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    Default Re: Cotto vs. Canelo verbal deal reached (if Cotto beats Geale)

    Look the problem is that GGG should of got the shot for the gold instead of Cotto as far middle weights go he was knocking them out should of got his shot. I am just pissed that going to take yet another year for GGG to get the ring belt thats it so hoping Cotto loeses so GGG gets a shot he needs.

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    I don't see why 2 divisions are in a holding pattern because 1 fighter decides he wants a retirement plan now that hes on the decline and wants to redesign the rules so hes able to do it. This primadonna crap has to end. Fighters picking creating their own weights to defend titles, choosing their opponents gloves, choosing drug testing agencies, who gets to announce a fight, and other fringe details to create advantages for themselves.

    This is not the customary champion gets announced second or top billing or possible chooses the ring size. It makes a joke out of the sport when you have a guy whos got more in recognition in getting beat up than winning, talking this A side/ B-side nonsense while holding belts hostage and trying to dictate what a canelo or GGG should get when fighting him... Then again, this garbage started with Floyd a top fighter in the sport that dictates his opponents cut, fight date, location, announcement, drug agency, and every other detail (except gloves for manny) and then calls the other guy a sore loser. Khan, a guy who hasn't really been able to keep himself on the map but says Brooks not good enough to fight him yet. Garcia, another fighter trying to create his own weight division, so he can hold on to titles he wont defend rest on his laurels. Aside from cotto, what do all these fighters have in common. Al Haymon...

    Whatever happened to the day when the guy at the top of the mountain took on all comers and conquered to prove he was the best. Mandatory challengers at least had the option of step aside money if a champ wanted to unify and then were still in line for a shot at the unified title later. -- now you even have someone like malignaggi on the outside, trying to make his reality more palatable by trying to goad someone into fighting him so he doesn't have to fight nobodies after his drubbing at the hands of porter. And still I can't really hold it against Malignaggi. He doesn't hold any belts, titles etc. So the boxing world goes on without him whether or not he gets what he wants.

    All those so called businessmen are trying to make boxing their own private playground and just as outside the only way that they will go away is if the public stops buying what they're selling. Perhaps the boxing public needs to have its own belt for each division. That way the stock drops on whatever dirty alphabet org is taking money under the table or crooked promoter is using them to hype his fighters. Its pretty obvious there will be no central governing body now as all the crooks have too much to lose.

    ...just my opinion...
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    Default Re: Cotto vs. Canelo verbal deal reached (if Cotto beats Geale)

    Quote Originally Posted by J_Undisputed View Post
    I don't see why 2 divisions are in a holding pattern because 1 fighter decides he wants a retirement plan now that hes on the decline and wants to redesign the rules so hes able to do it. This primadonna crap has to end. Fighters picking creating their own weights to defend titles, choosing their opponents gloves, choosing drug testing agencies, who gets to announce a fight, and other fringe details to create advantages for themselves.

    This is not the customary champion gets announced second or top billing or possible chooses the ring size. It makes a joke out of the sport when you have a guy whos got more in recognition in getting beat up than winning, talking this A side/ B-side nonsense while holding belts hostage and trying to dictate what a canelo or GGG should get when fighting him... Then again, this garbage started with Floyd a top fighter in the sport that dictates his opponents cut, fight date, location, announcement, drug agency, and every other detail (except gloves for manny) and then calls the other guy a sore loser. Khan, a guy who hasn't really been able to keep himself on the map but says Brooks not good enough to fight him yet. Garcia, another fighter trying to create his own weight division, so he can hold on to titles he wont defend rest on his laurels. Aside from cotto, what do all these fighters have in common. Al Haymon...

    Whatever happened to the day when the guy at the top of the mountain took on all comers and conquered to prove he was the best. Mandatory challengers at least had the option of step aside money if a champ wanted to unify and then were still in line for a shot at the unified title later. -- now you even have someone like malignaggi on the outside, trying to make his reality more palatable by trying to goad someone into fighting him so he doesn't have to fight nobodies after his drubbing at the hands of porter. And still I can't really hold it against Malignaggi. He doesn't hold any belts, titles etc. So the boxing world goes on without him whether or not he gets what he wants.

    All those so called businessmen are trying to make boxing their own private playground and just as outside the only way that they will go away is if the public stops buying what they're selling. Perhaps the boxing public needs to have its own belt for each division. That way the stock drops on whatever dirty alphabet org is taking money under the table or crooked promoter is using them to hype his fighters. Its pretty obvious there will be no central governing body now as all the crooks have too much to lose.

    ...just my opinion...
    this is exactly why having multiple belts is a problem. there is no hiding if you are the champ. for example, sergio was regarded as THE MW champ. since cotto beat him, cotto would now be THE MW champ. ggg would definitely be the #1 contender for the belt so cotto would either have to fight him or drop the belt. with so many belts, people can make excuses for why they arent fighting a certain fighter.

    and about catchweights, im alright with them as long as its not for a belt. if you are defending your title, then fight at that weight. its absolutely ridiculous to have a MW title fight at 157. it makes zero sense. i mean, i cant wrestle in the olympics and ask for a catchweight because im popular. if i want to win the medal at the weight class, i have to wrestle at that weight class. a professional belt should be no different. this is why the belts are pointless and i honestly dont care about them. half of the time im not even sure who has a belt in any weight class. i just know who the top fighters are and who i consider the top fighter at each weight.

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