gay marriage in the US

[Andre]

You need to go by the New testament now you are saved, not the old. You are judging the gays from the old testaments writings. Those days are past those laws are no more.
The New testament is (the word of God)that saved you,so stick with what Luke has written there and cease your judgments, In Jesus name!

You cannot "go by" the NT, Jesus is the NT, New Covenant, that was the whole point of it.

God "fired" or "disqualified" the best of the best, the Top Gun, to qualify us!
Why is it so hard for you to understand?

Have you ever eaten shellfish or worn clothes made from more than one type of fibre?

@Kirkland Laing
Is this what you call shellfish?
http://www.doncasterfishmonger.com/s...ery-Course.jpg

What do you mean by clothes with more than one fiber, post pic

You are joking ?
You really dont know what he is talking about?

[SugarBoxing]

You need to go by the New testament now you are saved, not the old. You are judging the gays from the old testaments writings. Those days are past those laws are no more.
The New testament is (the word of God)that saved you,so stick with what Luke has written there and cease your judgments, In Jesus name!

You cannot "go by" the NT, Jesus is the NT, New Covenant, that was the whole point of it.

God "fired" or "disqualified" the best of the best, the Top Gun, to qualify us!
Why is it so hard for you to understand?

Have you ever eaten shellfish or worn clothes made from more than one type of fibre?

@Kirkland Laing
Is this what you call shellfish?
http://www.doncasterfishmonger.com/s...ery-Course.jpg

What do you mean by clothes with more than one fiber, post pic

You are joking ?
You really dont know what he is talking about?

Maybe the fiber clothes refers to some gay terminology, I guess?

the shellfish - no idea, honestly, what it means at subliminal level

[Andre]

You need to go by the New testament now you are saved, not the old. You are judging the gays from the old testaments writings. Those days are past those laws are no more.
The New testament is (the word of God)that saved you,so stick with what Luke has written there and cease your judgments, In Jesus name!

You cannot "go by" the NT, Jesus is the NT, New Covenant, that was the whole point of it.

God "fired" or "disqualified" the best of the best, the Top Gun, to qualify us!
Why is it so hard for you to understand?

Have you ever eaten shellfish or worn clothes made from more than one type of fibre?

@Kirkland Laing
Is this what you call shellfish?
http://www.doncasterfishmonger.com/s...ery-Course.jpg

What do you mean by clothes with more than one fiber, post pic

You are joking ?
You really dont know what he is talking about?

Maybe the fiber clothes refers to some gay terminology, I guess?

the shellfish - no idea, honestly, what it means at subliminal level

Both a sin to consume shellfish and wear mixed cloth is his point.

It is from exactly the same the book you got your judgment from over homosexuals.

Who'd have guessed?

I suppose you would have had to study it to know.

[Beanz]

You need to go by the New testament now you are saved, not the old. You are judging the gays from the old testaments writings. Those days are past those laws are no more.
The New testament is (the word of God)that saved you,so stick with what Luke has written there and cease your judgments, In Jesus name!

You cannot "go by" the NT, Jesus is the NT, New Covenant, that was the whole point of it.

God "fired" or "disqualified" the best of the best, the Top Gun, to qualify us!
Why is it so hard for you to understand?

Have you ever eaten shellfish or worn clothes made from more than one type of fibre?

@Kirkland Laing
Is this what you call shellfish?
http://www.doncasterfishmonger.com/s...ery-Course.jpg

What do you mean by clothes with more than one fiber, post pic

You are joking ?
You really dont know what he is talking about?

Maybe the fiber clothes refers to some gay terminology, I guess?

the shellfish - no idea, honestly, what it means at subliminal level

Both a sin to consume shellfish and wear mixed cloth is his point.

It is from exactly the same the book you got your judgment from over homosexuals.

Who'd have guessed?

I suppose you would have had to study it to know.

It is interesting and quite revealing to know why also. This is during the times of Diaspora, and makes up what are known as the laws of separation. Obviously for a people dispersed with no land to keep it's people, language and culture together, these laws were motivated from a desire to keep people distinct an separate. In the following chapter of Leviticus you will find the command for a man not to cut the hair on the corners and sides of his face. This was again to keep that identity separate and alive so as not to be mistaken for a clean shaven Egyptian back then and a Roman later on. It is why Orthodox Jews still maintain side locks (peyos).

This sense of separateness can also be seen in Isreal's concept of holiness. This is not a sense of holiness that emerges from fear of displeasing a punishing deity, it is one derived from the Justice that deities own holiness personifies. This is where democracy comes from. A concern for the people not the object of devotion.

First to understand this, a misunderstanding needs to be erased. Israel, the Hebrew prophets and Judaism are not the same thing.

More on this later

[Gandalf]

You two take this stuff far too seriously. I do not share the views of NV and neither do I share the faith of Walrus, but I appreciate the humour and character of them both. In the past I would get disturbed by religious based posts, but found that my views were likewise intolerant of others. You have to chill out and respect that different people are coming from a different place. If faith helps Walrus in life, then all power to the man. If faith is NV's way of handling a frankly irrational world, then the same to him. If someone wants to judge then that is up to them. Does it reflect on them? Of course it does, but that is their call to make. In some way or another we are always judging others. Andre likes to judge the Chinese, Greenbeanz likes to judge music taste, I like to judge Tony Blair.

[Beanz]

You two take this stuff far too seriously. I do not share the views of NV and neither do I share the faith of Walrus, but I appreciate the humour and character of them both. In the past I would get disturbed by religious based posts, but found that my views were likewise intolerant of others. You have to chill out and respect that different people are coming from a different place. If faith helps Walrus in life, then all power to the man. If faith is NV's way of handling a frankly irrational world, then the same to him. If someone wants to judge then that is up to them. Does it reflect on them? Of course it does, but that is their call to make. In some way or another we are always judging others. Andre likes to judge the Chinese, Greenbeanz likes to judge music taste, I like to judge Tony Blair.

With all due respect Miles, I don't really know what your point is ? I am not angry, my posts are not aggressive and neither are Andre's. So what do you mean by chill out ? Are we all just supposed to stop debating and expressing different opinions now ? I can of course see the humour in both posters, though Walrus sometimes has a sense of humour bypass when reading other people's posts.

[SlimTrae]

For the record my point wasn't about where gays get married-church.
Or who marries them-pastors etc.
It was for those who choose to use a bible.
Be it in the park at the hall of justice, or at home.

If they read that verse where it said we come together in the sight of God.
Or that part about let no man put asunder what God....

That book claims men who lay with another man is detestable.

If gays don't use the bible or those words, particularly (God) then i stand corrected.

If they do: how is that not ridiculous?

[walrus]

You two take this stuff far too seriously. I do not share the views of NV and neither do I share the faith of Walrus, but I appreciate the humour and character of them both. In the past I would get disturbed by religious based posts, but found that my views were likewise intolerant of others. You have to chill out and respect that different people are coming from a different place. If faith helps Walrus in life, then all power to the man. If faith is NV's way of handling a frankly irrational world, then the same to him. If someone wants to judge then that is up to them. Does it reflect on them? Of course it does, but that is their call to make. In some way or another we are always judging others. Andre likes to judge the Chinese, Greenbeanz likes to judge music taste, I like to judge Tony Blair.

With all due respect Miles, I don't really know what your point is ? I am not angry, my posts are not aggressive and neither are Andre's. So what do you mean by chill out ? Are we all just supposed to stop debating and expressing different opinions now ? I can of course see the humour in both posters, though Walrus sometimes has a sense of humour bypass when reading other people's posts.

Quite the opposite, I see humour in every single post

[Gandalf]

You two take this stuff far too seriously. I do not share the views of NV and neither do I share the faith of Walrus, but I appreciate the humour and character of them both. In the past I would get disturbed by religious based posts, but found that my views were likewise intolerant of others. You have to chill out and respect that different people are coming from a different place. If faith helps Walrus in life, then all power to the man. If faith is NV's way of handling a frankly irrational world, then the same to him. If someone wants to judge then that is up to them. Does it reflect on them? Of course it does, but that is their call to make. In some way or another we are always judging others. Andre likes to judge the Chinese, Greenbeanz likes to judge music taste, I like to judge Tony Blair.

With all due respect Miles, I don't really know what your point is ? I am not angry, my posts are not aggressive and neither are Andre's. So what do you mean by chill out ? Are we all just supposed to stop debating and expressing different opinions now ? I can of course see the humour in both posters, though Walrus sometimes has a sense of humour bypass when reading other people's posts.

Andre was there telling people they 'should not judge' and yet that is what people do constantly. If NV wants to have his Bible based fun, then so what? People are entitled to their views no matter how odd. I doubt he goes around confronting gay people or anything like that. It's odd to take it so seriously. Also, I sometimes thinks NV picks up on some interesting points such as the concept that homosexuals are oftentimes the victims of abuse. This is a pattern that I have noticed too having seen it in life, but also in examples of well known people I respect. Not always the case, but far too common to be ignored. It is something that goes somewhat unspoken.

People can express what they like, but certainly in my own case, I have more time for different perspectives than I used to. I respect the rights of homosexuals, but I am also cool with groups that don't want it promoted or do think it is immoral. That is up to the individual and should be respected too.

[walrus]

You two take this stuff far too seriously. I do not share the views of NV and neither do I share the faith of Walrus, but I appreciate the humour and character of them both. In the past I would get disturbed by religious based posts, but found that my views were likewise intolerant of others. You have to chill out and respect that different people are coming from a different place. If faith helps Walrus in life, then all power to the man. If faith is NV's way of handling a frankly irrational world, then the same to him. If someone wants to judge then that is up to them. Does it reflect on them? Of course it does, but that is their call to make. In some way or another we are always judging others. Andre likes to judge the Chinese, Greenbeanz likes to judge music taste, I like to judge Tony Blair.

@Gandalf, thanks for sticking up for me, it's fine nonetheless, I'm used to Christianity being attacked and criticized, it happens quite often in the US media. As long as People aren't saying anything about Islam, Christianity is the accepted prejudice.

[brocktonblockbust]

if a man wants to drink the mucous of 20 infected camels, well thats fine with me. I AINT DRINKIN IT!

if a man wants to jump off the Empire State building with a Japanese plum in his mouth, well thats fine with me. cuz I AINT DOIN IT!

if a man wants to slice up his eyeballs with a Gillete Mach 3 razor, well that is A-OK with me cuz I AINT DOIN IT!!!

so if a man wants to get an erection when he is naked with another man and then stick his cock up the shit-hole of another man, well thats just fine with me too, cuz I AINT FUCKING DOIN IT!!!!

[Andre]

You two take this stuff far too seriously. I do not share the views of NV and neither do I share the faith of Walrus, but I appreciate the humour and character of them both. In the past I would get disturbed by religious based posts, but found that my views were likewise intolerant of others. You have to chill out and respect that different people are coming from a different place. If faith helps Walrus in life, then all power to the man. If faith is NV's way of handling a frankly irrational world, then the same to him. If someone wants to judge then that is up to them. Does it reflect on them? Of course it does, but that is their call to make. In some way or another we are always judging others. Andre likes to judge the Chinese, Greenbeanz likes to judge music taste, I like to judge Tony Blair.

Im not the one handing out judgment and neg reps bro.