Cotto vs. Canelo verbal deal reached (if Cotto beats Geale)

[Beanflicker]

Yeah some Cotto haters dismiss his choice of Geale as an opponent saying Geale ain't shit... but in all honesty they know little of the guy, who just isn't all that well known in some circles but is a pretty good MW in his own right.

I don't have any problem with him fighting Geale, I think it's a legit test for a guy who, despite being a linear MW champ, we don't know is a true MW.

Cotto had a choice: be a middleweight or move back down to 154 and be a junior middleweight. By fighting Geale, in my eyes that's him saying "I want to be a middleweight". Well if you want to be a middleweight, and you want to be the middleweight champion of the world, you have to fight GGG after Geale. The fact that he's opting for Canelo instead is disgraceful IMO and is a perfect example of why boxing has gone to shit in the public's eye.

[IamInuit]

This reducing every difference to "hater" is tiresome. I've been a hardcore fan of Cotto since day one and this is still a joke. Whats he going to do next insist on a rehydration clause like Broner in the Porter fight? If they are going to start cherry picking then just re-institute same day freakin weigh ins and stop all this clowning.

You cant make this stuff up.

While the REAL middleweight champion waits on the sidelines unable to execute his mandatory status because the WBC has agreed to give Cotto a pass in order to fight Alvarez as long as the winner agrees to fight the Kazak immediately we get the following scenario.

Two non middleweights fighting for the lineal middleweight championship of the world at a catchweight of most likely 156 and getting all the glamour, admiration, money etc for something that in truth belongs to neither.. The winner will then be in Ring magazine as the top middleweight in the world at the very same time that they are balking on the contract they signed to fight the Kazak. So in essence most likely Alvarez will be at the top of the food chain at middle having never fought one.

[J_Undisputed]

The way cotto does business, i'll wait to see it in writing.....

[TitoFan]

Hey, I've been on record as saying numerous times that I don't think Cotto is a true MW. Having said that, I've also been pretty vocal in support of Cotto in his negotiations with Canelo, using all the leverage he's got, and refusing to cave to Canelo's people's demands. Neither Cotto nor Canelo want to fight GGG... that much is clear. A fight between Cotto and Canelo would still be a major draw, regardless of the weight. Let's not also pretend Cotto is the first or only fighter to be playing these weight/ division games. Let's also not pretend that Cotto is the first or only fighter trying to maximize his compensation for a lifetime of wars. Between him and Canelo, there's only one who has earned the right to maximize his earnings toward the end of his career..... and it's not Canelo. So I'll continue defending some things, while not defending others.

[Master]

I think Cotto should scrape past Geale but see him losing to Canelo but I will be supporting Cotto. Either way I hope GGG gets the winner but I highly doubt that. GGG is the real middleweight champion.

[Violent Demise]

Hey, I've been on record as saying numerous times that I don't think Cotto is a true MW. Having said that, I've also been pretty vocal in support of Cotto in his negotiations with Canelo, using all the leverage he's got, and refusing to cave to Canelo's people's demands. Neither Cotto nor Canelo want to fight GGG... that much is clear. A fight between Cotto and Canelo would still be a major draw, regardless of the weight. Let's not also pretend Cotto is the first or only fighter to be playing these weight/ division games. Let's also not pretend that Cotto is the first or only fighter trying to maximize his compensation for a lifetime of wars. Between him and Canelo, there's only one who has earned the right to maximize his earnings toward the end of his career..... and it's not Canelo. So I'll continue defending some things, while not defending others.

Ha! Fucking hilarious and pretty fucking sad trying to group them together. Alvarez has no problem saying he welcomes a fight again Golovkin. Cotto doesn't even dare say Golovkin's name and does his best to avoid any questions about fighting him.

Saul Alvarez: Yes no problem. If the fans want the fight they will get the fight. He's strong and would be a big challenge. He's in our plans for the future. First Cotto. Than Golovkin

Miguel Cotto: Cotto gonna fight who Cotto wants to fight. Cotto fighting the great Daniel Geale next. Cotto knows he need to be at the his best when facing an ATG like Geale. So he not worry about no one but future HOF Daniel Geale. If Triple G and Canelo want to fight Cotto they need to earn the right to fight Cotto. They need to fight each other 3 times to see who is most worthy. Than Cotto will do whats right. He will give former champion Sergio Martinez his rematch

[J_Undisputed]

Hey, I've been on record as saying numerous times that I don't think Cotto is a true MW. Having said that, I've also been pretty vocal in support of Cotto in his negotiations with Canelo, using all the leverage he's got, and refusing to cave to Canelo's people's demands. Neither Cotto nor Canelo want to fight GGG... that much is clear. A fight between Cotto and Canelo would still be a major draw, regardless of the weight. Let's not also pretend Cotto is the first or only fighter to be playing these weight/ division games. Let's also not pretend that Cotto is the first or only fighter trying to maximize his compensation for a lifetime of wars. Between him and Canelo, there's only one who has earned the right to maximize his earnings toward the end of his career..... and it's not Canelo. So I'll continue defending some things, while not defending others.

Ha! Fucking hilarious and pretty fucking sad trying to group them together. Alvarez has no problem saying he welcomes a fight again Golovkin. Cotto doesn't even dare say Golovkin's name and does his best to avoid any questions about fighting him.

Saul Alvarez: Yes no problem. If the fans want the fight they will get the fight. He's strong and would be a big challenge. He's in our plans for the future. First Cotto. Than Golovkin

Miguel Cotto: Cotto gonna fight who Cotto wants to fight. Cotto fighting the great Daniel Geale next. Cotto knows he need to be at the his best when facing an ATG like Geale. So he not worry about no one but future HOF Daniel Geale. If Triple G and Canelo want to fight Cotto they need to earn the right to fight Cotto. They need to fight each other 3 times to see who is most worthy. Than Cotto will do whats right. He will give former champion Sergio Martinez his rematch

I recall Canelo's answer being: "Yes, in the future, but not now.. " but close enough I think he could be pressured into it easier than Cotto would. Cotto's would try to make it his last fight in the contract with Roc Box and hope by that time someone managed to take the steam out of the GGG

[bzkfn]

Hey, I've been on record as saying numerous times that I don't think Cotto is a true MW. Having said that, I've also been pretty vocal in support of Cotto in his negotiations with Canelo, using all the leverage he's got, and refusing to cave to Canelo's people's demands. Neither Cotto nor Canelo want to fight GGG... that much is clear. A fight between Cotto and Canelo would still be a major draw, regardless of the weight. Let's not also pretend Cotto is the first or only fighter to be playing these weight/ division games. Let's also not pretend that Cotto is the first or only fighter trying to maximize his compensation for a lifetime of wars. Between him and Canelo, there's only one who has earned the right to maximize his earnings toward the end of his career..... and it's not Canelo. So I'll continue defending some things, while not defending others.

Ha! Fucking hilarious and pretty fucking sad trying to group them together. Alvarez has no problem saying he welcomes a fight again Golovkin. Cotto doesn't even dare say Golovkin's name and does his best to avoid any questions about fighting him.

Saul Alvarez: Yes no problem. If the fans want the fight they will get the fight. He's strong and would be a big challenge. He's in our plans for the future. First Cotto. Than Golovkin

Miguel Cotto: Cotto gonna fight who Cotto wants to fight. Cotto fighting the great Daniel Geale next. Cotto knows he need to be at the his best when facing an ATG like Geale. So he not worry about no one but future HOF Daniel Geale. If Triple G and Canelo want to fight Cotto they need to earn the right to fight Cotto. They need to fight each other 3 times to see who is most worthy. Than Cotto will do whats right. He will give former champion Sergio Martinez his rematch

What bullshit. Cotto has been fighting at the top for a long time, has fought everyone you would ask of him. It took Canelo long enough to fight a genuine junior-middleweight and even now he's fighting them at a slight catchweight. I'm a massive fan of both fighters, but you're twisting your hatred on Puerto Rican fighters to have you misjudge a situation. Cotto will take the best money fight next, and that'll be Canelo.

[TitoFan]

Hey, I've been on record as saying numerous times that I don't think Cotto is a true MW. Having said that, I've also been pretty vocal in support of Cotto in his negotiations with Canelo, using all the leverage he's got, and refusing to cave to Canelo's people's demands. Neither Cotto nor Canelo want to fight GGG... that much is clear. A fight between Cotto and Canelo would still be a major draw, regardless of the weight. Let's not also pretend Cotto is the first or only fighter to be playing these weight/ division games. Let's also not pretend that Cotto is the first or only fighter trying to maximize his compensation for a lifetime of wars. Between him and Canelo, there's only one who has earned the right to maximize his earnings toward the end of his career..... and it's not Canelo. So I'll continue defending some things, while not defending others.

Ha! Fucking hilarious and pretty fucking sad trying to group them together. Alvarez has no problem saying he welcomes a fight again Golovkin. Cotto doesn't even dare say Golovkin's name and does his best to avoid any questions about fighting him.

Saul Alvarez: Yes no problem. If the fans want the fight they will get the fight. He's strong and would be a big challenge. He's in our plans for the future. First Cotto. Than Golovkin

Miguel Cotto: Cotto gonna fight who Cotto wants to fight. Cotto fighting the great Daniel Geale next. Cotto knows he need to be at the his best when facing an ATG like Geale. So he not worry about no one but future HOF Daniel Geale. If Triple G and Canelo want to fight Cotto they need to earn the right to fight Cotto. They need to fight each other 3 times to see who is most worthy. Than Cotto will do whats right. He will give former champion Sergio Martinez his rematch

What bullshit. Cotto has been fighting at the top for a long time, has fought everyone you would ask of him. It took Canelo long enough to fight a genuine junior-middleweight and even now he's fighting them at a slight catchweight. I'm a massive fan of both fighters, but you're twisting your hatred on Puerto Rican fighters to have you misjudge a situation. Cotto will take the best money fight next, and that'll be Canelo.

I'm glad someone else said... 'cause if I say it I'm just a hater. All true points, by the way.
The majority of knowledgeable boxing fans know the score, and feel the same way.

[Violent Demise]

Hey, I've been on record as saying numerous times that I don't think Cotto is a true MW. Having said that, I've also been pretty vocal in support of Cotto in his negotiations with Canelo, using all the leverage he's got, and refusing to cave to Canelo's people's demands. Neither Cotto nor Canelo want to fight GGG... that much is clear. A fight between Cotto and Canelo would still be a major draw, regardless of the weight. Let's not also pretend Cotto is the first or only fighter to be playing these weight/ division games. Let's also not pretend that Cotto is the first or only fighter trying to maximize his compensation for a lifetime of wars. Between him and Canelo, there's only one who has earned the right to maximize his earnings toward the end of his career..... and it's not Canelo. So I'll continue defending some things, while not defending others.

Ha! Fucking hilarious and pretty fucking sad trying to group them together. Alvarez has no problem saying he welcomes a fight again Golovkin. Cotto doesn't even dare say Golovkin's name and does his best to avoid any questions about fighting him.

Saul Alvarez: Yes no problem. If the fans want the fight they will get the fight. He's strong and would be a big challenge. He's in our plans for the future. First Cotto. Than Golovkin

Miguel Cotto: Cotto gonna fight who Cotto wants to fight. Cotto fighting the great Daniel Geale next. Cotto knows he need to be at the his best when facing an ATG like Geale. So he not worry about no one but future HOF Daniel Geale. If Triple G and Canelo want to fight Cotto they need to earn the right to fight Cotto. They need to fight each other 3 times to see who is most worthy. Than Cotto will do whats right. He will give former champion Sergio Martinez his rematch

What bullshit. Cotto has been fighting at the top for a long time, has fought everyone you would ask of him. It took Canelo long enough to fight a genuine junior-middleweight and even now he's fighting them at a slight catchweight. I'm a massive fan of both fighters, but you're twisting your hatred on Puerto Rican fighters to have you misjudge a situation. Cotto will take the best money fight next, and that'll be Canelo.

That's been the case twice already. And he still turned the fight down. You wanna call it hate. Everybody else calls it facts.

[Beanflicker]

This reducing every difference to "hater" is tiresome. I've been a hardcore fan of Cotto since day one and this is still a joke. Whats he going to do next insist on a rehydration clause like Broner in the Porter fight? If they are going to start cherry picking then just re-institute same day freakin weigh ins and stop all this clowning.

You cant make this stuff up.

While the REAL middleweight champion waits on the sidelines unable to execute his mandatory status because the WBC has agreed to give Cotto a pass in order to fight Alvarez as long as the winner agrees to fight the Kazak immediately we get the following scenario.

Two non middleweights fighting for the lineal middleweight championship of the world at a catchweight of most likely 156 and getting all the glamour, admiration, money etc for something that in truth belongs to neither.. The winner will then be in Ring magazine as the top middleweight in the world at the very same time that they are balking on the contract they signed to fight the Kazak. So in essence most likely Alvarez will be at the top of the food chain at middle having never fought one.

Ain't that the truth!

Poor GGG can't get any of these fools in the ring with him.

At this rate he'll have to fight Wlad if he wants to get a champ in the ring with him.

[No Contest]

Cotto/Canelo winner gets GGG sounds good, now if only Quillen or Lee would fight GGG to just set the stage for the super fight.

[No Contest]

Don'tforget Canelo is only 24 yrs old...he's got room to grow(fatter).

[Master]

Don'tforget Canelo is only 24 yrs old...he's got room to grow(fatter).

Canelo has three more top years before he fades out. He has had a lot of fights against top fighters.

[Beanflicker]

Cotto/Canelo winner/LOSER AVOIDS GGG sounds MOST LIKELY

Had to fix your post bro.