The Myth Of GGG As The Man To Beat Mayweather

[Master]

There is no way Floyd could and would beat GGG at middleweight and I would not want to see any catchweight which is what Floyd made Canelo do. I am sure Ward would beat GGG as well as Froch but GGG is the real deal. All the top middleweights do not want to go near him. GGG is the new Hagler!

[X]

Mayweather is a truly masterful boxer. Always fit, great game plan that he always follows, good boxing brain, fantastic hand speed and timing.he is without doubt an all time great.

However, I also think Golovkin is the real thing, and that if they fought at middleweight I think GGG would just be too big and too strong. Don't forget Floyd is not really even a natural welterweight, he's been punching above his weight for years already.

Golovkin puts intense pressure on his opponents, he doesn't seem to burn energy and his footwork is superb and underrated. He most certainly possesses power and will stop anyone he lands on IMO

The question here is whether he would ever land on Mayweather, and he is also quite easy to hit and Floyds laser right hand would be landing pretty regularly. He's got a good chin and I don't think he gets cut much.

The real Sugar Ray slightly overreached himself when he went up to light heavy, I don't think Floyd needs to make the same mistake..

[El Kabong]

....if someone blacker than Mayweather came along would denilson support them, cry because of the black on black violence, or spew venom at the unseen hand that the white devil has no doubt played in pitting two men of color against each other and profiting from it?

[Beanflicker]

I'd pick Floyd of 2007-2011 or so to beat GGG. The problem is it would take a LOT of moving, and I don't think Floyd has the legs for it anymore.

But yeah if Floyd were to fight GGG in September at 154 (like GGG claims he will drop down to) and wins, people will say GGG was weight drained and Floyd was a coward to not fight him at 160. If he fought and beat GGG at 160, people would say "ohh GGG was overrated, he never fought anyone, he looked flawed and vulnerable at times, he wasn't great, Floyd never fights great fighters in their prime, ect".

If people want to believe something really badly, they're going to believe it and they'll do as much mental gymnastics as needed to justify it, facts/evidence/logic be damned. Most people hate Floyd and therefore want to believe that he's nothing special and has built his career by fighting all stiffs and guys who were picked at their most vulnerable time/weight/ect. These people are not just going to abandon those beliefs because it would invalidate the 10 years or so they've been spouting it to anyone who would listen. Not saying all Floyd's non-fans are like that, but I do see an awful lot of it on this board.

If Floyd fought Wladimir in September and knocked him out, a few people here would say it was bullshit because Wlad was old with a glass jaw.

[No Contest]

GGG is still underdog against Floyd. Floyd is just too polished. I think he takes GGG to school still.GGG hasn't shown anything against top tier yet. If he whoops Cotto and Canelo then yeah he deserves a shot. I think he will probably fight Kirkland next or a fighter hoping to get back in the spotlight first.

[Spicoli]

Does it really need to devolve into resorting to 'faggot' and Slavic hype job. That shit is just sad. Floyd is not going to fight Golovkin.

[Beanflicker]

Floyd won 115k betting on GGG this weekend.

[ruthless rocco]

Floyd won 115k betting on GGG this weekend.

That's all??

He must not hold GGG is very high esteem!

If I had Mayweather money I woulda won $200 million at least.

[p4pking]

Mayweather money would have to be 8 billion for that to be the case I think. Monroe was a 40/1 underdog Believe that would mean Floyd put over 4 million on that fight though? Don't totally know how the payouts work. Crazy if true.

[ryanman]

Mayweather money would have to be 8 billion for that to be the case I think. Monroe was a 40/1 underdog Believe that would mean Floyd put over 4 million on that fight though? Don't totally know how the payouts work. Crazy if true.

Was Golovkin about 1/80. Something like that. That would mean 8 million on to get 100k back.


*And a completely shit bet.

[Bill Paxtom]

Floyd won 115k betting on GGG this weekend.

And the point is,

That is 'Brunch Money' for Floyd.
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[Silkeyjoe]

Of course Floyd wont fight GGG. Hes been ducking fighters his whole career. At 154 I reckon GGG would weight 170 fight night, no bigger than Canelo was against him, but for some reason this makes GGG a giant No doubt Floyd is great but as Ive always said we will never know how great as he hasnt beaten a prime elite fight. Oscar past it, Mosely past it, Pacquiao past it. I reckon he beats all them in their prime but he didnt.

[ruthless rocco]

Of course Floyd wont fight GGG. Hes been ducking fighters his whole career. At 154 I reckon GGG would weight 170 fight night, no bigger than Canelo was against him, but for some reason this makes GGG a giant No doubt Floyd is great but as Ive always said we will never know how great as he hasnt beaten a prime elite fight. Oscar past it, Mosely past it, Pacquiao past it. I reckon he beats all them in their prime but he didnt.

...And yet Pacquiao gets credit for defeating Oscar and Shane despite having fought them a year after Floyd defeated them both!

154 is the upper limit of 39 year old Floyd's ability. It's ridiculous to expect him to keep moving up in weight as he gets older. Why not have GGG move down to 147 to make it a "fairer" fight?

[Bill Paxtom]

Of course Floyd wont fight GGG. Hes been ducking fighters his whole career. At 154 I reckon GGG would weight 170 fight night, no bigger than Canelo was against him, but for some reason this makes GGG a giant No doubt Floyd is great but as Ive always said we will never know how great as he hasnt beaten a prime elite fight. Oscar past it, Mosely past it, Pacquiao past it. I reckon he beats all them in their prime but he didnt.

...And yet Pacquiao gets credit for defeating Oscar and Shane despite having fought them a year after Floyd defeated them both!

154 is the upper limit of 39 year old Floyd's ability. It's ridiculous to expect him to keep moving up in weight as he gets older. Why not have GGG move down to 147 to make it a "fairer" fight?

Come down to '147'.

Where he hell did you come up with that idea ?

"Next thing you know, you'd want me to make a Motion Picture about some Egyptian Queen."

[Silkeyjoe]

Of course Floyd wont fight GGG. Hes been ducking fighters his whole career. At 154 I reckon GGG would weight 170 fight night, no bigger than Canelo was against him, but for some reason this makes GGG a giant No doubt Floyd is great but as Ive always said we will never know how great as he hasnt beaten a prime elite fight. Oscar past it, Mosely past it, Pacquiao past it. I reckon he beats all them in their prime but he didnt.

...And yet Pacquiao gets credit for defeating Oscar and Shane despite having fought them a year after Floyd defeated them both!

154 is the upper limit of 39 year old Floyd's ability. It's ridiculous to expect him to keep moving up in weight as he gets older. Why not have GGG move down to 147 to make it a "fairer" fight?

When did I give Pacquiao credit for those wins? And the fight against Floyd would be at 154 so Floyd wouldnt be moving up again.

Move down to 147 for the fight, wouldnt surprise me if thats the demand from Floyd. He has a tendency to make sure fights take place at weights most suited to him.