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    Default Re: Top 20 Fighters Since 1980

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    To be fair one of those guys was smaller too. You can't ignore that.
    If you don't have the discipline to consistently stay in shape and keep your weight down at a point where you are most effective, that's a reflection of you as a fighter. When assessing a fighter, you have to take into account the entire package. I never seen Leonard, Hearns or Duran come in out of shape, or quit during a world title match because of tummy aches.

    youre just adding rules to the question

    top 20 fighters thats it

    not the top 20 fighters considering their whole carear or top 20 fighters who were best at staying in shape
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    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    To be fair one of those guys was smaller too. You can't ignore that.
    If you don't have the discipline to consistently stay in shape and keep your weight down at a point where you are most effective, that's a reflection of you as a fighter. When assessing a fighter, you have to take into account the entire package. I never seen Leonard, Hearns or Duran come in out of shape, or quit during a world title match because of tummy aches.

    youre just adding rules to the question

    top 20 fighters thats it

    not the top 20 fighters considering their whole carear or top 20 fighters who were best at staying in shape
    Exactly cause then you'd have to throw in Manny's constant need for an excuse (no matter how ridiculous, be it socks, gloves, shoulder, leg cramps, lucky punches, etc.) after every close fight or loss into account also

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    To be fair one of those guys was smaller too. You can't ignore that.
    If you don't have the discipline to consistently stay in shape and keep your weight down at a point where you are most effective, that's a reflection of you as a fighter. When assessing a fighter, you have to take into account the entire package. I never seen Leonard, Hearns or Duran come in out of shape, or quit during a world title match because of tummy aches.

    youre just adding rules to the question

    top 20 fighters thats it

    not the top 20 fighters considering their whole carear or top 20 fighters who were best at staying in shape
    Exactly cause then you'd have to throw in Manny's constant need for an excuse (no matter how ridiculous, be it socks, gloves, shoulder, leg cramps, lucky punches, etc.) after every close fight or loss into account also
    fucks up with you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    To be fair one of those guys was smaller too. You can't ignore that.
    If you don't have the discipline to consistently stay in shape and keep your weight down at a point where you are most effective, that's a reflection of you as a fighter. When assessing a fighter, you have to take into account the entire package. I never seen Leonard, Hearns or Duran come in out of shape, or quit during a world title match because of tummy aches.

    youre just adding rules to the question

    top 20 fighters thats it

    not the top 20 fighters considering their whole carear or top 20 fighters who were best at staying in shape
    Exactly cause then you'd have to throw in Manny's constant need for an excuse (no matter how ridiculous, be it socks, gloves, shoulder, leg cramps, lucky punches, etc.) after every close fight or loss into account also
    fucks up with you?
    just agreeing with your ass

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    To be fair one of those guys was smaller too. You can't ignore that.
    If you don't have the discipline to consistently stay in shape and keep your weight down at a point where you are most effective, that's a reflection of you as a fighter. When assessing a fighter, you have to take into account the entire package. I never seen Leonard, Hearns or Duran come in out of shape, or quit during a world title match because of tummy aches.

    youre just adding rules to the question

    top 20 fighters thats it

    not the top 20 fighters considering their whole carear or top 20 fighters who were best at staying in shape
    Exactly cause then you'd have to throw in Manny's constant need for an excuse (no matter how ridiculous, be it socks, gloves, shoulder, leg cramps, lucky punches, etc.) after every close fight or loss into account also
    fucks up with you?
    just agreeing with your ass
    i have a fine ass

    sounds like there was a bit of a whinge in your post mind you
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    The OP said specifically from 1980 on so duran is low because his lightweight reign was before that.

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    Default Re: Top 20 Fighters Since 1980

    These lists are sooo subjective.
    IMO Trinidad had a better career and resume than DLH.
    But he's not the crossover star DLH was, so he gets bumped.

    Three losses his entire career, all to ATG's.....
    He bumps a few people off that list, IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    These lists are sooo subjective.
    IMO Trinidad had a better career and resume than DLH.
    But he's not the crossover star DLH was, so he gets bumped.

    Three losses his entire career, all to ATG's.....
    He bumps a few people off that list, IMO.
    I've always thought that tito was overrated. He was good at what he did but had a major flaw against people who could box. And de la hoya easily beat him.

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    Get fat hand picking George Foreman out of that list. Have some shame.
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    How the fuck is Micheal Spinks not on this list he was the undefeated lhw champ and won the hw belt only lost to Tyson. Holy shit i just wrote about the dude in another thread there a reason that Hagler stayed at mw because Spinks would of whooped his fucking ass something awful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post
    How the fuck is Micheal Spinks not on this list he was the undefeated lhw champ and won the hw belt only lost to Tyson. Holy shit i just wrote about the dude in another thread there a reason that Hagler stayed at mw because Spinks would of whooped his fucking ass something awful.
    Going up 2 weights, if it was now is not easy even for the great Hagler. Also the big money fights were with smaller fighters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post
    How the fuck is Micheal Spinks not on this list he was the undefeated lhw champ and won the hw belt only lost to Tyson. Holy shit i just wrote about the dude in another thread there a reason that Hagler stayed at mw because Spinks would of whooped his fucking ass something awful.
    Spinks was one hell of a LHW. One of the very best ever. But no man whoops Haglers "fucking ass something awful".

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    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    top 20 fighters who were best at staying in shape
    I thought staying in shape and being an athlete was a big part of boxing?

    So a guy who doesn't have the discipline to stay in shape can go up and quit during a super fight because of a tummy ache or get destroyed in 2 rounds and we're supposed to say "this guy is great, he wouldn't have lost those if he was in shape and fighting at his best weight". The fuck is that shit?

    Beast mostly nobodies at LW, got outboxed an embarrassed on multiple occasions, VASTLY overrated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    top 20 fighters who were best at staying in shape
    I thought staying in shape and being an athlete was a big part of boxing?

    So a guy who doesn't have the discipline to stay in shape can go up and quit during a super fight because of a tummy ache or get destroyed in 2 rounds and we're supposed to say "this guy is great, he wouldn't have lost those if he was in shape and fighting at his best weight". The fuck is that shit?

    Beast mostly nobodies at LW, got outboxed an embarrassed on multiple occasions, VASTLY overrated.
    With don't get it sorry

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