1991 George Foreman KNOCKS OUT 1991 Mike Tyson

[El Kabong]

It must be said that if Foreman was in his 20's when he fought Holyfield there's all likelihood he would have knocked Evander out.....he rocked the crap out of him when he was in his 40's...now add in some better footwork, some faster hands...that doesn't look great for Evander IMO

You don't really think that the younger Foreman had better footwork do you ? Given Foremans similar weight, tightly wound approach and porous defense I think the same Holyfield eats him up. That Foreman doesn't take Holyfield's repeated hooks and stay upright.

Younger Foreman was faster on his feet he could move as evidenced vs Frazier where he turned Joe constantly and then dropped bombs.

You guys talk like George Foreman was just a bum in his youth....he was a freak of nature!

[Mr140]

Well he was not very smart fighter i mean Ali total tricked the shit out of him he should not have lost that fight then Young outboxed him pretty clearly. Holyfeild in prime was pretty hard to put away and he was a very good boxer with underrated power that took its tool on fighters.

[Spicoli]

It must be said that if Foreman was in his 20's when he fought Holyfield there's all likelihood he would have knocked Evander out.....he rocked the crap out of him when he was in his 40's...now add in some better footwork, some faster hands...that doesn't look great for Evander IMO

You don't really think that the younger Foreman had better footwork do you ? Given Foremans similar weight, tightly wound approach and porous defense I think the same Holyfield eats him up. That Foreman doesn't take Holyfield's repeated hooks and stay upright.

Younger Foreman was faster on his feet he could move as evidenced vs Frazier where he turned Joe constantly and then dropped bombs.

You guys talk like George Foreman was just a bum in his youth....he was a freak of nature!

Love me some Foreman, but he-they ain't beating Holyfield . I get he was literally faster..younger and lighter than returning George, but he could also be heavy on them and sloppy. old George was so much more sure on his feet. Aware and chugging along in that short step. He'd push and pull a guy into position, pretty subtle.

[Master]

It must be said that if Foreman was in his 20's when he fought Holyfield there's all likelihood he would have knocked Evander out.....he rocked the crap out of him when he was in his 40's...now add in some better footwork, some faster hands...that doesn't look great for Evander IMO

You don't really think that the younger Foreman had better footwork do you ? Given Foremans similar weight, tightly wound approach and porous defense I think the same Holyfield eats him up. That Foreman doesn't take Holyfield's repeated hooks and stay upright.

Younger Foreman was faster on his feet he could move as evidenced vs Frazier where he turned Joe constantly and then dropped bombs.

You guys talk like George Foreman was just a bum in his youth....he was a freak of nature!

Love me some Foreman, but he-they ain't beating Holyfield . I get he was literally faster..younger and lighter than returning George, but he could also be heavy on them and sloppy. old George was so much more sure on his feet. Aware and chugging along in that short step. He'd push and pull a guy into position, pretty subtle.

Holyfield was not the smartest fighter, remember Holmes saying he is strong but not clever. Holyfield fought dumb against Bowe the first time and if he did the same against Foreman he could get knocked out.

[Douglas]

Prior to Kevin Rooneys departure, Tyson wins (In my opinion, Tyson would've retired undefeated if he'd not fired Rooney).

But in the early 90's, Tyson would have the potential to win, but only if he has the sense to fight smart like Holyfield and Morrison did by sticking and moving and not standing still in front of him. However, and no offense to Mike, I don't think he would have. I believe eventually he would start brawling trying to knock Foreman out, and WHAM! Down in one punch.

[Master]

Prior to Kevin Rooneys departure, Tyson wins (In my opinion, Tyson would've retired undefeated if he'd not fired Rooney).

But in the early 90's, Tyson would have the potential to win, but only if he has the sense to fight smart like Holyfield and Morrison did by sticking and moving and not standing still in front of him. However, and no offense to Mike, I don't think he would have. I believe eventually he would start brawling trying to knock Foreman out, and WHAM! Down in one punch.

Tyson beat Ruddock who was more dangerous at the time than Foreman. If he can stand and trade with that puncher, Tyson could do it against Big George. Prime Tyson moved to the sides but this 24 year old version was less disciplined which was why the fights with Donovan were tough fights.

[Douglas]

Prior to Kevin Rooneys departure, Tyson wins (In my opinion, Tyson would've retired undefeated if he'd not fired Rooney).

But in the early 90's, Tyson would have the potential to win, but only if he has the sense to fight smart like Holyfield and Morrison did by sticking and moving and not standing still in front of him. However, and no offense to Mike, I don't think he would have. I believe eventually he would start brawling trying to knock Foreman out, and WHAM! Down in one punch.

Tyson beat Ruddock who was more dangerous at the time than Foreman. If he can stand and trade with that puncher, Tyson could do it against Big George. Prime Tyson moved to the sides but this 24 year old version was less disciplined which was why the fights with Donovan were tough fights.

I think Tyson would dominate the first several rounds against Foreman, but would later get tired of moving around and then get tagged not unlike Micheal Moorer.

[Mr140]

Well i am not really sure who would of won the fight i think Tyson was better on the comeback then when he lost to Douglas. I mean some of best wins were before he lost to Holyfeild and Foreman was better when he was younger but lacked some ring smarts at times.

[Master]

Prior to Kevin Rooneys departure, Tyson wins (In my opinion, Tyson would've retired undefeated if he'd not fired Rooney).

But in the early 90's, Tyson would have the potential to win, but only if he has the sense to fight smart like Holyfield and Morrison did by sticking and moving and not standing still in front of him. However, and no offense to Mike, I don't think he would have. I believe eventually he would start brawling trying to knock Foreman out, and WHAM! Down in one punch.

Tyson beat Ruddock who was more dangerous at the time than Foreman. If he can stand and trade with that puncher, Tyson could do it against Big George. Prime Tyson moved to the sides but this 24 year old version was less disciplined which was why the fights with Donovan were tough fights.

I think Tyson would dominate the first several rounds against Foreman, but would later get tired of moving around and then get tagged not unlike Micheal Moorer.

Foreman was no spring chicken either so he could tire from the punches he would take.

[Beanflicker]

I think Tyson would dominate the first several rounds against Foreman, but would later get tired of moving around and then get tagged not unlike Micheal Moorer.

You're kind of talking about Tyson like he's a stick and move boxer.

Could a 40 year old, 260lb Foreman keep the wind in his sails after engaging Tyson for several rounds and taking Tyson's body attack?

Tyson had a great chin in his day, not really comparable to the often rocked, often dropped Michael Moorer.

[mikeeod]

Prior to Kevin Rooneys departure, Tyson wins (In my opinion, Tyson would've retired undefeated if he'd not fired Rooney).

But in the early 90's, Tyson would have the potential to win, but only if he has the sense to fight smart like Holyfield and Morrison did by sticking and moving and not standing still in front of him. However, and no offense to Mike, I don't think he would have. I believe eventually he would start brawling trying to knock Foreman out, and WHAM! Down in one punch.

Tyson beat Ruddock who was more dangerous at the time than Foreman. If he can stand and trade with that puncher, Tyson could do it against Big George. Prime Tyson moved to the sides but this 24 year old version was less disciplined which was why the fights with Donovan were tough fights.

Ruddock made his name off of a devastating knockout of a shot Dokes and two losses vs Tyson. He was a one arm fighter with poor stamina, no jab, a decent chin (at best) and compketely one dimensional. No way was Ruddock EVER more of a threat than George. Lennox destroyed the Ruddock myth inside of three rounds.

Tyson was never overly impressive when the other guy could take his punches, and George had a great chin and excellent durability. Tyson won't jab n move like he needed to, or fight the counter punching fight that Evander did. George pushes Mike back, manhandles him and punishes him for the late stoppage. Style wise this is a horrible match up for Tyson.

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[tysonesque]

Prior to Kevin Rooneys departure, Tyson wins (In my opinion, Tyson would've retired undefeated if he'd not fired Rooney).

But in the early 90's, Tyson would have the potential to win, but only if he has the sense to fight smart like Holyfield and Morrison did by sticking and moving and not standing still in front of him. However, and no offense to Mike, I don't think he would have. I believe eventually he would start brawling trying to knock Foreman out, and WHAM! Down in one punch.

Tyson beat Ruddock who was more dangerous at the time than Foreman. If he can stand and trade with that puncher, Tyson could do it against Big George. Prime Tyson moved to the sides but this 24 year old version was less disciplined which was why the fights with Donovan were tough fights.

Ruddock made his name off of a devastating knockout of a shot Dokes and two losses vs Tyson. He was a one arm fighter with poor stamina, no jab, a decent chin (at best) and compketely one dimensional. No way was Ruddock EVER more of a threat than George. Lennox destroyed the Ruddock myth inside of three rounds.

Tyson was never overly impressive when the other guy could take his punches, and George had a great chin and excellent durability. Tyson won't jab n move like he needed to, or fight the counter punching fight that Evander did. George pushes Mike back, manhandles him and punishes him for the late stoppage. Style wise this is a horrible match up for Tyson.

Style wise, it's a perfect match up for Tyson.

A big, slow guy who is massive and an easy target. Tyson wouldn't have been able to miss him! 1991 Foreman was nothing more than an even slower Frank Bruno but with a decent chin. Foreman would have taken an absolute beating. He couldn't even knock out Alex Stewart for crying out loud. Tyson had a very good chin and there's no way he's going down from the tiny number of punches Foreman would have managed to land.

Ruddock was never the same after his fights with Tyson. Tyson hit him with every punch under the sun and broke his jaw. In those days, plenty of fighters were never the same again after Tyson was finished with them. 1991 Ruddock is a far more dangerous opponent than a lumbering and fat George Foreman.