Chisora v Ustinov July 11th Manchester

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Oh and Cunningham was calling out Haye Cunningham calls out Haye | Boxing News | Sky Sports

He never cleaned up cruiser. Cleaning up means beating the majority of the contenders or top ten. Haye only fought 2! There was Adamek, Cunningham, Bell, Braithwaite, Huck.

I dont think you forgot about Ruiz getting sparked by Tua. I think you had to google.....

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Oh and Cunningham was calling out Haye Cunningham calls out Haye | Boxing News | Sky Sports

He never cleaned up cruiser. Cleaning up means beating the majority of the contenders or top ten. Haye only fought 2! There was Adamek, Cunningham, Bell, Braithwaite, Huck.

I dont think you forgot about Ruiz getting sparked by Tua. I think you had to google.....

Braithwaite was beaten by Macca who then got bombed out in 2 by Haye so what would be the point of Braithwaite? Bell disappeared off the radar after Mormeck beat him. Adamek had his first Cruiserwight fight after Haye moved up in weight. Huck had lost to Cunningham and wasn't world level at that point. Cunningham was the only logical fight left at Cruiser and there was no money in it. Did Don King call Haye and make him an offer? It is hardly ducking if you're taking a bigger challenge against bigger, heavier and more skilled punchers. The money was at Heavy and he'd won 3/4 titles, beaten the #1 guy and become the lineal champ. You question my boxing knowledge but you think a guy that chased down Wladimir Klitschko ducked Steve Cunningham? Explain the logic in that one.

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@ross your assessment of the chisora haye fight isnt how i saw it

chisora was pressuring him yes but landed next to nothing

[Dark Lord Al]

Its the old trick of lording the fighters that fury has beaten , to make him sound so much better.

His best wins -
Chisora blasted out by Haye.
Johnson blasted out be the novice Joshua.
Cunningham a former CW giving away 40lbs.
None of the above are punchers at top level , so lets face it fury has been carefully matched to get his rating and to protect the dodgy chin.

FACT!

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Oh and Cunningham was calling out Haye Cunningham calls out Haye | Boxing News | Sky Sports

He never cleaned up cruiser. Cleaning up means beating the majority of the contenders or top ten. Haye only fought 2! There was Adamek, Cunningham, Bell, Braithwaite, Huck.

I dont think you forgot about Ruiz getting sparked by Tua. I think you had to google.....

Braithwaite was beaten by Macca who then got bombed out in 2 by Haye so what would be the point of Braithwaite? Bell disappeared off the radar after Mormeck beat him. Adamek had his first Cruiserwight fight after Haye moved up in weight. Huck had lost to Cunningham and wasn't world level at that point. Cunningham was the only logical fight left at Cruiser and there was no money in it. Did Don King call Haye and make him an offer? It is hardly ducking if you're taking a bigger challenge against bigger, heavier and more skilled punchers. The money was at Heavy and he'd won 3/4 titles, beaten the #1 guy and become the lineal champ. You question my boxing knowledge but you think a guy that chased down Wladimir Klitschko ducked Steve Cunningham? Explain the logic in that one.

Your showing yourself up again. Did you even watch that rubbish?

Haye didnt chase down Wlad, it was the other way round. Haye "fought" Wlad the same as he did Harrison for the first couple if rounds and Valuev. Just not doing alot and skirting the ring. Haye was so poor he actually got warned becuase he kept throwing himself on the floor!

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Oh and Cunningham was calling out Haye Cunningham calls out Haye | Boxing News | Sky Sports

He never cleaned up cruiser. Cleaning up means beating the majority of the contenders or top ten. Haye only fought 2! There was Adamek, Cunningham, Bell, Braithwaite, Huck.

I dont think you forgot about Ruiz getting sparked by Tua. I think you had to google.....

Braithwaite was beaten by Macca who then got bombed out in 2 by Haye so what would be the point of Braithwaite? Bell disappeared off the radar after Mormeck beat him. Adamek had his first Cruiserwight fight after Haye moved up in weight. Huck had lost to Cunningham and wasn't world level at that point. Cunningham was the only logical fight left at Cruiser and there was no money in it. Did Don King call Haye and make him an offer? It is hardly ducking if you're taking a bigger challenge against bigger, heavier and more skilled punchers. The money was at Heavy and he'd won 3/4 titles, beaten the #1 guy and become the lineal champ. You question my boxing knowledge but you think a guy that chased down Wladimir Klitschko ducked Steve Cunningham? Explain the logic in that one.

Your showing yourself up again. Did you even watch that rubbish?

Haye didnt chase down Wlad, it was the other way round. Haye "fought" Wlad the same as he did Harrison for the first couple if rounds and Valuev. Just not doing alot and skirting the ring. Haye was so poor he actually got warned becuase he kept throwing himself on the floor!

He meant chased down as in pursued the fight, for fucks sake

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Oh and Cunningham was calling out Haye Cunningham calls out Haye | Boxing News | Sky Sports

He never cleaned up cruiser. Cleaning up means beating the majority of the contenders or top ten. Haye only fought 2! There was Adamek, Cunningham, Bell, Braithwaite, Huck.

I dont think you forgot about Ruiz getting sparked by Tua. I think you had to google.....

Braithwaite was beaten by Macca who then got bombed out in 2 by Haye so what would be the point of Braithwaite? Bell disappeared off the radar after Mormeck beat him. Adamek had his first Cruiserwight fight after Haye moved up in weight. Huck had lost to Cunningham and wasn't world level at that point. Cunningham was the only logical fight left at Cruiser and there was no money in it. Did Don King call Haye and make him an offer? It is hardly ducking if you're taking a bigger challenge against bigger, heavier and more skilled punchers. The money was at Heavy and he'd won 3/4 titles, beaten the #1 guy and become the lineal champ. You question my boxing knowledge but you think a guy that chased down Wladimir Klitschko ducked Steve Cunningham? Explain the logic in that one.

Your showing yourself up again. Did you even watch that rubbish?

Haye didnt chase down Wlad, it was the other way round. Haye "fought" Wlad the same as he did Harrison for the first couple if rounds and Valuev. Just not doing alot and skirting the ring. Haye was so poor he actually got warned becuase he kept throwing himself on the floor!

He meant chased down as in pursued the fight, for fucks sake

Ok then, ill revise my reply.

Cunningham would not give the rewards that Wlad would and Cunningham had just knocked out Huck and scared Haye up a weight.

He thought he could chin Wlad quick like Sanders did. His whole career was based off of watching that fight and trying to get Wlad which is why he has no interest in fighting any other good heavies that dont have multiple losses which is why he avoided Tyson.

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Right, because it was clearly semantics Cunningham was a very good fighter, and he would have certainly been a test for Haye at cruiserweight, but that's about the only substance to what you are saying and nobody is arguing it. You are just making up rubbish to make Tyson Fury look slightly better in your own estimation, which is already infallible.

[Primo Carnera]

Oh and Cunningham was calling out Haye Cunningham calls out Haye | Boxing News | Sky Sports

He never cleaned up cruiser. Cleaning up means beating the majority of the contenders or top ten. Haye only fought 2! There was Adamek, Cunningham, Bell, Braithwaite, Huck.

I dont think you forgot about Ruiz getting sparked by Tua. I think you had to google.....

Braithwaite was beaten by Macca who then got bombed out in 2 by Haye so what would be the point of Braithwaite? Bell disappeared off the radar after Mormeck beat him. Adamek had his first Cruiserwight fight after Haye moved up in weight. Huck had lost to Cunningham and wasn't world level at that point. Cunningham was the only logical fight left at Cruiser and there was no money in it. Did Don King call Haye and make him an offer? It is hardly ducking if you're taking a bigger challenge against bigger, heavier and more skilled punchers. The money was at Heavy and he'd won 3/4 titles, beaten the #1 guy and become the lineal champ. You question my boxing knowledge but you think a guy that chased down Wladimir Klitschko ducked Steve Cunningham? Explain the logic in that one.

Your showing yourself up again. Did you even watch that rubbish?

Haye didnt chase down Wlad, it was the other way round. Haye "fought" Wlad the same as he did Harrison for the first couple if rounds and Valuev. Just not doing alot and skirting the ring. Haye was so poor he actually got warned becuase he kept throwing himself on the floor!

He meant chased down as in pursued the fight, for fucks sake

Ok then, ill revise my reply.

Cunningham would not give the rewards that Wlad would and Cunningham had just knocked out Huck and scared Haye up a weight.

He thought he could chin Wlad quick like Sanders did. His whole career was based off of watching that fight and trying to get Wlad which is why he has no interest in fighting any other good heavies that dont have multiple losses which is why he avoided Tyson.

Fair play Ross, you are a fucking dreamer. People come up with facts and you counter with unsubstantiated opinions.
1. When "Cunningham called out Haye", Haye had 3 belts, Cunningham 1. That makes Haye the "A" side if you like. As was already stated , he was always moving up because that's where're the money was. Cunningham can call out Haye as much as he likes, but he wouldn't have come here to fight Haye. Do you think Haye would delay stepping up to fight Cunningham in the States for shit money?
Now, while you're mulling that one over, please explain that according to your logic of Haye ducking fighters, how we should see Fury dropping out ;
1. Versus Pulev for a European title and Mandatory World Title position.
2. Versus David Price for the British title in order to fight a 40 year old taxi driver for the Irish HW title!!!!
Answers on a postcard please or online at www.ilovetysonandfuckthefacts.com!

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Fury avoided neither.

The following is from Peter Fury and Maloney nor Price have ever denied the following.

"It is a fact that Golem was offered £125,000 by Mick Hennessy to box Tyson on Channel 5. Golem declined this offer quoting the fight would have to go on Sky TV, only to find out later that not only did he refuse the fight with Price, the reason he gave regarding Sky was false as he never actually had a deal with Sky.

He screwed that deal up and lied to the public and us with his bogus Sky deal! Then we hear Golem spouting about 'Chicken Tyson' refuses to fight etc, when the fact is he lost his sky deal and now he's got Price fighting on BoxNation! Whereby if Golem would have taken the offer, the Price fight would have gone on terrestrial TV and Price would have been paid well and the rest history."

Fury's Trainer Rips Maloney Over Past David Price Talks - Boxing News

As for Pulev. How is being offered millions to fight a supposed better, more dangerous and higher profile fighter avoiding Price? Thats like saying Mayweather avoided Khan by fighting Pacquiao!!