Top Rank getting sued

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I heard about this today, seems like a massive grey area here. What kind of rules are there about disclosing injuries, does a fighter have to come forward if they have one? If so, how severe would it have to be, would the fight not then have to be postponed outright? How many fighters have covered up injuries and fought on to win, how many have come out saying they were injured only after a loss? It seems like this is only coming to light because so much money was put up on the fight, when in reality that shouldn't make any difference as far as a precedent. What if a fighter half asses it and doesn't train hard, is he then liable to be sued for people who lost money on him as well? Way to many cans of worms this could open.

Bottom line is people who bet on Pacquiao didn't know shit about boxing and deserved to lose their money

They are required by law to disclose the injury. That's why Pac is facing suspension. It's fraud. How hard somebody trains is different, they don't sign something saying they trained hard and "hard" is variable. He wrote on his medical form that he had no injury to his shoulder and signed it. Completely different. All he had to do was check the box about shoulder injury and write partial separation in the line and he could have fought, got his shot he wanted, avoided all the drama.

It's open and shut that it is fraud. The question is can they defend his fraud. Already Koncz is taking the blame to try to lessen possible issues, but Pac signed off so he is responsible. I think they will use the 2nd language to get around the problem and Koncz will get a fine and suspension. Manny a fine and a suspension shorter than the time he will be out injured. And the suits will probably be dismissed but it will still cost heavy in legal fees because the plaintiffs are right. So it will take good lawyering.

Fair enough, I wen't on a big of a tangent. So say he had signed off on the form declaring he had an injury, is the commission then required to make that information public, for potential betters to see in time? Unless the injury was so bad he couldn't fight(it clearly wasn't) then maybe it's just tough shit? Don't exactly shed tears for people who lose money gambling in any fashion, mind you. Wagering on boxing is pretty much asking to get fucked over when you take everything into consideration.

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I heard about this today, seems like a massive grey area here. What kind of rules are there about disclosing injuries, does a fighter have to come forward if they have one? If so, how severe would it have to be, would the fight not then have to be postponed outright? How many fighters have covered up injuries and fought on to win, how many have come out saying they were injured only after a loss? It seems like this is only coming to light because so much money was put up on the fight, when in reality that shouldn't make any difference as far as a precedent. What if a fighter half asses it and doesn't train hard, is he then liable to be sued for people who lost money on him as well? Way to many cans of worms this could open.

Bottom line is people who bet on Pacquiao didn't know shit about boxing and deserved to lose their money

They are required by law to disclose the injury. That's why Pac is facing suspension. It's fraud. How hard somebody trains is different, they don't sign something saying they trained hard and "hard" is variable. He wrote on his medical form that he had no injury to his shoulder and signed it. Completely different. All he had to do was check the box about shoulder injury and write partial separation in the line and he could have fought, got his shot he wanted, avoided all the drama.

It's open and shut that it is fraud. The question is can they defend his fraud. Already Koncz is taking the blame to try to lessen possible issues, but Pac signed off so he is responsible. I think they will use the 2nd language to get around the problem and Koncz will get a fine and suspension. Manny a fine and a suspension shorter than the time he will be out injured. And the suits will probably be dismissed but it will still cost heavy in legal fees because the plaintiffs are right. So it will take good lawyering.

Fair enough, I wen't on a big of a tangent. So say he had signed off on the form declaring he had an injury, is the commission then required to make that information public, for potential betters to see in time? Unless the injury was so bad he couldn't fight(it clearly wasn't) then maybe it's just tough shit? Don't exactly shed tears for people who lose money gambling in any fashion, mind you. Wagering on boxing is pretty much asking to get fucked over when you take everything into consideration.

The committee said they were made aware of the injury at 6:08 or 6:30 The reason he didn't get the shot was not because of not checking the box but because the commission didn't have time to review the MRI. They have now seen them. Doesn't excuse Manny not checking the box although in the article it says TR filled it out and didn't check the box. Bottom line is it should have been checked no matter who filled it out. Manny shouldn't be allowing others to sign or fill out his papers if that is indeed what happened.