Weaknesses of shoulder roll.

**No Contest** · 06-09-2015 08:23 AM

Looking back at Floyd's record its not that impressive in hindsight. A lot of past their prime fighters. Floyd is now past his prime, it's gonna be interesting the next few fights if he fights real competition...not A Mere Con ...I think he should fight Crawford.

**powerpuncher** · 06-09-2015 10:25 AM

People never mention zab was very effective against Floyd at the beginning of the fight. How he did it was not engage on the inside. The shoulder roll is more effective when people are throwing multiple punches at you. Zab is a one really fast punch kind of a fighter. Floyd had a tough time timing his shots. Zab even knocked him down with a right (I know it wasn't an official knock down but we all know it was). I think Floyd had success later in the fight partly because he is great at adapting during the fight and partly because zab can't fight well past 4 rounds (which Floyd admitted).

So I agree that being EFFECTIVELY aggressive is a great way to overcome the shoulder roll but it's also effective to nullify it by not giving the opponent much opportunity to utilize it. it's kind of like not giving a counter puncher a chance to counter by not throwing many punches and picking the right time and place to throw.

**SugarBoxing** · 06-09-2015 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by powerpuncher

People never mention zab was very effective against Floyd at the beginning of the fight. How he did it was not engage on the inside. The shoulder roll is more effective when people are throwing multiple punches at you. Zab is a one really fast punch kind of a fighter. Floyd had a tough time timing his shots. Zab even knocked him down with a right (I know it wasn't an official knock down but we all know it was). I think Floyd had success later in the fight partly because he is great at adapting during the fight and partly because zab can't fight well past 4 rounds (which Floyd admitted).

So I agree that being EFFECTIVELY aggressive is a great way to overcome the shoulder roll but it's also effective to nullify it by not giving the opponent much opportunity to utilize it. it's kind of like not giving a counter puncher a chance to counter by not throwing many punches and picking the right time and place to throw.

No he was not. First few rounds of "reconnaissance" do not count.