Warning to Joshua

[Dark Lord Al]

Look guys Joshua has not put a foot wrong so far , why is anyone negative about him ?
Let swait and see how it pans out before we judge him.

Im not judging him per se but his managements choice of opponents. Its like they are assuming he has everything he needs and doesnt need to learn anything and are just building a fan base rather than a good fighter.

Well only time will tell.

[Silkeyjoe]

I don't think they'll be much wrong with Joshua's beard. We've seen him go over in the ams and get up blazing back

There's a difference between being chinny and terrified of being hit. Joshua has a confident spiteful streak in him, something that guys like Price are lacking

I dont think its even so much the punch resistance of Joshua but can he actually fight back over the distance in the pros. Hes getting bulkier muscle wise and thats all going to burn energy.

Yes because hes not a fat mess hell struggle to go the distance. Nice logic as always Ross.

[ross]

I don't think they'll be much wrong with Joshua's beard. We've seen him go over in the ams and get up blazing back

There's a difference between being chinny and terrified of being hit. Joshua has a confident spiteful streak in him, something that guys like Price are lacking

I dont think its even so much the punch resistance of Joshua but can he actually fight back over the distance in the pros. Hes getting bulkier muscle wise and thats all going to burn energy.

Yes because hes not a fat mess hell struggle to go the distance. Nice logic as always Ross.

Look at his weights. The facts.

Bakhtov 236
Sprott 240
Gavern 245
Love 248

Hes progressively getting heavier muscled, hes put 12lb on over the last 7 months because his trainer is obviously making him or allowing him to continue to body build. Hes not that young that his body is still developing, hes purposefully putting muscle on for some reason and this will contribute to him tiring over the distance as well as the poor opposition not preparing him or putting him under pressure.

Hes going the same way Haye did going in the Carl Thompson fight.

[smashup]

Good points Ross

I know Joshua's cousin owns a Gym and is involved still and was involved in bulking AJ up years ago and even the sky sports team have picked up on this, he showed good hand speed before and definitely wants to keep that in his Arsenal.

Anyone else think this is a worry?

[Master]

We have moved to the US model with Sky having ppv fights and destroying the mainstream fans of boxing.

You can see they are creating Antony Joshua for the ppv market which is why part of me would love him to come crashing down like Khan has.

[Dark Lord Al]

We have moved to the US model with Sky having ppv fights and destroying the mainstream fans of boxing.

You can see they are creating Antony Joshua for the ppv market which is why part of me would love him to come crashing down like Khan has.

Just buy the PPV if you want to watch it.
Don't buy it if you don't want to .

[ross]

Good points Ross

I know Joshua's cousin owns a Gym and is involved still and was involved in bulking AJ up years ago and even the sky sports team have picked up on this, he showed good hand speed before and definitely wants to keep that in his Arsenal.

Anyone else think this is a worry?

He was 230lb on his pro debut.

He is now 18lb heavier! Even for someone his size thats a lot of muscle to put on!

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Good points Ross

I know Joshua's cousin owns a Gym and is involved still and was involved in bulking AJ up years ago and even the sky sports team have picked up on this, he showed good hand speed before and definitely wants to keep that in his Arsenal.

Anyone else think this is a worry?

He was 230lb on his pro debut.

He is now 18lb heavier! Even for someone his size thats a lot of muscle to put on!

Ultimately, it depends on his bone thickness. Can't say either way, as I can't find a read on his wrist thickness (best indication of bone thickness), but if the bones are big enough and his bone marrow can supply an adequate amount of red blood sells to fuel his muscles then the stamina issue is okay.

Mobility on the other hand; well I suspect the stiffness is already present, so I doubt we'll ever see a fluid-looking Joshua, unless he balances his workouts.

With regards to the fight - I think despite the obvious jump in 'class', I don't see Johnson as an upset kind of guy.
Joshua could well look terrible but I still think Johnson, for all his showmanship outside of the ring, is a missive let-down inside of the ring and will never achieve any kind of genuine success ever again.

He'll find a way to fall short.

[Master]

We have moved to the US model with Sky having ppv fights and destroying the mainstream fans of boxing.

You can see they are creating Antony Joshua for the ppv market which is why part of me would love him to come crashing down like Khan has.

Just buy the PPV if you want to watch it.
Don't buy it if you don't want to .

The manufacturing of him to be the next big thing when so far he has shown some promise does not mean he should be ppv.

[Mark TKO]

Hang on - this one's a box office event ?!?

wtf

[Master]

Hang on - this one's a box office event ?!?

wtf

[Arvid_85]

Joshuas structure of the skull tells me he has the fragile type of chin. Its pretty small and not a strong face, I guess he will fall hard if someone with a bang connect.

[Mark TKO]

still not right it's ppv

[Silkeyjoe]

Good points Ross

I know Joshua's cousin owns a Gym and is involved still and was involved in bulking AJ up years ago and even the sky sports team have picked up on this, he showed good hand speed before and definitely wants to keep that in his Arsenal.

Anyone else think this is a worry?

He was 230lb on his pro debut.

He is now 18lb heavier! Even for someone his size thats a lot of muscle to put on!

a 7 - 8% increase in weight in the 2-3 years after turning pro would seem normal to me for a guy of his stature. Fat heavyweights (like Fury was) you would expect them to decrease weight first (losing fat) before putting some weight back on (muscle building). Wlad was 220 in his first pro fight and two years later was 235. He was a bit younger than Joshua though but 2 years after that he was coming in at 245.Once hes not purely focusing on weight training and doing stamina work too hell be fine.

[Fenster]

Whether or not it's a PPV depends on what type of boxing fan you are. Personally I much prefer to pay 20 quid for half-a-dozen 50-50-ish title fights than say May/Pac, where you had one fight with no undercard (Cruz/Loma in gimmes).

In fact I didn't buy May/Pac but I will gladly buy this (and hopefully make the bookies pay for the PPV several, several times over).

If you've never heard of bods like Selby, Linares, Gradovich, Johnson, Ryder etc then obviously it means nothing.