Evander Holyfield vs Wladimir Klitschko

[erics44]

fought withing the rules hollyfield woulod win

fought in germany under the usual wlad fight conditions wlad would hold on for 12 rounds and get the decision

[El Kabong]

fought withing the rules hollyfield woulod win

Including headbutts?

[Beanflicker]

I wonder if either of them fought without the use of steroids or PEDs in their entire career? It'd be interesting to know.

Two great fighters, but two great lab experiments also.

[El Kabong]

I wonder if either of them fought without the use of steroids or PEDs in their entire career? It'd be interesting to know.

Two great fighters, but two great lab experiments also.

Proof of Wlad using PEDS?

[Beanflicker]

This is not how 40 year old men look, especially 40 year old men that are doing heavy cardio everyday.

No... just, no.

[El Kabong]

The "awww just look at him" is a very weak argument....what do you want him to have a pot belly? Would that be ok? How unmuscular should Wlad look in order for you to feel ok with his performances?

Need I remind you that James Toney was popped for PEDs and he looked EXACTLY like a fat old man....so your "just look" theory has it's holes

[Beanflicker]

Need I remind you that James Toney was popped for PEDs and he looked EXACTLY like a fat old man....so your "just look" theory has it's holes

Yeah I've seen fat guys test positive for PEDs, I've seen guys skinny as a rake test positive for PEDs.

But when I see a professional athlete looking better at 40 than he did in his 20s, and I know that said athlete isn't being properly drug tests, ehhhh nope. Sorry, I don't buy it. Guys get worn down, they lose muscle mass and their recovery takes much longer.

The Germans have been on the cutting edge of steroids and PEDs longer than any country.

[erics44]

fought withing the rules hollyfield woulod win

Including headbutts?

very true big kabongs

[X]

I think this would be a good fight. We all know Wlad is an intelligent, pretty masterful guy at sticking to a game plan. He's a good fast puncher too and uses his height and weight very well.

Holyfield would not be at all bothered about his size, he went toe to toe with prime Bowe, who I rate as at least as good as Wlad (for a short time)

This could end up as a UD for Wlad, keeping the fight at a distance, dominating behind the jab and catching Holyfield as he comes in, then leaning on him and tying him up.

However, I think Evander brings more desire and intensity than anyone Wlad has fought so far. He could keep up a relentless pace over the full fight - perhaps because of all the steroids he took - he has a rock solid chin and good skills. I think he is the aggressor, he refuses to be tied up inside and throws punches and head butts all night long. I see him making Wlad question his chin and get a bit panicky backing up, eventually stopping him in the late rounds when the ref rescues a helpless Wlad on the ropes

[Burr]

Holyfield

[armin]

As everyone else said this goes one of two ways wlad by ud or holly gets to wlad and grinds him out in the later stages of the figh. It'd be a pick em for me