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    Default Re: Cotto vs. Canelo verbal deal reached (if Cotto beats Geale)

    Quote Originally Posted by bzkfn View Post
    He's had 1 fight a Middleweight. Just 1 fight. Nothing wrong with taking a tune up. You could pretty much hate on anyone at boxing for doing this. Why isn't Deontay Wilder fight Wladimir Klitschko right after winning the title instead of Eric Molina? Why are Stevenson and Kovalev not fighting each other? Why is Danny Garcia holding onto his 140 titles and refusing to fight at 140? Why will no 122lber fight Rigondeaux? Why is Andre Ward still WBA Champion after not fighting for 2 years and is now fighting Paul Smith above the division limit? All Cotto is doing is testing the waters by fighting another guy and maximising his bank account. He beats him, it looks like Canelo is next. He beats him then it has to GGG according to the WBC.


    The answer to all of this is the ol' double standard. Boxing fans are notorious for not holding all fighters to the same standards or not using the same measuring stick for all. Regardless of what shape Martinez was in when Cotto fought him, the fight went on as scheduled. And yes, it WAS Cotto's 1st fight at middleweight. Granted, I've always thought Cotto is too small for MW. I'm not a fan of catchweights, either. But if Cotto gets past Geale, and I'm hoping that he does, he's got a verbal commitment to face Canelo.... and then everything regarding GGG right now is pure speculation. It seems silly to cry "ducking" when you've just arrived at a new weight division, especially when typically you "test the waters", as you well put it, before taking on the best of the division. I'll add that although I'm not fond of catchweights..... it's not like Cotto invented the damn concept either.

    But whatever. I'm gonna enjoy the fight tonight.... 'cause Cotto fights are always fun to watch.


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    Default Re: Cotto vs. Canelo verbal deal reached (if Cotto beats Geale)

    Well it looks like the doors are wide open for a Cotto-Canelo fight to be negotiated, now that both have dispatched their respective opponents. So at this early stage I want to say something unequivocally from the get-go........

    What will ensue here will be negotiations. Who gets what.... where the fight will be held.... when the fight will be held..... blah, blah, blah. Canelo through his GDP puppet master will want to play hardball again..... wanting to coerce Cotto into accepting his conditions, stupidly claiming A-side status, or whatever the hell anybody wants to call it nowadays. Cotto, to his credit, is a pretty shrewd man himself, and does not need DLH pulling his strings in the background to know what he wants.

    Like he very clearly stated in the pre-Geale fight interview that was shown with Jim Lampley..... he's gone through a 14-year pro career, and has gone through all the hard knocks, to have earned the standing he now has. He won't be strong-armed by young-un Canelo or his puppet master DLH into thinking he has to cave to their demands. So if Canelo "really" wants to fight Cotto...... he's gonna have to show it at the negotiating table. Otherwise, he's just blowing smoke, and Cotto will tell him to f*ck off again.

    Just want to make that clear up front, for any ignorant minds that begin to foolishly throw the "D" word around.

    Capiche?


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    Default Re: Cotto vs. Canelo verbal deal reached (if Cotto beats Geale)

    hopefully each side can agree to the terms. this fight needs to happen.

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    Default Re: Cotto vs. Canelo verbal deal reached (if Cotto beats Geale)

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Well it looks like the doors are wide open for a Cotto-Canelo fight to be negotiated, now that both have dispatched their respective opponents. So at this early stage I want to say something unequivocally from the get-go........

    What will ensue here will be negotiations. Who gets what.... where the fight will be held.... when the fight will be held..... blah, blah, blah. Canelo through his GDP puppet master will want to play hardball again..... wanting to coerce Cotto into accepting his conditions, stupidly claiming A-side status, or whatever the hell anybody wants to call it nowadays. Cotto, to his credit, is a pretty shrewd man himself, and does not need DLH pulling his strings in the background to know what he wants.

    Like he very clearly stated in the pre-Geale fight interview that was shown with Jim Lampley..... he's gone through a 14-year pro career, and has gone through all the hard knocks, to have earned the standing he now has. He won't be strong-armed by young-un Canelo or his puppet master DLH into thinking he has to cave to their demands. So if Canelo "really" wants to fight Cotto...... he's gonna have to show it at the negotiating table. Otherwise, he's just blowing smoke, and Cotto will tell him to f*ck off again.

    Just want to make that clear up front, for any ignorant minds that begin to foolishly throw the "D" word around.

    Capiche?

    If Canelo doesn't accept terms we know GGG will Cotto don't want that though
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    Default Re: Cotto vs. Canelo verbal deal reached (if Cotto beats Geale)

    Quote Originally Posted by La Cucaracha View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Well it looks like the doors are wide open for a Cotto-Canelo fight to be negotiated, now that both have dispatched their respective opponents. So at this early stage I want to say something unequivocally from the get-go........

    What will ensue here will be negotiations. Who gets what.... where the fight will be held.... when the fight will be held..... blah, blah, blah. Canelo through his GDP puppet master will want to play hardball again..... wanting to coerce Cotto into accepting his conditions, stupidly claiming A-side status, or whatever the hell anybody wants to call it nowadays. Cotto, to his credit, is a pretty shrewd man himself, and does not need DLH pulling his strings in the background to know what he wants.

    Like he very clearly stated in the pre-Geale fight interview that was shown with Jim Lampley..... he's gone through a 14-year pro career, and has gone through all the hard knocks, to have earned the standing he now has. He won't be strong-armed by young-un Canelo or his puppet master DLH into thinking he has to cave to their demands. So if Canelo "really" wants to fight Cotto...... he's gonna have to show it at the negotiating table. Otherwise, he's just blowing smoke, and Cotto will tell him to f*ck off again.

    Just want to make that clear up front, for any ignorant minds that begin to foolishly throw the "D" word around.

    Capiche?

    If Canelo doesn't accept terms we know GGG will Cotto don't want that though

    You're probably right.

    I think both Cotto AND Canelo would rather fight each other.

    After that, it's all conjecture. But Cotto paused.... while Canelo said he'd "probably fight him later".
    Hard to pick which sounds more reluctant.


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    Default Re: Cotto vs. Canelo verbal deal reached (if Cotto beats Geale)

    Now that both Alvarez and Cotto have won it's time to make the fight. And really it shouldn't be that hard to make. Cotto has been stating for the last couple of years that money is his main motivation. He's looking for the business deal that will get him the most money. Fine. No problem with that. Twice Cotto has been offered career high paydays to fight Alvarez. Chances are his next offer will be a career high payday as well. In other words it'll be the best business deal. No reason Cotto would turn it down. At least I hope he wouldn't

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    Default Re: Cotto vs. Canelo verbal deal reached (if Cotto beats Geale)

    They will make the fight then the winner will get KOED by GGG.

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    Default Re: Cotto vs. Canelo verbal deal reached (if Cotto beats Geale)

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    They will make the fight then the winner will get KOED by GGG.
    To be fair that is no shame GGG is the new Hagler.
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