Wlad's performance against Jennings proves he is mediocre

[ono]

I always wonder how a 147lb version of him would do in the current welterweight division. And then I think he wouldn't be in the top ten. This is why I can't understand people having him in their p4p rankings.

Yes he's dominated the Heavyweight division for the last 10 years, but the opposition is laughable for top level boxing.

[brocktonblockbust]

he admitted in an interview to an old lady with glasses who works for Fox Sports that his strategy is just to wait and wait and wait and tie up and tire out his opponent and then go for the late knockout

[erics44]

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[Freedom]

he admitted in an interview to an old lady with glasses who works for Fox Sports that his strategy is just to wait and wait and wait and tie up and tire out his opponent and then go for the late knockout

You mean like Ali used to do?

[brocktonblockbust]

he admitted in an interview to an old lady with glasses who works for Fox Sports that his strategy is just to wait and wait and wait and tie up and tire out his opponent and then go for the late knockout

You mean like Ali used to do?

bwAAAAAAHAHAHA EXACTLY. Ali should've lost dozens of points for grabbing behind the neck. He grabbed Foreman so many times behind the neck we all lost count by the 5th round.

[El Kabong]

I always wonder how a 147lb version of him would do in the current welterweight division. And then I think he wouldn't be in the top ten. This is why I can't understand people having him in their p4p rankings.

Yes he's dominated the Heavyweight division for the last 10 years, but the opposition is laughable for top level boxing.

A 147 lb version of Wlad would do just fine given he still had height and reach advantages because that's the basis for his tactics. He started out boxing in a crouch under the late Fritz Sdunek. Sdunek had him as a pressure fighter much like Freddie Roach attempted to make him and there was kind of an argument about that style when Wlad was saying Roach tried to make him into a 6'6 Mike Tyson thereby NOT playing to his strengths at all. Sure Wlad has the handspeed and power to use such a style, but it puts him in a position where it's easier not harder to hit him....not a bright move in boxing. Manny Steward's style which Wlad still uses has been great and to argue against that is idiotic, I mean ANY argument against Manny's tactics for Wlad would be asinine because look where it's gotten him. He was good before, now he's great.

The opposition is laughable? Wlad has beaten any number of former Olympians and undefeated heavyweights, and again you can't blame Wlad for other fighters not being as good as him.

[erics44]

I always wonder how a 147lb version of him would do in the current welterweight division. And then I think he wouldn't be in the top ten. This is why I can't understand people having him in their p4p rankings.

Yes he's dominated the Heavyweight division for the last 10 years, but the opposition is laughable for top level boxing.

A 147 lb version of Wlad would do just fine given he still had height and reach advantages because that's the basis for his tactics. He started out boxing in a crouch under the late Fritz Sdunek. Sdunek had him as a pressure fighter much like Freddie Roach attempted to make him and there was kind of an argument about that style when Wlad was saying Roach tried to make him into a 6'6 Mike Tyson thereby NOT playing to his strengths at all. Sure Wlad has the handspeed and power to use such a style, but it puts him in a position where it's easier not harder to hit him....not a bright move in boxing. Manny Steward's style which Wlad still uses has been great and to argue against that is idiotic, I mean ANY argument against Manny's tactics for Wlad would be asinine because look where it's gotten him. He was good before, now he's great.

The opposition is laughable? Wlad has beaten any number of former Olympians and undefeated heavyweights, and again you can't blame Wlad for other fighters not being as good as him.

the basis of his tactics is holding and leaning

his height and reach just help him hold and lean better

[ono]

I always wonder how a 147lb version of him would do in the current welterweight division. And then I think he wouldn't be in the top ten. This is why I can't understand people having him in their p4p rankings.

Yes he's dominated the Heavyweight division for the last 10 years, but the opposition is laughable for top level boxing.

A 147 lb version of Wlad would do just fine given he still had height and reach advantages because that's the basis for his tactics. He started out boxing in a crouch under the late Fritz Sdunek. Sdunek had him as a pressure fighter much like Freddie Roach attempted to make him and there was kind of an argument about that style when Wlad was saying Roach tried to make him into a 6'6 Mike Tyson thereby NOT playing to his strengths at all. Sure Wlad has the handspeed and power to use such a style, but it puts him in a position where it's easier not harder to hit him....not a bright move in boxing. Manny Steward's style which Wlad still uses has been great and to argue against that is idiotic, I mean ANY argument against Manny's tactics for Wlad would be asinine because look where it's gotten him. He was good before, now he's great.

The opposition is laughable? Wlad has beaten any number of former Olympians and undefeated heavyweights, and again you can't blame Wlad for other fighters not being as good as him.

I know he can only beat what's in front of him, but Heavyweight Boxing has become a joke, considering it's supposed to be the premier division of such a popular and lucrative sport.

Would Rafael Nadal be held in the same regard as the likes of Sampras, Borg or Laver ifall his main rivals from the present era were 2 stone overweight? Wlad's problem is, we will never know how good he really is because the opposition just hasn't been there. How many future Hall of Famers has he beat? Again. not his fault, but when people are saying that he is mediocre, i think they are doing that comparably to the dominant heavyweight fighters of past generations, and i think they are correct.

Honestly, beating undefeated Heavyweight's and ex-olympians in today's era means zero. Audley Harrison was an Olympic Champion for god's sake.

[El Kabong]

I always wonder how a 147lb version of him would do in the current welterweight division. And then I think he wouldn't be in the top ten. This is why I can't understand people having him in their p4p rankings.

Yes he's dominated the Heavyweight division for the last 10 years, but the opposition is laughable for top level boxing.

A 147 lb version of Wlad would do just fine given he still had height and reach advantages because that's the basis for his tactics. He started out boxing in a crouch under the late Fritz Sdunek. Sdunek had him as a pressure fighter much like Freddie Roach attempted to make him and there was kind of an argument about that style when Wlad was saying Roach tried to make him into a 6'6 Mike Tyson thereby NOT playing to his strengths at all. Sure Wlad has the handspeed and power to use such a style, but it puts him in a position where it's easier not harder to hit him....not a bright move in boxing. Manny Steward's style which Wlad still uses has been great and to argue against that is idiotic, I mean ANY argument against Manny's tactics for Wlad would be asinine because look where it's gotten him. He was good before, now he's great.

The opposition is laughable? Wlad has beaten any number of former Olympians and undefeated heavyweights, and again you can't blame Wlad for other fighters not being as good as him.

I know he can only beat what's in front of him, but Heavyweight Boxing has become a joke, considering it's supposed to be the premier division of such a popular and lucrative sport.

Would Rafael Nadal be held in the same regard as the likes of Sampras, Borg or Laver ifall his main rivals from the present era were 2 stone overweight? Wlad's problem is, we will never know how good he really is because the opposition just hasn't been there. How many future Hall of Famers has he beat? Again. not his fault, but when people are saying that he is mediocre, i think they are doing that comparably to the dominant heavyweight fighters of past generations, and i think they are correct.

Honestly, beating undefeated Heavyweight's and ex-olympians in today's era means zero. Audley Harrison was an Olympic Champion for god's sake.

Maybe Wlad should train his opposition and teach them how to beat him then? The heavyweights in the division like it or not are PROFESSIONAL ATHLETES no different than Wlad, only Wlad respects the sport and the fans enough to come in to every fight in shape.


Audley Harrison was also a fully developed man fighting guys in their teens and early 20's. Wlad won Gold, Povetkin won Gold....it means they have good amateur pedigrees but that doesn't automatically mean they'll be great in the pros. Look at Solis, he ruined his professional career.