I have to thank Evander Holyfield!

[ElTerribleMorales]

Who cares that Lennox didn't fight Moorer, Moorer was legendary at lighter weights but he wasn't a great heavyweight? And Foreman was a side show. Don't get me wrong, Foreman could still beat some people, hence Tysons crippling fear of him, but old George wasn't a great either.

And let's not forget your hero Evan Fields was a known steroid cheat.

Doctor Ron,

You are correct on 2 of the above 3 statements. That's batting .667 > which puts you in the
'Hall of Fame'.

But if you think that George Foreman was 'a joke', then you never saw him in Training.

I didn't say joke, I said he wasn't a great anymore. I said side show because more people cared about his age than anything else.

There are very few greats, young George was one of them, I'm not going to elevate old George to that status because he landed one punch on Moorers sweet spot.

in all honesty, I think Old George would have whooped Young George's ass, he came back a more well rounded (no pun intended) fighter, had an outstanding piston like jab that he didn't have before and anvil straight right hand rather than just his clubbing hooks and wide uppercuts of when he was young, he also paced himself a lot better and could still take a nuclear bomb on the chin without flinching, he was a great fighter period, didn't matter what time frame

[X]

Holyfield had one of the biggest hearts in boxing history, a real warrior.

I must say that the fact he was juicing through most of his elite pro career has got to count against him though. I remember being incredulous that he could keep up such a pace against Qawi, I marvelled at the way he put on weight to become a true heavyweight and I always admired the way he came on strong in the championship rounds.

The heart issues he suffered should have been a giveaway earlier on.

I can't abide dopers, and it was rife in boxing in the 90s. Unfortunately, Evander cheated.

[SlimTrae]

I'm glad Evander has lived long enough to hear those accolades.

Most of his career he was called a blown up cruiser weight who would lose to the first young heavy he would fight.
Even though he did lose he went on to shock the world time and time again.
Real Deal Holyfield.

[ElTerribleMorales]

best fight to sum up Holyfield is his fight with Valuev, don't get this mixed up as me saying it was his best performance or best fight cause it wasn't by any means, but it's the perfect example of when this man is being completely written off he comes back and out guns and schools a guy who on paper should have easily won, and he does so due to his ridiculous work ethic and unbreakable determination and will power (despite the fact that he was ripped off by the judges, come on we all know he won that fight), unlike almost every hw now he would always come into a fight in amazing shape, and would never stop trying to go for the win, he's what a real hw should strive to be

[Beanflicker]

Bit gay sorry

[beenKOed]

Who cares that Lennox didn't fight Moorer, Moorer was legendary at lighter weights but he wasn't a great heavyweight? And Foreman was a side show. Don't get me wrong, Foreman could still beat some people, hence Tysons crippling fear of him, but old George wasn't a great either.

And let's not forget your hero Evan Fields was a known steroid cheat.

Doctor Ron,

You are correct on 2 of the above 3 statements. That's batting .667 > which puts you in the
'Hall of Fame'.

But if you think that George Foreman was 'a joke', then you never saw him in Training.

I didn't say joke, I said he wasn't a great anymore. I said side show because more people cared about his age than anything else.

There are very few greats, young George was one of them, I'm not going to elevate old George to that status because he landed one punch on Moorers sweet spot.

in all honesty, I think Old George would have whooped Young George's ass, he came back a more well rounded (no pun intended) fighter, had an outstanding piston like jab that he didn't have before and anvil straight right hand rather than just his clubbing hooks and wide uppercuts of when he was young, he also paced himself a lot better and could still take a nuclear bomb on the chin without flinching, he was a great fighter period, didn't matter what time frame

Can't agree about Foreman's jab. Young Foreman had the most punishing jab I've ever seen. Nothing about young Foreman impressed me as much as his jab. It made me wince when he used it.
You are absolutely right about Foreman being more rounded in his second career, fought smarter too.
Now go ahead and tell me about Holmes, Lewis, Wald and a dozen other heavyweights with great jabs and I'll still pick young Foreman's.

[Dark Lord Al]

Evander thrilled us all with his guts.
So yes thankyou Evander.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Who cares that Lennox didn't fight Moorer, Moorer was legendary at lighter weights but he wasn't a great heavyweight? And Foreman was a side show. Don't get me wrong, Foreman could still beat some people, hence Tysons crippling fear of him, but old George wasn't a great either.

And let's not forget your hero Evan Fields was a known steroid cheat.

Doctor Ron,

You are correct on 2 of the above 3 statements. That's batting .667 > which puts you in the
'Hall of Fame'.

But if you think that George Foreman was 'a joke', then you never saw him in Training.

I didn't say joke, I said he wasn't a great anymore. I said side show because more people cared about his age than anything else.

There are very few greats, young George was one of them, I'm not going to elevate old George to that status because he landed one punch on Moorers sweet spot.

in all honesty, I think Old George would have whooped Young George's ass, he came back a more well rounded (no pun intended) fighter, had an outstanding piston like jab that he didn't have before and anvil straight right hand rather than just his clubbing hooks and wide uppercuts of when he was young, he also paced himself a lot better and could still take a nuclear bomb on the chin without flinching, he was a great fighter period, didn't matter what time frame

Can't agree about Foreman's jab. Young Foreman had the most punishing jab I've ever seen. Nothing about young Foreman impressed me as much as his jab. It made me wince when he used it.
You are absolutely right about Foreman being more rounded in his second career, fought smarter too.
Now go ahead and tell me about Holmes, Lewis, Wald and a dozen other heavyweights with great jabs and I'll still pick young Foreman's.

mainly cause Foreman's jab was still a power punch, but IMO Holmes jab is still the best by far, he worked off that thing better than anyone else, and he'd be able to keep you as far away from him as he wanted you to be