American confederate flag

[SlimTrae]

The point was made. you just decided to start of with...
You lost me there...

You responded with the Jesse post. I baited my hook because u haven't responded to any of my other posts here. My oft repeated statement here was..how the confederate flag discussion is being used to quiet down the American discussion of how so many claim racism don't exist. Then when it does...well that was just one person.

This isn't my first post on this thread.... so the fact that you responded to my claims or assertions 7 pages later... are very telling in what you will engage and or disengage in.
7 pages later, the Jesse thread u responded to. But it wasn't an out...




Ok, well when you weren't lost...

[walrus]

The point was made. you just decided to start of with...
You lost me there...

You responded with the Jesse post. I baited my hook because u haven't responded to any of my other posts here. My oft repeated statement here was..how the confederate flag discussion is being used to quiet down the American discussion of how so many claim racism don't exist. Then when it does...well that was just one person.

This isn't my first post on this thread.... so the fact that you responded to my claims or assertions 7 pages later... are very telling in what you will engage and or disengage in.
7 pages later, the Jesse thread u responded to. But it wasn't an out...




Ok, well when you weren't lost...

You seem to think I have thoughts in my mind that I don't. I asked for your opinion on the flag then I thanked or in not so many words. I never said racism doesn't exist. My wife is non Caucasian and I hear little snide remarks from time to time, I must stress not that often but it happens. My main point with this thread, going back to the beginning, was that I thought the state's should decide if they want the flag or not. I can't remember what was posted seven pages back, Jackson is kind of cool it's Sharpton that drives me nuts. I don't know if at this point you are calling me a racist, we all have our prejudice but I like to think I interact with equal respect to all my brethren, you are free to think other.

[SlimTrae]

hahaaaahaa.....No need to give your resume. Does this mean I can't privately p.m. you and say you are a cool mofo? Even if you are a dang tootin' conservative! I won't tell Sharpton if you don't tell Limbaugh!?

[walrus]

hahaaaahaa.....No need to give your resume. Does this mean I can't privately p.m. you and say you are a cool mofo? Even if you are a dang tootin' conservative! I won't tell Sharpton if you don't tell Limbaugh!?

You my friend can PM me anytime. I do like rush Limbaugh, but partly because I find him funny. I'm a registered independent but lean conservative. The threads seem to be going all over the place lately. It's fine but I work fourty hours in three days and I think my brain is mush.

[beenKOed]

The Confederate Flag has always been a slap in the face to blacks as a reminder of what once was.
The Confederate Flag has always stood for stupidity, ignorance, and blind pride. In my opinion!

[El Kabong]

The Confederate Flag has always been a slap in the face to blacks as a reminder of what once was.
The Confederate Flag has always stood for stupidity, ignorance, and blind pride. In my opinion!

Alright then my first question would be "Why then don't blacks feel the same way about the American flag, British flag, Dutch flag, Spanish flag, Portuguese flag, Brazilian flag, etc?" seeing how those flags were on the slave ships and NOT any form of the Confederate flag.

You opinion differs greatly from the opinions of THESE folks






....now the tricky thing with "feelings" and "emotions" is that we all have them, but which ones matter more because right now we're at a crossroads and 1 group is saying "that's a hateful flag, it always has been and it always will be" and we have another group that feels differently.....who is right? Are you right because your feelings are hurt by the flag? Are those people in the video right because of their views? I've got my views and that is the flag doesn't belong at the South Carolina state capitol because of why is was put there, HOWEVER, the flag itself should be flown/shown at memorials, Battlefields, at markers for Confederate dead (as the widows and orphans of the Confederacy started what we now call Memorial Day), and privately by whoever so chooses to fly the flag.

I choose liberty over censorship every single time

[walrus]

I only watched the middle one but it was quite good. They put better that which I've been attempting to say.

[beenKOed]

The Confederate Flag has always been a slap in the face to blacks as a reminder of what once was.
The Confederate Flag has always stood for stupidity, ignorance, and blind pride. In my opinion!

Alright then my first question would be "Why then don't blacks feel the same way about the American flag, British flag, Dutch flag, Spanish flag, Portuguese flag, Brazilian flag, etc?" seeing how those flags were on the slave ships and NOT any form of the Confederate flag.

You opinion differs greatly from the opinions of THESE folks






....now the tricky thing with "feelings" and "emotions" is that we all have them, but which ones matter more because right now we're at a crossroads and 1 group is saying "that's a hateful flag, it always has been and it always will be" and we have another group that feels differently.....who is right? Are you right because your feelings are hurt by the flag? Are those people in the video right because of their views? I've got my views and that is the flag doesn't belong at the South Carolina state capitol because of why is was put there, HOWEVER, the flag itself should be flown/shown at memorials, Battlefields, at markers for Confederate dead (as the widows and orphans of the Confederacy started what we now call Memorial Day), and privately by whoever so chooses to fly the flag.

I choose liberty over censorship every single time

I'll say it one more time, maybe it will get through this time. Doubtful but the possibility exists.
The Confederate Flag is a slap in the face to blacks.
The Confederate Flag has always stood for stupidity, ignorance, and blind pride.
If you can't understand why that flag is offensive to blacks and it's time to relegate it to museums I'm not going to waste my time talking to you.
I couldn't understand why it was allowed to fly when I was 15. Are you really saying that you never wondered about the wrongness of it?

[El Kabong]

I'll say it one more time, maybe it will get through this time. Doubtful but the possibility exists.
The Confederate Flag is a slap in the face to blacks.
The Confederate Flag has always stood for stupidity, ignorance, and blind pride.
If you can't understand why that flag is offensive to blacks and it's time to relegate it to museums I'm not going to waste my time talking to you.
I couldn't understand why it was allowed to fly when I was 15. Are you really saying that you never wondered about the wrongness of it?

Well it's awful nice that you decided to be so condescending in your response. I know that it's a key factor in civil discourse to be as condescending as possible to get your point across because that's the only way to truly get a point across. I mean I'm not to be trusted to THINK for myself....I must be beaten into submission via a condescending tone. And to do it without answering any question I ask, nor saying "You know, I never thought of that" you're simply saying the world in general will be better off without the Battle Flag of Northern Virginia....fine, fine......say we do that, say we do exactly as you have said, my question would then be....


What next?


What will be the next "symbol of racism"? What will we blame the next shooting on? What will we blame the next ugly racist moment on?


Will the American flag be next? Or will 'Gone With The Wind' be next? Will Southern states have to change their flags as the overwhelming majority of them take from the original Flag of the Confederate States? Should states change their names? Should statues and monuments to Confederate generals be taken down? Streets be renamed? Should we even teach about the "Civil War"....I've forgotten more about that war than children are taught these days.


There WILL have to be something to take the place of the Battle flag, because I know progressive liberals and they do not retreat once they have their way, they keep marching forward until everyone learns to comply.

[El Kabong]

Nine Dead, 46 Wounded in Fourth of July Weekend Violence in Chicago | NBC Chicago

Ah yes, that damned flag made it's way to Chicago....and on the 4th of July weekend too!

[SlimTrae]

The Confederate Flag has always been a slap in the face to blacks as a reminder of what once was.
The Confederate Flag has always stood for stupidity, ignorance, and blind pride. In my opinion!

Alright then my first question would be "Why then don't blacks feel the same way about the American flag, British flag, Dutch flag, Spanish flag, Portuguese flag, Brazilian flag, etc?" seeing how those flags were on the slave ships and NOT any form of the Confederate flag.

You opinion differs greatly from the opinions of THESE folks






....now the tricky thing with "feelings" and "emotions" is that we all have them, but which ones matter more because right now we're at a crossroads and 1 group is saying "that's a hateful flag, it always has been and it always will be" and we have another group that feels differently.....who is right? Are you right because your feelings are hurt by the flag? Are those people in the video right because of their views? I've got my views and that is the flag doesn't belong at the South Carolina state capitol because of why is was put there, HOWEVER, the flag itself should be flown/shown at memorials, Battlefields, at markers for Confederate dead (as the widows and orphans of the Confederacy started what we now call Memorial Day), and privately by whoever so chooses to fly the flag.

I choose liberty over censorship every single time

Take this into consideration: If I find a liberal who believes in abortion, doubts God. Can I paste it here and say it represents all Whites? Let alone the smart and objective ones?
I don't think so.

If I find a confederate flag waiver on a youtube who claims blacks are monkeys, Mexicans are wetbacks and jews are the devil incarnate; does that mean it represent the totality of white Americans?
I don't think so.

Dude- you don't think there are blacks who defended slavery? I can find them and link it here if you request. I can find a black man who states the Klan has a right to state their case about the inferiority of blacks.

Does that mean the video expresses liberty?

Does that mean it is a logical representation of what is right? You put up videos of some old dude. not a family, not a nation, not a crew. And think that they are in their right mind?


I have looked at a lot of your links- most recently the link to all those polls. Kudos to that link.

But I wont even waste my time looking at these vids-- I looked at the last dude/video for a bout a minute -and when I saw him sitting all by himself, justifying what happened to his own people...Damn just imagine a Jew on a video justifying what Hitler did, an Chinese justifying the Japanese discrimination... a Bosnian justifying a Serb...
That last video- that old black hating negro...probably is sitting under the very tree he has seen his own hung from... and you presented that as what?

What black people should aspire to think and be like?