Great Boxers are AUTOMATICALLY exciting: agree or disagree?

[fan johnny]

Boring is just a new way to discredit people that refuse to lose. Can't beat them, they must be good. But in this era we keep trying to find new ways to bring a man down.

If you don't like how a man fights, don't watch them. I don't enjoy the face first fighters everyone says "....is always in a good fight". I disagree and say they are never in a good fight. So I don't watch face first fighters. I like a high action fight like Hagler/Hearns but Ward/Gatti bores me to sleep. Who can take more punishment is not exciting boxing to me. I want to see all skills displayed first, if it turns into a war that's gravy.

BS, a boring boxer does not = a great boxer. When Chris John found and beat Marquez he was not only boring. Not trying to discredit the guy, he's just not a great fighter.

[brocktonblockbust]

fighters who bore the public every time are NOT true greats. Look at the thrilling fights Marciano gave us
Look at the thrillers that Holyfield and Tyson and Bowe gave us..........Pryor and Duran and Leonard....

ooooh, Aaron The Hawk Pryor............... oooooooooooooh

[Ron Swanson]

Boring is just a new way to discredit people that refuse to lose. Can't beat them, they must be good. But in this era we keep trying to find new ways to bring a man down.

If you don't like how a man fights, don't watch them. I don't enjoy the face first fighters everyone says "....is always in a good fight". I disagree and say they are never in a good fight. So I don't watch face first fighters. I like a high action fight like Hagler/Hearns but Ward/Gatti bores me to sleep. Who can take more punishment is not exciting boxing to me. I want to see all skills displayed first, if it turns into a war that's gravy.

BS, a boring boxer does not = a great boxer. When Chris John found and beat Marquez he was not only boring. Not trying to discredit the guy, he's just not a great fighter.

It's probably BS because it's not what I said.

[fan johnny]

Boring is just a new way to discredit people that refuse to lose. Can't beat them, they must be good. But in this era we keep trying to find new ways to bring a man down.

If you don't like how a man fights, don't watch them. I don't enjoy the face first fighters everyone says "....is always in a good fight". I disagree and say they are never in a good fight. So I don't watch face first fighters. I like a high action fight like Hagler/Hearns but Ward/Gatti bores me to sleep. Who can take more punishment is not exciting boxing to me. I want to see all skills displayed first, if it turns into a war that's gravy.

BS, a boring boxer does not = a great boxer. When Chris John found and beat Marquez he was not only boring. Not trying to discredit the guy, he's just not a great fighter.

It's probably BS because it's not what I said.

Maybe you can focus more on what is BS.

[Ron Swanson]

Boring is just a new way to discredit people that refuse to lose. Can't beat them, they must be good. But in this era we keep trying to find new ways to bring a man down.

If you don't like how a man fights, don't watch them. I don't enjoy the face first fighters everyone says "....is always in a good fight". I disagree and say they are never in a good fight. So I don't watch face first fighters. I like a high action fight like Hagler/Hearns but Ward/Gatti bores me to sleep. Who can take more punishment is not exciting boxing to me. I want to see all skills displayed first, if it turns into a war that's gravy.

BS, a boring boxer does not = a great boxer. When Chris John found and beat Marquez he was not only boring. Not trying to discredit the guy, he's just not a great fighter.

It's probably BS because it's not what I said.

Maybe you can focus more on what is BS.

I never said a boring boxer = a great boxer. That's what's BS, because I didn't even say anything remotely close to that.

The problem today is people look for so many ways to prove they are right "he had 6 FOTY fights, he was champion in X weight classes etcetera". You have those and people keep adding more and more and more. Exciting? Where does that come into play in a fight? You entertain the crowd to earn more money, you fight to win the fight. Clearly winning the fight is the goal. Exciting is secondary.

this thread makes me think of the saying "I can't define Porn but I know it when I see it". Greatness is like that, it can't be defined because it varies. You can't lay out a series of qualifiers and say "meeting this criteria you are great", that's silly. Arturro Gatti was not a great boxer, but he achieved greatness in boxing. That's how far outside definition the sport is, you can not be great and be great. Or you can be great and not be great.(G-Man, Meldrick Taylor)

People can try all they want but the sport is too subtle for rigid clarifications, that's what makes it the sweet science.

[Bill Paxtom]

What are you saying Ron Swanson.

You're all over the place.