Warning to Joshua

[Dark Lord Al]

Look guys Joshua has not put a foot wrong so far , why is anyone negative about him ?
Let swait and see how it pans out before we judge him.

Im not judging him per se but his managements choice of opponents. Its like they are assuming he has everything he needs and doesnt need to learn anything and are just building a fan base rather than a good fighter.

Well only time will tell.

[smashup]

Good points Ross

I know Joshua's cousin owns a Gym and is involved still and was involved in bulking AJ up years ago and even the sky sports team have picked up on this, he showed good hand speed before and definitely wants to keep that in his Arsenal.

Anyone else think this is a worry?

[Master]

We have moved to the US model with Sky having ppv fights and destroying the mainstream fans of boxing.

You can see they are creating Antony Joshua for the ppv market which is why part of me would love him to come crashing down like Khan has.

[Dark Lord Al]

We have moved to the US model with Sky having ppv fights and destroying the mainstream fans of boxing.

You can see they are creating Antony Joshua for the ppv market which is why part of me would love him to come crashing down like Khan has.

Just buy the PPV if you want to watch it.
Don't buy it if you don't want to .

[Master]

We have moved to the US model with Sky having ppv fights and destroying the mainstream fans of boxing.

You can see they are creating Antony Joshua for the ppv market which is why part of me would love him to come crashing down like Khan has.

Just buy the PPV if you want to watch it.
Don't buy it if you don't want to .

The manufacturing of him to be the next big thing when so far he has shown some promise does not mean he should be ppv.

[Mark TKO]

Hang on - this one's a box office event ?!?

wtf

[Master]

Hang on - this one's a box office event ?!?

wtf

[ross]

Good points Ross

I know Joshua's cousin owns a Gym and is involved still and was involved in bulking AJ up years ago and even the sky sports team have picked up on this, he showed good hand speed before and definitely wants to keep that in his Arsenal.

Anyone else think this is a worry?

He was 230lb on his pro debut.

He is now 18lb heavier! Even for someone his size thats a lot of muscle to put on!

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Good points Ross

I know Joshua's cousin owns a Gym and is involved still and was involved in bulking AJ up years ago and even the sky sports team have picked up on this, he showed good hand speed before and definitely wants to keep that in his Arsenal.

Anyone else think this is a worry?

He was 230lb on his pro debut.

He is now 18lb heavier! Even for someone his size thats a lot of muscle to put on!

Ultimately, it depends on his bone thickness. Can't say either way, as I can't find a read on his wrist thickness (best indication of bone thickness), but if the bones are big enough and his bone marrow can supply an adequate amount of red blood sells to fuel his muscles then the stamina issue is okay.

Mobility on the other hand; well I suspect the stiffness is already present, so I doubt we'll ever see a fluid-looking Joshua, unless he balances his workouts.

With regards to the fight - I think despite the obvious jump in 'class', I don't see Johnson as an upset kind of guy.
Joshua could well look terrible but I still think Johnson, for all his showmanship outside of the ring, is a missive let-down inside of the ring and will never achieve any kind of genuine success ever again.

He'll find a way to fall short.

[Silkeyjoe]

Good points Ross

I know Joshua's cousin owns a Gym and is involved still and was involved in bulking AJ up years ago and even the sky sports team have picked up on this, he showed good hand speed before and definitely wants to keep that in his Arsenal.

Anyone else think this is a worry?

He was 230lb on his pro debut.

He is now 18lb heavier! Even for someone his size thats a lot of muscle to put on!

a 7 - 8% increase in weight in the 2-3 years after turning pro would seem normal to me for a guy of his stature. Fat heavyweights (like Fury was) you would expect them to decrease weight first (losing fat) before putting some weight back on (muscle building). Wlad was 220 in his first pro fight and two years later was 235. He was a bit younger than Joshua though but 2 years after that he was coming in at 245.Once hes not purely focusing on weight training and doing stamina work too hell be fine.

[Fenster]

Whether or not it's a PPV depends on what type of boxing fan you are. Personally I much prefer to pay 20 quid for half-a-dozen 50-50-ish title fights than say May/Pac, where you had one fight with no undercard (Cruz/Loma in gimmes).

In fact I didn't buy May/Pac but I will gladly buy this (and hopefully make the bookies pay for the PPV several, several times over).

If you've never heard of bods like Selby, Linares, Gradovich, Johnson, Ryder etc then obviously it means nothing.

[ross]

Good points Ross

I know Joshua's cousin owns a Gym and is involved still and was involved in bulking AJ up years ago and even the sky sports team have picked up on this, he showed good hand speed before and definitely wants to keep that in his Arsenal.

Anyone else think this is a worry?

He was 230lb on his pro debut.

He is now 18lb heavier! Even for someone his size thats a lot of muscle to put on!

a 7 - 8% increase in weight in the 2-3 years after turning pro would seem normal to me for a guy of his stature. Fat heavyweights (like Fury was) you would expect them to decrease weight first (losing fat) before putting some weight back on (muscle building). Wlad was 220 in his first pro fight and two years later was 235. He was a bit younger than Joshua though but 2 years after that he was coming in at 245.Once hes not purely focusing on weight training and doing stamina work too hell be fine.

Your basing that weight increase on his total body weight. Its only his muscles that have got heavier, not his bones or organs. So then its a bigger percentage of muscle increase which is massive and will do nothing for him as a championship distance fighter.

I guarantee you after this fight or against someone who will make him work over the distance that his weight training will be brought up as a reason he has stamina problems over the distance. He fines doing the amateur distance but wait until hes made to work past 4 rounds. He will end up like Haye, Price and Bruno. To be a better fighter he will have to change trainers because its clear hes spending too much effort on body building. 18lb of muscle when you are already big is a big increase and thats not from circuits, sprints, bag work, sparring, even general weights etc, he has been trying to put muscle on amd I dont think its been for any operational reason, just for his ego but it will come back to bite him and hearn in the ass.

Like I said, they havent been building a good fighter, just a fan base who will pay for pay per views.

[Mark TKO]

I could live with the 20 quid every few months if I didn't have sky sports subscription I guess. When you've got that too it's like saying here's some extra sport you need to fork out for

[Master]

I could live with the 20 quid every few months if I didn't have sky sports subscription I guess. When you've got that too it's like saying here's some extra sport you need to fork out for

For once Mark TKO is talking sense why bother having a sports subscription when you pay extra for 2 ppv in one month? Joke.