Quote Originally Posted by mikeeod View Post
Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
All time great fighters like Leonard, Robinson, Jones, Chavez, Whitaker and Duran would be great in any era at their respective best weights. Good fighters like Hearns, Oscar and Hopkins could do great things in their time period dependant on competition.

The only distinction is they were beaten by great fighters when it mattered.
You don't consider Hearns and Hop ATGs? In his prime Tommy only lost to Leonard (in a fight he was winning handily) and Hagler (up at 160), both ATGs themselves. He destroyed Cuevas and Duran, although Roberto was above his ideal fighting weight.

Hop has some significant records and historical wins over tough competition. He lost to Roy and drew with Mercado while he was still green, and was ripped off vs. Taylor and barely lost to Joe C. while just past his prime. Definitely respect your opinion but have to disagree with you on those two being "only" good fighters. Actually, after the murderers row that Oscar fought, disagree with him being "good" only.
OK I will concede Hearns is an ATG but not Hopkins and Oscar.

The golden boy was a very good fighter who faced the best fighters but lost the big fights. Hopkins was a very good fighter too but not ATG and I would include James Toney in that as well.