Cotto vs. Canelo verbal deal reached (if Cotto beats Geale)

[TitoFan]

Hey, I've been on record as saying numerous times that I don't think Cotto is a true MW. Having said that, I've also been pretty vocal in support of Cotto in his negotiations with Canelo, using all the leverage he's got, and refusing to cave to Canelo's people's demands. Neither Cotto nor Canelo want to fight GGG... that much is clear. A fight between Cotto and Canelo would still be a major draw, regardless of the weight. Let's not also pretend Cotto is the first or only fighter to be playing these weight/ division games. Let's also not pretend that Cotto is the first or only fighter trying to maximize his compensation for a lifetime of wars. Between him and Canelo, there's only one who has earned the right to maximize his earnings toward the end of his career..... and it's not Canelo. So I'll continue defending some things, while not defending others.

[Master]

I think Cotto should scrape past Geale but see him losing to Canelo but I will be supporting Cotto. Either way I hope GGG gets the winner but I highly doubt that. GGG is the real middleweight champion.

[Violent Demise]

Hey, I've been on record as saying numerous times that I don't think Cotto is a true MW. Having said that, I've also been pretty vocal in support of Cotto in his negotiations with Canelo, using all the leverage he's got, and refusing to cave to Canelo's people's demands. Neither Cotto nor Canelo want to fight GGG... that much is clear. A fight between Cotto and Canelo would still be a major draw, regardless of the weight. Let's not also pretend Cotto is the first or only fighter to be playing these weight/ division games. Let's also not pretend that Cotto is the first or only fighter trying to maximize his compensation for a lifetime of wars. Between him and Canelo, there's only one who has earned the right to maximize his earnings toward the end of his career..... and it's not Canelo. So I'll continue defending some things, while not defending others.

Ha! Fucking hilarious and pretty fucking sad trying to group them together. Alvarez has no problem saying he welcomes a fight again Golovkin. Cotto doesn't even dare say Golovkin's name and does his best to avoid any questions about fighting him.

Saul Alvarez: Yes no problem. If the fans want the fight they will get the fight. He's strong and would be a big challenge. He's in our plans for the future. First Cotto. Than Golovkin

Miguel Cotto: Cotto gonna fight who Cotto wants to fight. Cotto fighting the great Daniel Geale next. Cotto knows he need to be at the his best when facing an ATG like Geale. So he not worry about no one but future HOF Daniel Geale. If Triple G and Canelo want to fight Cotto they need to earn the right to fight Cotto. They need to fight each other 3 times to see who is most worthy. Than Cotto will do whats right. He will give former champion Sergio Martinez his rematch

[J_Undisputed]

Hey, I've been on record as saying numerous times that I don't think Cotto is a true MW. Having said that, I've also been pretty vocal in support of Cotto in his negotiations with Canelo, using all the leverage he's got, and refusing to cave to Canelo's people's demands. Neither Cotto nor Canelo want to fight GGG... that much is clear. A fight between Cotto and Canelo would still be a major draw, regardless of the weight. Let's not also pretend Cotto is the first or only fighter to be playing these weight/ division games. Let's also not pretend that Cotto is the first or only fighter trying to maximize his compensation for a lifetime of wars. Between him and Canelo, there's only one who has earned the right to maximize his earnings toward the end of his career..... and it's not Canelo. So I'll continue defending some things, while not defending others.

Ha! Fucking hilarious and pretty fucking sad trying to group them together. Alvarez has no problem saying he welcomes a fight again Golovkin. Cotto doesn't even dare say Golovkin's name and does his best to avoid any questions about fighting him.

Saul Alvarez: Yes no problem. If the fans want the fight they will get the fight. He's strong and would be a big challenge. He's in our plans for the future. First Cotto. Than Golovkin

Miguel Cotto: Cotto gonna fight who Cotto wants to fight. Cotto fighting the great Daniel Geale next. Cotto knows he need to be at the his best when facing an ATG like Geale. So he not worry about no one but future HOF Daniel Geale. If Triple G and Canelo want to fight Cotto they need to earn the right to fight Cotto. They need to fight each other 3 times to see who is most worthy. Than Cotto will do whats right. He will give former champion Sergio Martinez his rematch

I recall Canelo's answer being: "Yes, in the future, but not now.. " but close enough I think he could be pressured into it easier than Cotto would. Cotto's would try to make it his last fight in the contract with Roc Box and hope by that time someone managed to take the steam out of the GGG

[bzkfn]

Hey, I've been on record as saying numerous times that I don't think Cotto is a true MW. Having said that, I've also been pretty vocal in support of Cotto in his negotiations with Canelo, using all the leverage he's got, and refusing to cave to Canelo's people's demands. Neither Cotto nor Canelo want to fight GGG... that much is clear. A fight between Cotto and Canelo would still be a major draw, regardless of the weight. Let's not also pretend Cotto is the first or only fighter to be playing these weight/ division games. Let's also not pretend that Cotto is the first or only fighter trying to maximize his compensation for a lifetime of wars. Between him and Canelo, there's only one who has earned the right to maximize his earnings toward the end of his career..... and it's not Canelo. So I'll continue defending some things, while not defending others.

Ha! Fucking hilarious and pretty fucking sad trying to group them together. Alvarez has no problem saying he welcomes a fight again Golovkin. Cotto doesn't even dare say Golovkin's name and does his best to avoid any questions about fighting him.

Saul Alvarez: Yes no problem. If the fans want the fight they will get the fight. He's strong and would be a big challenge. He's in our plans for the future. First Cotto. Than Golovkin

Miguel Cotto: Cotto gonna fight who Cotto wants to fight. Cotto fighting the great Daniel Geale next. Cotto knows he need to be at the his best when facing an ATG like Geale. So he not worry about no one but future HOF Daniel Geale. If Triple G and Canelo want to fight Cotto they need to earn the right to fight Cotto. They need to fight each other 3 times to see who is most worthy. Than Cotto will do whats right. He will give former champion Sergio Martinez his rematch

What bullshit. Cotto has been fighting at the top for a long time, has fought everyone you would ask of him. It took Canelo long enough to fight a genuine junior-middleweight and even now he's fighting them at a slight catchweight. I'm a massive fan of both fighters, but you're twisting your hatred on Puerto Rican fighters to have you misjudge a situation. Cotto will take the best money fight next, and that'll be Canelo.

[TitoFan]

Hey, I've been on record as saying numerous times that I don't think Cotto is a true MW. Having said that, I've also been pretty vocal in support of Cotto in his negotiations with Canelo, using all the leverage he's got, and refusing to cave to Canelo's people's demands. Neither Cotto nor Canelo want to fight GGG... that much is clear. A fight between Cotto and Canelo would still be a major draw, regardless of the weight. Let's not also pretend Cotto is the first or only fighter to be playing these weight/ division games. Let's also not pretend that Cotto is the first or only fighter trying to maximize his compensation for a lifetime of wars. Between him and Canelo, there's only one who has earned the right to maximize his earnings toward the end of his career..... and it's not Canelo. So I'll continue defending some things, while not defending others.

Ha! Fucking hilarious and pretty fucking sad trying to group them together. Alvarez has no problem saying he welcomes a fight again Golovkin. Cotto doesn't even dare say Golovkin's name and does his best to avoid any questions about fighting him.

Saul Alvarez: Yes no problem. If the fans want the fight they will get the fight. He's strong and would be a big challenge. He's in our plans for the future. First Cotto. Than Golovkin

Miguel Cotto: Cotto gonna fight who Cotto wants to fight. Cotto fighting the great Daniel Geale next. Cotto knows he need to be at the his best when facing an ATG like Geale. So he not worry about no one but future HOF Daniel Geale. If Triple G and Canelo want to fight Cotto they need to earn the right to fight Cotto. They need to fight each other 3 times to see who is most worthy. Than Cotto will do whats right. He will give former champion Sergio Martinez his rematch

What bullshit. Cotto has been fighting at the top for a long time, has fought everyone you would ask of him. It took Canelo long enough to fight a genuine junior-middleweight and even now he's fighting them at a slight catchweight. I'm a massive fan of both fighters, but you're twisting your hatred on Puerto Rican fighters to have you misjudge a situation. Cotto will take the best money fight next, and that'll be Canelo.

I'm glad someone else said... 'cause if I say it I'm just a hater. All true points, by the way.
The majority of knowledgeable boxing fans know the score, and feel the same way.

[Violent Demise]

Hey, I've been on record as saying numerous times that I don't think Cotto is a true MW. Having said that, I've also been pretty vocal in support of Cotto in his negotiations with Canelo, using all the leverage he's got, and refusing to cave to Canelo's people's demands. Neither Cotto nor Canelo want to fight GGG... that much is clear. A fight between Cotto and Canelo would still be a major draw, regardless of the weight. Let's not also pretend Cotto is the first or only fighter to be playing these weight/ division games. Let's also not pretend that Cotto is the first or only fighter trying to maximize his compensation for a lifetime of wars. Between him and Canelo, there's only one who has earned the right to maximize his earnings toward the end of his career..... and it's not Canelo. So I'll continue defending some things, while not defending others.

Ha! Fucking hilarious and pretty fucking sad trying to group them together. Alvarez has no problem saying he welcomes a fight again Golovkin. Cotto doesn't even dare say Golovkin's name and does his best to avoid any questions about fighting him.

Saul Alvarez: Yes no problem. If the fans want the fight they will get the fight. He's strong and would be a big challenge. He's in our plans for the future. First Cotto. Than Golovkin

Miguel Cotto: Cotto gonna fight who Cotto wants to fight. Cotto fighting the great Daniel Geale next. Cotto knows he need to be at the his best when facing an ATG like Geale. So he not worry about no one but future HOF Daniel Geale. If Triple G and Canelo want to fight Cotto they need to earn the right to fight Cotto. They need to fight each other 3 times to see who is most worthy. Than Cotto will do whats right. He will give former champion Sergio Martinez his rematch

What bullshit. Cotto has been fighting at the top for a long time, has fought everyone you would ask of him. It took Canelo long enough to fight a genuine junior-middleweight and even now he's fighting them at a slight catchweight. I'm a massive fan of both fighters, but you're twisting your hatred on Puerto Rican fighters to have you misjudge a situation. Cotto will take the best money fight next, and that'll be Canelo.

That's been the case twice already. And he still turned the fight down. You wanna call it hate. Everybody else calls it facts.

[TitoFan]

Hey, I've been on record as saying numerous times that I don't think Cotto is a true MW. Having said that, I've also been pretty vocal in support of Cotto in his negotiations with Canelo, using all the leverage he's got, and refusing to cave to Canelo's people's demands. Neither Cotto nor Canelo want to fight GGG... that much is clear. A fight between Cotto and Canelo would still be a major draw, regardless of the weight. Let's not also pretend Cotto is the first or only fighter to be playing these weight/ division games. Let's also not pretend that Cotto is the first or only fighter trying to maximize his compensation for a lifetime of wars. Between him and Canelo, there's only one who has earned the right to maximize his earnings toward the end of his career..... and it's not Canelo. So I'll continue defending some things, while not defending others.

Ha! Fucking hilarious and pretty fucking sad trying to group them together. Alvarez has no problem saying he welcomes a fight again Golovkin. Cotto doesn't even dare say Golovkin's name and does his best to avoid any questions about fighting him.

Saul Alvarez: Yes no problem. If the fans want the fight they will get the fight. He's strong and would be a big challenge. He's in our plans for the future. First Cotto. Than Golovkin

Miguel Cotto: Cotto gonna fight who Cotto wants to fight. Cotto fighting the great Daniel Geale next. Cotto knows he need to be at the his best when facing an ATG like Geale. So he not worry about no one but future HOF Daniel Geale. If Triple G and Canelo want to fight Cotto they need to earn the right to fight Cotto. They need to fight each other 3 times to see who is most worthy. Than Cotto will do whats right. He will give former champion Sergio Martinez his rematch

What bullshit. Cotto has been fighting at the top for a long time, has fought everyone you would ask of him. It took Canelo long enough to fight a genuine junior-middleweight and even now he's fighting them at a slight catchweight. I'm a massive fan of both fighters, but you're twisting your hatred on Puerto Rican fighters to have you misjudge a situation. Cotto will take the best money fight next, and that'll be Canelo.

That's been the case twice already. And he still turned the fight down. You wanna call it hate. Everybody else calls it facts.

You can repeat the same shit 100 times. It still doesn't make it true. I'll say this one more time. You say "twice". What a laugh. The first time, each fighter wanted different things. Neither budged. Cotto stuck to his guns and his plans, basically telling the upstart to "shove it". Cotto wanted to fight in June, as his custom lately, fighting around the time of the P.R. parade in NYC. Canelo wanted to fight in March. Cotto also wanted to go for the MW title, rather than fighting Canelo in a non-title fight. As I've said countless times before.... it is Cotto who calls the shots.... not the upstart. Kudos to Cotto for not caving to GDP and their coddled ginger-head. It IS hate, whereas everyone else just deals in facts.

[Violent Demise]

Hey, I've been on record as saying numerous times that I don't think Cotto is a true MW. Having said that, I've also been pretty vocal in support of Cotto in his negotiations with Canelo, using all the leverage he's got, and refusing to cave to Canelo's people's demands. Neither Cotto nor Canelo want to fight GGG... that much is clear. A fight between Cotto and Canelo would still be a major draw, regardless of the weight. Let's not also pretend Cotto is the first or only fighter to be playing these weight/ division games. Let's also not pretend that Cotto is the first or only fighter trying to maximize his compensation for a lifetime of wars. Between him and Canelo, there's only one who has earned the right to maximize his earnings toward the end of his career..... and it's not Canelo. So I'll continue defending some things, while not defending others.

Ha! Fucking hilarious and pretty fucking sad trying to group them together. Alvarez has no problem saying he welcomes a fight again Golovkin. Cotto doesn't even dare say Golovkin's name and does his best to avoid any questions about fighting him.

Saul Alvarez: Yes no problem. If the fans want the fight they will get the fight. He's strong and would be a big challenge. He's in our plans for the future. First Cotto. Than Golovkin

Miguel Cotto: Cotto gonna fight who Cotto wants to fight. Cotto fighting the great Daniel Geale next. Cotto knows he need to be at the his best when facing an ATG like Geale. So he not worry about no one but future HOF Daniel Geale. If Triple G and Canelo want to fight Cotto they need to earn the right to fight Cotto. They need to fight each other 3 times to see who is most worthy. Than Cotto will do whats right. He will give former champion Sergio Martinez his rematch

What bullshit. Cotto has been fighting at the top for a long time, has fought everyone you would ask of him. It took Canelo long enough to fight a genuine junior-middleweight and even now he's fighting them at a slight catchweight. I'm a massive fan of both fighters, but you're twisting your hatred on Puerto Rican fighters to have you misjudge a situation. Cotto will take the best money fight next, and that'll be Canelo.

That's been the case twice already. And he still turned the fight down. You wanna call it hate. Everybody else calls it facts.

You can repeat the same shit 100 times. It still doesn't make it true. I'll say this one more time. You say "twice". What a laugh. The first time, each fighter wanted different things. Neither budged. Cotto stuck to his guns and his plans, basically telling the upstart to "shove it". Cotto wanted to fight in June, as his custom lately, fighting around the time of the P.R. parade in NYC. Canelo wanted to fight in March. Cotto also wanted to go for the MW title, rather than fighting Canelo in a non-title fight. As I've said countless times before.... it is Cotto who calls the shots.... not the upstart. Kudos to Cotto for not caving to GDP and their coddled ginger-head. It IS hate, whereas everyone else just deals in facts.

Fact 1, Cotto was offered 10 million plus to fight Alvarez.
Fact 2, Cotto takes 7 million to fight Sergio Martinez instead.
Fact 3, Cotto is guaranteed 12 million to fight Alvarez in May.
Fact 4, The Golovkin camp express interest in fighting Cotto
Fact 5, Cotto doesn't sign to fight Alvarez and refuses to negotiate with Golovkin
Fact 6, Cotto signs to face the mediocre, recently steamrolled Daniel Geale

Fake, wannabe boxing fans always confuse facts with hate.

[Master]

Cotto made the right fight against Sergio and now the Canelo fight is worth more.

GGG would rip Cotto and Canelo apart.

[bzkfn]

Fact 1, Cotto was offered 10 million plus to fight Alvarez.
Fact 2, Cotto takes 7 million to fight Sergio Martinez instead.
Fact 3, Cotto is guaranteed 12 million to fight Alvarez in May.
Fact 4, The Golovkin camp express interest in fighting Cotto
Fact 5, Cotto doesn't sign to fight Alvarez and refuses to negotiate with Golovkin
Fact 6, Cotto signs to face the mediocre, recently steamrolled Daniel Geale

Fake, wannabe boxing fans always confuse facts with hate.

Cotto took the history making fight with Martinez, which turned out to be an exceptional business decision. He only turned it down the 2nd time because of his promotional situation. You're twisting facts again. Like I've said, I'm a huge fan of Canelo but lets not pretend he's even achieved anything on the level of Cotto. Also, I don't see Canelo negotiating with Golovkin, instead he fought the mediocre, steamrolled James Kirkland.

[TitoFan]

Hey, I've been on record as saying numerous times that I don't think Cotto is a true MW. Having said that, I've also been pretty vocal in support of Cotto in his negotiations with Canelo, using all the leverage he's got, and refusing to cave to Canelo's people's demands. Neither Cotto nor Canelo want to fight GGG... that much is clear. A fight between Cotto and Canelo would still be a major draw, regardless of the weight. Let's not also pretend Cotto is the first or only fighter to be playing these weight/ division games. Let's also not pretend that Cotto is the first or only fighter trying to maximize his compensation for a lifetime of wars. Between him and Canelo, there's only one who has earned the right to maximize his earnings toward the end of his career..... and it's not Canelo. So I'll continue defending some things, while not defending others.

Ha! Fucking hilarious and pretty fucking sad trying to group them together. Alvarez has no problem saying he welcomes a fight again Golovkin. Cotto doesn't even dare say Golovkin's name and does his best to avoid any questions about fighting him.

Saul Alvarez: Yes no problem. If the fans want the fight they will get the fight. He's strong and would be a big challenge. He's in our plans for the future. First Cotto. Than Golovkin

Miguel Cotto: Cotto gonna fight who Cotto wants to fight. Cotto fighting the great Daniel Geale next. Cotto knows he need to be at the his best when facing an ATG like Geale. So he not worry about no one but future HOF Daniel Geale. If Triple G and Canelo want to fight Cotto they need to earn the right to fight Cotto. They need to fight each other 3 times to see who is most worthy. Than Cotto will do whats right. He will give former champion Sergio Martinez his rematch

What bullshit. Cotto has been fighting at the top for a long time, has fought everyone you would ask of him. It took Canelo long enough to fight a genuine junior-middleweight and even now he's fighting them at a slight catchweight. I'm a massive fan of both fighters, but you're twisting your hatred on Puerto Rican fighters to have you misjudge a situation. Cotto will take the best money fight next, and that'll be Canelo.

That's been the case twice already. And he still turned the fight down. You wanna call it hate. Everybody else calls it facts.

You can repeat the same shit 100 times. It still doesn't make it true. I'll say this one more time. You say "twice". What a laugh. The first time, each fighter wanted different things. Neither budged. Cotto stuck to his guns and his plans, basically telling the upstart to "shove it". Cotto wanted to fight in June, as his custom lately, fighting around the time of the P.R. parade in NYC. Canelo wanted to fight in March. Cotto also wanted to go for the MW title, rather than fighting Canelo in a non-title fight. As I've said countless times before.... it is Cotto who calls the shots.... not the upstart. Kudos to Cotto for not caving to GDP and their coddled ginger-head. It IS hate, whereas everyone else just deals in facts.

Fact 1, Cotto was offered 10 million plus to fight Alvarez.
Fact 2, Cotto takes 7 million to fight Sergio Martinez instead.
Fact 3, Cotto is guaranteed 12 million to fight Alvarez in May.
Fact 4, The Golovkin camp express interest in fighting Cotto
Fact 5, Cotto doesn't sign to fight Alvarez and refuses to negotiate with Golovkin
Fact 6, Cotto signs to face the mediocre, recently steamrolled Daniel Geale

Fake, wannabe boxing fans always confuse facts with hate.

Ok... first I commend you because for the first time in history you're taking the high road in an argument, and not resorting to childish insults.

Having said that, I feel compelled to differentiate between "ducking", which of course you're implying that Cotto is doing with Canelo..... and business decisions.

"Ducking" is avoiding another fighter because of fear. Everything is in favor of your facing the other fighter..... EVERYTHING. But you choose not to. There's no other reason other than fear. You may even choose to give up a title because you don't want to face so-and-so.

Business decisions come from negotiations. In the end, you choose to do what is best for YOUR career, at the time you're making the decision. No pressure.... no coercing from anybody else is going to change your mind. On the contrary. If you allow yourself to get pressured.... you're actually weak-minded.... something Cotto has demonstrated he's not.

Beyond all that, Cotto has never ducked anyone in his career. To insist he's ducking Canelo is an affront to all the really great fighters Cotto's fought in the past. Why would he fight the hit parade of great fighters he's fought..... only to now duck Canelo?? It makes no sense, and you know it.

Therefore, your list of so-called "facts" are nothing more than an empty argument trying to prove something that isn't there. And as you like to say....... knowledgeable fans know that. Haters don't.