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    Default Re: Floyd should have done more.

    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    Fact is Tito just wasn't very good without his illegal wraps.

    Just like Manny isn't that good without his PEDs.



    "First I would like to say that my deputy commissioner and my commissioner did a diligent job that night. The rules are clear and fair. Mr.Trinidad did not violate the rules, that's why there was no suspension. Extra tape and gauze can be applied if the trainers agree and the commission approves, grounds for that will be protection only cause of injury. Under no circumstances can there be double layers of tape,which in this case there was none. The New York State bylaws say you cannot have tape on skin so the commission made them rewrap because of that fact alone." (NY State Athletic Commission Chair Melvina Lathan)





    One of several quotes from authorities on the subject.
    Of course, they may as well be written in Swahili as far as you're concerned, because it doesn't fit your crybaby agenda.

    How sad it is to know that a fighter you hate so much is an ATG and HOF'er.
    Must stick in your craw, huh?

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    Default Re: Floyd should have done more.

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    Fact is Tito just wasn't very good without his illegal wraps.

    Just like Manny isn't that good without his PEDs.



    "First I would like to say that my deputy commissioner and my commissioner did a diligent job that night. The rules are clear and fair. Mr.Trinidad did not violate the rules, that's why there was no suspension. Extra tape and gauze can be applied if the trainers agree and the commission approves, grounds for that will be protection only cause of injury. Under no circumstances can there be double layers of tape,which in this case there was none. The New York State bylaws say you cannot have tape on skin so the commission made them rewrap because of that fact alone." (NY State Athletic Commission Chair Melvina Lathan)





    One of several quotes from authorities on the subject.
    Of course, they may as well be written in Swahili as far as you're concerned, because it doesn't fit your crybaby agenda.

    How sad it is to know that a fighter you hate so much is an ATG and HOF'er.
    Must stick in your craw, huh?
    So his hands were taped and the wraps were applied in a way that did not comply with the rules?

    The rules weren't violated because Hopkins corner member saw the violation while they were applying the wraps and the commission ruled on it and made Papa Trinidad re-wrap the hands.
    Last edited by ruthless rocco; 05-15-2015 at 04:07 AM.

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    Default Re: Floyd should have done more.

    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    Fact is Tito just wasn't very good without his illegal wraps.

    Just like Manny isn't that good without his PEDs.



    "First I would like to say that my deputy commissioner and my commissioner did a diligent job that night. The rules are clear and fair. Mr.Trinidad did not violate the rules, that's why there was no suspension. Extra tape and gauze can be applied if the trainers agree and the commission approves, grounds for that will be protection only cause of injury. Under no circumstances can there be double layers of tape,which in this case there was none. The New York State bylaws say you cannot have tape on skin so the commission made them rewrap because of that fact alone." (NY State Athletic Commission Chair Melvina Lathan)





    One of several quotes from authorities on the subject.
    Of course, they may as well be written in Swahili as far as you're concerned, because it doesn't fit your crybaby agenda.

    How sad it is to know that a fighter you hate so much is an ATG and HOF'er.
    Must stick in your craw, huh?
    So his hands were taped and the wraps were applied in a way that did not comply with the rules?

    The rules weren't violated because Hopkins corner member saw the violation while they were applying the wraps and the commission ruled on it and made Papa Trinidad re-wrap the hands.
    Rocco, take your A.D.D. meds n try n focus. Topic is Floyd doing more vs Manny two weeks ago, not the legalities of Titos hand wraps in New York back in 2001. Try and stay on topic.

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    Default Re: Floyd should have done more.

    Quote Originally Posted by mikeeod View Post
    Rocco, take your A.D.D. meds n try n focus. Topic is Floyd doing more vs Manny two weeks ago, not the legalities of Titos hand wraps in New York back in 2001. Try and stay on topic.
    It's nice for you to re-join the conversation @mikeeod. Here's my last post that you never addressed Pactard.

    Floyd fought differently 15 years ago when he was younger. He is 39 years old now. and was fighting the fighter of the decade, the guy that was supposed to destroy him. The guy who 80% of the public thought was going to KO him. It's his prerogative to fight a defensive fight. As the highest paid boxer ever and the highest paid athlete in the world 3 years running his recent style must be enough to satisfy fans otherwise he wouldn't be the money maker that he is.

    YES it's true, Manny has no shoulder injury. He has an ego injury. He has a public image injury. He has an I've been exposed injury, but not a shoulder injury.

    Pacquiao reportedly reinjured his shoulder. The initial injury was from a skiing accident from 2008? Manny's strength and conditioning coach of 5 years, hired in 2008, has gone on record as saying that Manny never had a shoulder injury. This is the man who helped Manny win titles from 130, 35, 140, 147 and 154 pounds. During this time he had fights against Oscar, Hatton, Cotto, Margarito, Mosely, JMM & Bradley. Where were the signs of an injury during any of those fights? Look at the timeline for these fights...Manny never took any time off. When did this alleged injury occur?
    Surgery is a vague term. It can mean as little a a local anesthetic and a small incision and walkout 15 minutes later. So I'm sure Manny had some kind of surgery. I doubt it was invasive or had anything to do with a pre existing shoulder injury.
    His "surgery" was to repair his damaged image in the Philippines and to the gullible public (that's you).

    Bob Arum has a great quote that you may find shocking (since you seem so dim). "Yesterday I was lying, but today I'm telling the truth."

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    Default Re: Floyd should have done more.

    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mikeeod View Post
    Rocco, take your A.D.D. meds n try n focus. Topic is Floyd doing more vs Manny two weeks ago, not the legalities of Titos hand wraps in New York back in 2001. Try and stay on topic.
    It's nice for you to re-join the conversation @mikeeod. Here's my last post that you never addressed Pactard.

    Floyd fought differently 15 years ago when he was younger. He is 39 years old now. and was fighting the fighter of the decade, the guy that was supposed to destroy him. The guy who 80% of the public thought was going to KO him. It's his prerogative to fight a defensive fight. As the highest paid boxer ever and the highest paid athlete in the world 3 years running his recent style must be enough to satisfy fans otherwise he wouldn't be the money maker that he is.

    YES it's true, Manny has no shoulder injury. He has an ego injury. He has a public image injury. He has an I've been exposed injury, but not a shoulder injury.

    Pacquiao reportedly reinjured his shoulder. The initial injury was from a skiing accident from 2008? Manny's strength and conditioning coach of 5 years, hired in 2008, has gone on record as saying that Manny never had a shoulder injury. This is the man who helped Manny win titles from 130, 35, 140, 147 and 154 pounds. During this time he had fights against Oscar, Hatton, Cotto, Margarito, Mosely, JMM & Bradley. Where were the signs of an injury during any of those fights? Look at the timeline for these fights...Manny never took any time off. When did this alleged injury occur?
    Surgery is a vague term. It can mean as little a a local anesthetic and a small incision and walkout 15 minutes later. So I'm sure Manny had some kind of surgery. I doubt it was invasive or had anything to do with a pre existing shoulder injury.
    His "surgery" was to repair his damaged image in the Philippines and to the gullible public (that's you).

    Bob Arum has a great quote that you may find shocking (since you seem so dim). "Yesterday I was lying, but today I'm telling the truth."
    Ruthy, don't take every critique of Floyd as a personal attack on you. We know you hate Manny, it's all good.

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    Default Re: Floyd should have done more.

    I've dealt with unruly brats before..... so I have some training in this sort of thing.

    Okaaaay..... here's your quote:


    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    Bernard was fight a blown up jr welter who had illegal handwraps to give him power his whole career

    Now..... heeeere's part of my previous post:


    Hand wrapping rules vary from state commission to state commission... and the way Trinidad had his hands wrapped were very legal in every other state. New York has different rules..... Naazim Richardson was keen enough to catch that, and had the hand re-wrapped. Here's an interesting article on hand wrapping for you. It seems the issue with hand wrapping spreads to most boxers, who at some point or another face some sort of questioning from the opposite camp.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/13/sp...xing.html?_r=0

    Here's an excerpt from that article you might find interesting as well....


    "Rules vary from state to state. In California, only gauze and surgical adhesive tape are allowed. In Nevada, trainers can apply only gauze, not tape, to skin. But some keys are universal, Roach said, like spreading the gauze evenly across the fingers, or protecting the knuckles with the right amount of padding".



    Richardson himself defended Trinidad from undue criticism by stating as much.... and making a very pronounced distinction between the Trinidad hand wrapping issue and, say..... what Margacheato was convicted of after the Mosley fight.



    Follow me so far?

    Now, you're older than 10, so I presume you're following my train of thought here.

    You mentioned Trinidad had used illegal hand wraps his entire career. Obviously..... you're wrong. I'm saying this for the second time, but again.... I'm being patient with you because you're a bit slow and I always go the extra mile for the mentally-disadvantaged.

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    Default Re: Floyd should have done more.





    I SAID..... Pacquiao is a PED user and Tito used illegal hand wraps.
    I hate Pacquiao and I hate Tito!!!!!!

    Now leave me alone!!!

    Waaahhh!!!!! Waaaaahhhhh!!!!!

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    Default Re: Floyd should have done more.

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    I've dealt with unruly brats before..... so I have some training in this sort of thing.

    Okaaaay..... here's your quote:


    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    Bernard was fight a blown up jr welter who had illegal handwraps to give him power his whole career

    Now..... heeeere's part of my previous post:


    Hand wrapping rules vary from state commission to state commission... and the way Trinidad had his hands wrapped were very legal in every other state. New York has different rules..... Naazim Richardson was keen enough to catch that, and had the hand re-wrapped. Here's an interesting article on hand wrapping for you. It seems the issue with hand wrapping spreads to most boxers, who at some point or another face some sort of questioning from the opposite camp.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/13/sp...xing.html?_r=0

    Here's an excerpt from that article you might find interesting as well....


    "Rules vary from state to state. In California, only gauze and surgical adhesive tape are allowed. In Nevada, trainers can apply only gauze, not tape, to skin. But some keys are universal, Roach said, like spreading the gauze evenly across the fingers, or protecting the knuckles with the right amount of padding".



    Richardson himself defended Trinidad from undue criticism by stating as much.... and making a very pronounced distinction between the Trinidad hand wrapping issue and, say..... what Margacheato was convicted of after the Mosley fight.



    Follow me so far?

    Now, you're older than 10, so I presume you're following my train of thought here.

    You mentioned Trinidad had used illegal hand wraps his entire career. Obviously..... you're wrong. I'm saying this for the second time, but again.... I'm being patient with you because you're a bit slow and I always go the extra mile for the mentally-disadvantaged.
    Papa Trinidad said he wrapped Tito's hands that way for POWER. Without his usual hand wraps he said Tito lacked his power.

    The wraps were illegal in NY every time he fought there. So all his middleweight fights in NY were illegal.

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    Default Re: Floyd should have done more.

    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mikeeod View Post
    Rocco, take your A.D.D. meds n try n focus. Topic is Floyd doing more vs Manny two weeks ago, not the legalities of Titos hand wraps in New York back in 2001. Try and stay on topic.
    It's nice for you to re-join the conversation @mikeeod. Here's my last post that you never addressed Pactard.

    Floyd fought differently 15 years ago when he was younger. He is 39 years old now. and was fighting the fighter of the decade, the guy that was supposed to destroy him. The guy who 80% of the public thought was going to KO him. It's his prerogative to fight a defensive fight. As the highest paid boxer ever and the highest paid athlete in the world 3 years running his recent style must be enough to satisfy fans otherwise he wouldn't be the money maker that he is.

    YES it's true, Manny has no shoulder injury. He has an ego injury. He has a public image injury. He has an I've been exposed injury, but not a shoulder injury.

    Pacquiao reportedly reinjured his shoulder. The initial injury was from a skiing accident from 2008? Manny's strength and conditioning coach of 5 years, hired in 2008, has gone on record as saying that Manny never had a shoulder injury. This is the man who helped Manny win titles from 130, 35, 140, 147 and 154 pounds. During this time he had fights against Oscar, Hatton, Cotto, Margarito, Mosely, JMM & Bradley. Where were the signs of an injury during any of those fights? Look at the timeline for these fights...Manny never took any time off. When did this alleged injury occur?
    Surgery is a vague term. It can mean as little a a local anesthetic and a small incision and walkout 15 minutes later. So I'm sure Manny had some kind of surgery. I doubt it was invasive or had anything to do with a pre existing shoulder injury.
    His "surgery" was to repair his damaged image in the Philippines and to the gullible public (that's you).

    Bob Arum has a great quote that you may find shocking (since you seem so dim). "Yesterday I was lying, but today I'm telling the truth."
    You've just lost even more credibility with me and solidified/confirmed that you are a troll. I have been equally critical of Manny and Floyd, yet you continue to become frustrated and whine like a child and resort to name calling because I don't gush over Floyd like you do. I've already addressed everything in this post numerous times, so what difference will one more make? You will just regurgitate more nonsense and argue a different set of semantics/nuances. Floyd should've done more in that fight than limit Mannys offense, he should've stepped on the gas for the stoppage. Manny was outclassed, there wasn't really any more he could as Floyd is the larger and better fighter.

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    Default Re: Floyd should have done more.

    Quote Originally Posted by mikeeod View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    Fact is Tito just wasn't very good without his illegal wraps.

    Just like Manny isn't that good without his PEDs.



    "First I would like to say that my deputy commissioner and my commissioner did a diligent job that night. The rules are clear and fair. Mr.Trinidad did not violate the rules, that's why there was no suspension. Extra tape and gauze can be applied if the trainers agree and the commission approves, grounds for that will be protection only cause of injury. Under no circumstances can there be double layers of tape,which in this case there was none. The New York State bylaws say you cannot have tape on skin so the commission made them rewrap because of that fact alone." (NY State Athletic Commission Chair Melvina Lathan)





    One of several quotes from authorities on the subject.
    Of course, they may as well be written in Swahili as far as you're concerned, because it doesn't fit your crybaby agenda.

    How sad it is to know that a fighter you hate so much is an ATG and HOF'er.
    Must stick in your craw, huh?
    So his hands were taped and the wraps were applied in a way that did not comply with the rules?

    The rules weren't violated because Hopkins corner member saw the violation while they were applying the wraps and the commission ruled on it and made Papa Trinidad re-wrap the hands.
    Rocco, take your A.D.D. meds n try n focus. Topic is Floyd doing more vs Manny two weeks ago, not the legalities of Titos hand wraps in New York back in 2001. Try and stay on topic.

    rocco

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    Default Re: Floyd should have done more.

    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    Fact is Tito just wasn't very good without his illegal wraps.

    Just like Manny isn't that good without his PEDs.



    "First I would like to say that my deputy commissioner and my commissioner did a diligent job that night. The rules are clear and fair. Mr.Trinidad did not violate the rules, that's why there was no suspension. Extra tape and gauze can be applied if the trainers agree and the commission approves, grounds for that will be protection only cause of injury. Under no circumstances can there be double layers of tape,which in this case there was none. The New York State bylaws say you cannot have tape on skin so the commission made them rewrap because of that fact alone." (NY State Athletic Commission Chair Melvina Lathan)





    One of several quotes from authorities on the subject.
    Of course, they may as well be written in Swahili as far as you're concerned, because it doesn't fit your crybaby agenda.

    How sad it is to know that a fighter you hate so much is an ATG and HOF'er.
    Must stick in your craw, huh?
    So his hands were taped and the wraps were applied in a way that did not comply with the rules?

    The rules weren't violated because Hopkins corner member saw the violation while they were applying the wraps and the commission ruled on it and made Papa Trinidad re-wrap the hands.


    Hand wrapping rules vary from state commission to state commission... and the way Trinidad had his hands wrapped were very legal in every other state. New York has different rules..... Naazim Richardson was keen enough to catch that, and had the hand re-wrapped. Here's an interesting article on hand wrapping for you. It seems the issue with hand wrapping spreads to most boxers, who at some point or another face some sort of questioning from the opposite camp.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/13/sp...xing.html?_r=0

    Here's an excerpt from that article you might find interesting as well....


    "Rules vary from state to state. In California, only gauze and surgical adhesive tape are allowed. In Nevada, trainers can apply only gauze, not tape, to skin. But some keys are universal, Roach said, like spreading the gauze evenly across the fingers, or protecting the knuckles with the right amount of padding".



    Richardson himself defended Trinidad from undue criticism by stating as much.... and making a very pronounced distinction between the Trinidad hand wrapping issue and, say..... what Margacheato was convicted of after the Mosley fight.

    You said Trinidad always had illegal wraps.
    Obviously..... you're dead wrong.
    But don't let the facts stand in your way.


    Again...... none of this fits your agenda. You're a hater. Actually..... you're worse than just a hater. You're a blind hater, who has no use for facts. Fortunately, I'll always be around to show you the error of your ways.

    You're welcome.

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    Default Re: Floyd should have done more.

    So his hands were taped and the wraps were applied in a way that did not comply with the rules?

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    Default Re: Floyd should have done more.

    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    So his hands were taped and the wraps were applied in a way that did not comply with the rules?

    Have you had this tunnel vision syndrome since birth?

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