's tough and rough and a shame. Well, there you go. Fight of the Century....not really. I guess no rematch, but the fight answered NO questions and Floyd Mayweather is as much a Manny crusher as Byrd is a Vitali destroyer. Best against best my opinion is the same, but I guess we will never find out. I laugh at suggestions that Floyd is the best ever. Pfft. Not even close. I guess Chris Byrd is those top 3 all time HW lists too! Bwahahahaa!

Manny Pacquiao to have surgery on "significant tear" of rotator cuff in right shoulder

I shall return when Manny's next fight is announced. I shall contact him, offer him political advice, English lessons, and help him with the next propaganda initiative. Could it be an Ali style comeback? After all, Ali lost to Frazier first time out. A real man offers a rematch. If not for the humanity.....then for the money.

[greynotsoold]

Buddy McGirt fought for a long time and beat many good fighters with a wrecked left shoulder; he nearly beat Whitaker in their first fight with just a right hand.
He was able to do that because he used his brains and his feet to control distance, even against a guy smart like Whitaker.
PAC is fast and, if you stand there and let him, throws a lot of punches. He lacks smarts and has weak feet.

[corvette]

Nice to hear from you Miles, I admire you taking the hit for we Pactards. I call myself that but I do much admire Floyd. If this stuff is true, that Mannys injury played a major part in his poor showing then a rematch might be interesting but I'm not sure, Manny already said he thought he won the fight so it looks like he is trying to have it both ways. I think it will come down to Money. If the powers that be think a rematch will generate big bucks I guess it's possible, but if the injury is real and Manny needs surgery they are talking about him being out for nine months. In the end, I think Manny should just chalk this up to the loss it was, get himself fixed up and decide if he should continue fighting.

Swtich it around.

Would you believe any of this if it were Mayweather taking pictures in a sling.?

Just switch it around the other way.

I'm sure you'd be calling him a sore-losing bitch.

Pac didn't say shit about his shoulder during the post fight interview.
He came back a day later with an excuse....like a dirty cop.....

When other fighters get hurt during a bout they ALWAYS mention it right after the fight....not the next day.


Mayweather didn't wait the next day when he hurt his shoulder against Castillo.