It should be at 154. Cotto seems intent on being the new Butterbean.
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		It should be at 154. Cotto seems intent on being the new Butterbean.
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		I like Cotto and Canelo and if they get it on, good luck to them. But if Geale does beat Cotto (and I think as long as he's not weight drained , it's a very real prospect.), then it's too bad. I don't think it would be a massive upset.
When he got KO'd by GGG he hit Golovkin with some big shots and I don't know if Cotto will take those. Look back at that fight and you'll see just as GGG KO'd Geale, Geale hit GGG with a peach of a shot, but it just had no effect. GGG isn't just a banger, he definitely has a solid chin.
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		Yeah some Cotto haters dismiss his choice of Geale as an opponent saying Geale ain't shit... but in all honesty they know little of the guy, who just isn't all that well known in some circles but is a pretty good MW in his own right.
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		I hope Canelo beats the shit out of this moron.
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		I don't have any problem with him fighting Geale, I think it's a legit test for a guy who, despite being a linear MW champ, we don't know is a true MW.
Cotto had a choice: be a middleweight or move back down to 154 and be a junior middleweight. By fighting Geale, in my eyes that's him saying "I want to be a middleweight". Well if you want to be a middleweight, and you want to be the middleweight champion of the world, you have to fight GGG after Geale. The fact that he's opting for Canelo instead is disgraceful IMO and is a perfect example of why boxing has gone to shit in the public's eye.
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		This reducing every difference to "hater" is tiresome. I've been a hardcore fan of Cotto since day one and this is still a joke. Whats he going to do next insist on a rehydration clause like Broner in the Porter fight? If they are going to start cherry picking then just re-institute same day freakin weigh ins and stop all this clowning.
You cant make this stuff up.
While the REAL middleweight champion waits on the sidelines unable to execute his mandatory status because the WBC has agreed to give Cotto a pass in order to fight Alvarez as long as the winner agrees to fight the Kazak immediately we get the following scenario.
Two non middleweights fighting for the lineal middleweight championship of the world at a catchweight of most likely 156 and getting all the glamour, admiration, money etc for something that in truth belongs to neither.. The winner will then be in Ring magazine as the top middleweight in the world at the very same time that they are balking on the contract they signed to fight the Kazak. So in essence most likely Alvarez will be at the top of the food chain at middle having never fought one.
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		The way cotto does business, i'll wait to see it in writing.....
They want your @$$ beat because upsets make news. News brings about excitement, excitement brings about ratings. The objective is to bring you up to the tower and tear your @$$ down. And if you don't believe that, you're crazy.
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		Hey, I've been on record as saying numerous times that I don't think Cotto is a true MW. Having said that, I've also been pretty vocal in support of Cotto in his negotiations with Canelo, using all the leverage he's got, and refusing to cave to Canelo's people's demands. Neither Cotto nor Canelo want to fight GGG... that much is clear. A fight between Cotto and Canelo would still be a major draw, regardless of the weight. Let's not also pretend Cotto is the first or only fighter to be playing these weight/ division games. Let's also not pretend that Cotto is the first or only fighter trying to maximize his compensation for a lifetime of wars. Between him and Canelo, there's only one who has earned the right to maximize his earnings toward the end of his career..... and it's not Canelo. So I'll continue defending some things, while not defending others.
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		David Lemieux = Future MW Champ and P4P King
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		Cotto/Canelo winner gets GGG sounds good, now if only Quillen or Lee would fight GGG to just set the stage for the super fight.
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