1991 George Foreman KNOCKS OUT 1991 Mike Tyson

[mikeeod]

Prior to Kevin Rooneys departure, Tyson wins (In my opinion, Tyson would've retired undefeated if he'd not fired Rooney).

But in the early 90's, Tyson would have the potential to win, but only if he has the sense to fight smart like Holyfield and Morrison did by sticking and moving and not standing still in front of him. However, and no offense to Mike, I don't think he would have. I believe eventually he would start brawling trying to knock Foreman out, and WHAM! Down in one punch.

Tyson beat Ruddock who was more dangerous at the time than Foreman. If he can stand and trade with that puncher, Tyson could do it against Big George. Prime Tyson moved to the sides but this 24 year old version was less disciplined which was why the fights with Donovan were tough fights.

Ruddock made his name off of a devastating knockout of a shot Dokes and two losses vs Tyson. He was a one arm fighter with poor stamina, no jab, a decent chin (at best) and compketely one dimensional. No way was Ruddock EVER more of a threat than George. Lennox destroyed the Ruddock myth inside of three rounds.

Tyson was never overly impressive when the other guy could take his punches, and George had a great chin and excellent durability. Tyson won't jab n move like he needed to, or fight the counter punching fight that Evander did. George pushes Mike back, manhandles him and punishes him for the late stoppage. Style wise this is a horrible match up for Tyson.

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[tysonesque]

Prior to Kevin Rooneys departure, Tyson wins (In my opinion, Tyson would've retired undefeated if he'd not fired Rooney).

But in the early 90's, Tyson would have the potential to win, but only if he has the sense to fight smart like Holyfield and Morrison did by sticking and moving and not standing still in front of him. However, and no offense to Mike, I don't think he would have. I believe eventually he would start brawling trying to knock Foreman out, and WHAM! Down in one punch.

Tyson beat Ruddock who was more dangerous at the time than Foreman. If he can stand and trade with that puncher, Tyson could do it against Big George. Prime Tyson moved to the sides but this 24 year old version was less disciplined which was why the fights with Donovan were tough fights.

Ruddock made his name off of a devastating knockout of a shot Dokes and two losses vs Tyson. He was a one arm fighter with poor stamina, no jab, a decent chin (at best) and compketely one dimensional. No way was Ruddock EVER more of a threat than George. Lennox destroyed the Ruddock myth inside of three rounds.

Tyson was never overly impressive when the other guy could take his punches, and George had a great chin and excellent durability. Tyson won't jab n move like he needed to, or fight the counter punching fight that Evander did. George pushes Mike back, manhandles him and punishes him for the late stoppage. Style wise this is a horrible match up for Tyson.

Style wise, it's a perfect match up for Tyson.

A big, slow guy who is massive and an easy target. Tyson wouldn't have been able to miss him! 1991 Foreman was nothing more than an even slower Frank Bruno but with a decent chin. Foreman would have taken an absolute beating. He couldn't even knock out Alex Stewart for crying out loud. Tyson had a very good chin and there's no way he's going down from the tiny number of punches Foreman would have managed to land.

Ruddock was never the same after his fights with Tyson. Tyson hit him with every punch under the sun and broke his jaw. In those days, plenty of fighters were never the same again after Tyson was finished with them. 1991 Ruddock is a far more dangerous opponent than a lumbering and fat George Foreman.

[El Kabong]

Rudduck was SOOOOO dangerous that he never became the lineal heavyweight champion of the world.....unlike "fat lumbering" George Foreman

Foreman lasted 12 with Holyfield...that's 12 in 1 fight.....Tyson lasted 14 in two fights vs Evander. But obviously Holyfield punched harder than Big George right?

[Master]

Rudduck was SOOOOO dangerous that he never became the lineal heavyweight champion of the world.....unlike "fat lumbering" George Foreman

Foreman lasted 12 with Holyfield...that's 12 in 1 fight.....Tyson lasted 14 in two fights vs Evander. But obviously Holyfield punched harder than Big George right?

Lovely mixing up of fighters, you know better.

Tysonesque says it all. I can do no better.

[Beanflicker]

We Tyson backers rest our case!

[ono]

Imagine if Ali chilled out on the ropes for 8 rounds against a Prime Tyson?

[Beanflicker]

Imagine if Ali chilled out on the ropes for 8 rounds against a Prime Tyson?

Ali wouldn't have lasted 2 rounds doing that shit. Tyson's speed would have ate him alive. He'd destroy him with that brilliant right hook body, right uppercut combo.

Tyson had the speed of Ali with the power of George Foreman... what a combination!

[El Kabong]

Here's the thing though 'Big' George in his comeback was never knocked down, never KO'd, never stopped at all...the guys that beat 40+ year old Foreman had to stick and move....and that kind of fight ain't to Mike Tyson's strength.

Now Tyson on the other hand, when he was beaten he was beaten by guys who took what he threw, fired back, and didn't back down.....hmmmm who does THAT remind me of?


Could Tyson's power have affected Foreman? Sure. Could Foreman's power have affected Tyson? ABSOLUTELY! Who had the better chin at that point? That's up for debate actually.


I say Foreman wins because everything mentally and psychologically that was irking Tyson, Foreman had already been through and come to grips with....Foreman wasn't the same after losing to Ali UNTIL his comeback and even then he didn't want to hurt anyone but once he got back in the groove he was better than ever. Tyson really never recovered that we could see, he was still a good fighter, but the peak of the division eluded him....it didn't elude Foreman.

[Master]

Here's the thing though 'Big' George in his comeback was never knocked down, never KO'd, never stopped at all...the guys that beat 40+ year old Foreman had to stick and move....and that kind of fight ain't to Mike Tyson's strength.

Now Tyson on the other hand, when he was beaten he was beaten by guys who took what he threw, fired back, and didn't back down.....hmmmm who does THAT remind me of?


Could Tyson's power have affected Foreman? Sure. Could Foreman's power have affected Tyson? ABSOLUTELY! Who had the better chin at that point? That's up for debate actually.


I say Foreman wins because everything mentally and psychologically that was irking Tyson, Foreman had already been through and come to grips with....Foreman wasn't the same after losing to Ali UNTIL his comeback and even then he didn't want to hurt anyone but once he got back in the groove he was better than ever. Tyson really never recovered that we could see, he was still a good fighter, but the peak of the division eluded him....it didn't elude Foreman.

I defiantly understand where you are coming from Foreman had a sold chin but even this version of Tyson could put some damage on George. A peak Tyson would not have stood in front of George. Tyson punched and moved from different sides. George would try and push Tyson back but that would not cause Mike the distress it cause Frazier because Tyson had more to his skills than Joe.

[El Kabong]

I defiantly understand where you are coming from Foreman had a sold chin but even this version of Tyson could put some damage on George. A peak Tyson would not have stood in front of George. Tyson punched and moved from different sides. George would try and push Tyson back but that would not cause Mike the distress it cause Frazier because Tyson had more to his skills than Joe.

Really? Foreman steered Frazier not because Frazier was unskilled, it was because Frazier was rushing in and Foreman turned him, pivoted, and let the bombs go before Joe had reset himself. Tyson might have quicker feet but again Foreman had the longer arms, longer reach, it would be like the Falkland Islands.....Foreman would set up outside of Tyson's range and let loose on him....could Tyson bob and weave his way inside....maybe but there George can tie him up and lean on him or ole Tyson to the side the way he did Joe and the manner in which he did that gave Frazier no chance to retaliate, it threw him off balance and he had to completely reset and work his way back in vs George. Tyson used angles, yes, but he was NEVER a fighter who fought going backwards like an Ali or Lennox Lewis, or Klitschko brother....Tyson was never the stick and move sweet science guy. Did he have good defense? Sure, but his defense was a high guard and head movement, not using his footwork to get out of the way. Similarly Joe Frazier was never a guy that used footwork to get out of the way it was a Philly Shell/Cross block defense and continuous headmovement.

Tyson would connect on Foreman, but at GREAT risk to being caught on the way in...and on the way in Tyson would have to avoid the 1-2 of Foreman and once in Tyson would have to avoid the uppercut. Once inside how does Tyson work out? Tyson would typically rip off a combination and tie up or if the combination did damage he'd circle to a side to let loose another combination....tying up vs any version of Foreman is bad news simply because he's bigger and stronger. Circling out even vs a hurt Foreman is tough because he had KO power in both hands and he could unload a punch that even if blocked would knock you so badly off balance that it would give George the chance to load up for another one.

[denilson200]

The 91 Foreman would have had no chance against Tyson.