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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    The gay movement thing is out of control. On the news here they mentioned a trial run for a gay marriage and I was like 'What on earth is this? Why?' They are actively trying to condition society even though there is literally no demand for such a change. It's like the EU immigration issue, people were not given a choice and it leads to turmoil and conflict. I predict the same thing will result from the obsession with gayness.

    I really don't understand it, to be honest. I'm not anti-gay because it's not really my business if guys like dudes putting penises in their butts, but for the love of God stop celebrating homosexuality like it's on the level of slaves being freed.
    Not sure how bad it is for the average Joe across the pond, but my Facebook feed is literally slammed with parents sending their 7 year old sons to school in dresses, and calling it "Parenting done right," because they let their kids wear whatever they want, so they could be free of oppression and able to choose their gender.
    WTF? All that shit is, is a complete and total lack of rules and family values.
    if you're gay, then good for you but stop trying to make everybody else gay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frozensolid-702 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    The gay movement thing is out of control. On the news here they mentioned a trial run for a gay marriage and I was like 'What on earth is this? Why?' They are actively trying to condition society even though there is literally no demand for such a change. It's like the EU immigration issue, people were not given a choice and it leads to turmoil and conflict. I predict the same thing will result from the obsession with gayness.

    I really don't understand it, to be honest. I'm not anti-gay because it's not really my business if guys like dudes putting penises in their butts, but for the love of God stop celebrating homosexuality like it's on the level of slaves being freed.
    Not sure how bad it is for the average Joe across the pond, but my Facebook feed is literally slammed with parents sending their 7 year old sons to school in dresses, and calling it "Parenting done right," because they let their kids wear whatever they want, so they could be free of oppression and able to choose their gender.
    WTF? All that shit is, is a complete and total lack of rules and family values.
    if you're gay, then good for you but stop trying to make everybody else gay.
    Very well said.

    I agree with you. I am comfortable around gay people, I admire several gay writers and artists, but I draw the line at turning the world gay. It is almost as though after subverting the traditional family with feminism, they have decided to finish the experiment with gay marriage etc. Society should be based on families with 2 parents and a government by and for the people supporting that solid foundation. Instead what we have are broken families, politics for globalists and homosexuality. The decadence seemingly has no limit and typically comes right before a society devours itself. Enough is enough. I'm cool with you being gay, but do not promote it. That is where a country like Russia has a lot more sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    The gay movement thing is out of control. On the news here they mentioned a trial run for a gay marriage and I was like 'What on earth is this? Why?' They are actively trying to condition society even though there is literally no demand for such a change. It's like the EU immigration issue, people were not given a choice and it leads to turmoil and conflict. I predict the same thing will result from the obsession with gayness.

    I really don't understand it, to be honest. I'm not anti-gay because it's not really my business if guys like dudes putting penises in their butts, but for the love of God stop celebrating homosexuality like it's on the level of slaves being freed.
    Not sure how bad it is for the average Joe across the pond, but my Facebook feed is literally slammed with parents sending their 7 year old sons to school in dresses, and calling it "Parenting done right," because they let their kids wear whatever they want, so they could be free of oppression and able to choose their gender.
    WTF? All that shit is, is a complete and total lack of rules and family values.
    if you're gay, then good for you but stop trying to make everybody else gay.
    after subverting the traditional family with feminism, they have decided to finish the experiment with gay marriage etc.
    Good sir, you have nailed it.
    There is a direct correlation in regards to the rise of this new wave of advanced (extremist) feminism, splattering the globe with homosexual propaganda, AND celebrating the fall of traditional, fundamentally based family values.

    I have very few questions left in the tank after much research (red-pilling, if you will) but the most important one remains....

    Why?

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    That is a good question. I think when you look at how systems of power operate there is often a duality. For instance, they claim to be fighting terrorism yet are actively funding and supporting terrorist groups. They twist language so that even dissent becomes terrorism, yet government creates terrorism! I think in a similar way, feminism came about in the guise of women's liberation, which of course, to some extent it was, but it also got women into work so that corporations could further reduce wages and children became wards of the state. With sexuality you see the guise of equal rights, but where is the push coming from exactly? Even back in the 1970's Labour politicians were promoting lowering the age of consent, basically legalising paedophilia. My own view, and people will disagree, is that it is all about subverting moral norms and conditioning people to accept and tolerate things such as the lowering of the age of consent later on. There are deviant people in positions of power that want their behaviour to be seen as less deviant now that it is becoming common knowledge what they have been up to. Once you accept gay marriage and gays adopting etc, then you know you are at the stage where almost anything is permitted. Then these people have no reason to fear the law or act in fear. It is good that people want to share their lives together, but I think the rush to get this all passed, is intentional and has ulterior motives. Society functioned better when government was more for people and family instead of corporations and broken families. That much is fairly obvious. We should be very careful as we know what works but do the opposite with the financial systems, morality, wars, destruction of the family etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    That is a good question. I think when you look at how systems of power operate there is often a duality. For instance, they claim to be fighting terrorism yet are actively funding and supporting terrorist groups. They twist language so that even dissent becomes terrorism, yet government creates terrorism! I think in a similar way, feminism came about in the guise of women's liberation, which of course, to some extent it was, but it also got women into work so that corporations could further reduce wages and children became wards of the state. With sexuality you see the guise of equal rights, but where is the push coming from exactly? Even back in the 1970's Labour politicians were promoting lowering the age of consent, basically legalising paedophilia. My own view, and people will disagree, is that it is all about subverting moral norms and conditioning people to accept and tolerate things such as the lowering of the age of consent later on. There are deviant people in positions of power that want their behaviour to be seen as less deviant now that it is becoming common knowledge what they have been up to. Once you accept gay marriage and gays adopting etc, then you know you are at the stage where almost anything is permitted. Then these people have no reason to fear the law or act in fear. It is good that people want to share their lives together, but I think the rush to get this all passed, is intentional and has ulterior motives. Society functioned better when government was more for people and family instead of corporations and broken families. That much is fairly obvious. We should be very careful as we know what works but do the opposite with the financial systems, morality, wars, destruction of the family etc.
    Gandalf consistently gets it right. Not only do they call it terrorism if you dissent, they call it POLITICAL INCORRECTNESS if you dont go along with the BLH far-left agenda on using words like "gay", "black", etc...

    THAT is the terrorism, people are scared to use certain words now, or they will be "shamed" on Twitter and Facebook for example.

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    I try not to watch any television as I believe it corrodes the mind, but there is definitely something strange happening out here. In the TV drama my wife likes to watch, the men do not look like men. They look like girls, they are wearing makeup, their clothes are silly. It is the same with all the young boy bands and girl groups too. The males do not look like men and the girls do not seem to want to wear any clothes. Isn't it strange how this is being foisted onto people? Kids listen to this music and teenagers watch this television. There is a kind of conditioning at work. It's creepy.

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    Fucking hell this gay invasion must be passing me by. And I live in Brighton - the gay capital of Europe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    I try not to watch any television as I believe it corrodes the mind, but there is definitely something strange happening out here. In the TV drama my wife likes to watch, the men do not look like men. They look like girls, they are wearing makeup, their clothes are silly. It is the same with all the young boy bands and girl groups too. The males do not look like men and the girls do not seem to want to wear any clothes. Isn't it strange how this is being foisted onto people? Kids listen to this music and teenagers watch this television. There is a kind of conditioning at work. It's creepy.
    What show is this? I would like to investigate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    That is a good question. I think when you look at how systems of power operate there is often a duality. For instance, they claim to be fighting terrorism yet are actively funding and supporting terrorist groups. They twist language so that even dissent becomes terrorism, yet government creates terrorism! I think in a similar way, feminism came about in the guise of women's liberation, which of course, to some extent it was, but it also got women into work so that corporations could further reduce wages and children became wards of the state. With sexuality you see the guise of equal rights, but where is the push coming from exactly? Even back in the 1970's Labour politicians were promoting lowering the age of consent, basically legalising paedophilia. My own view, and people will disagree, is that it is all about subverting moral norms and conditioning people to accept and tolerate things such as the lowering of the age of consent later on. There are deviant people in positions of power that want their behaviour to be seen as less deviant now that it is becoming common knowledge what they have been up to. Once you accept gay marriage and gays adopting etc, then you know you are at the stage where almost anything is permitted. Then these people have no reason to fear the law or act in fear. It is good that people want to share their lives together, but I think the rush to get this all passed, is intentional and has ulterior motives. Society functioned better when government was more for people and family instead of corporations and broken families. That much is fairly obvious. We should be very careful as we know what works but do the opposite with the financial systems, morality, wars, destruction of the family etc.



    "Once you accept gay marriage and gays adopting etc, then you know you are at the stage where almost anything is permitted"

    What a daft thing to say. You are making links that are just not there and jumping to conclusions in order to bolster what is an incredibly feeble argument. You link deviancy and homosexuality when in reality A gay person living in denial would be the deviant one. You do realise that child abusers are very often married straight man who trumpet the same family values bullshit that you try and ram down our throats every day ? The idea that feminism sneaked in under the guise of women's liberation and this allowed corporations to reduce wages and governments to make children wards of state is another load of bollocks. What are you suggesting ? That women should not have been afforded the right to work ? That men are superior to women? That Gay people have an agenda, where they want everyone else to be gay,and can somehow with propaganda make this happen ? What planet are you on mate?
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    It is the classic alter society by stealth tactic. Surely you have read about Harriet Harman and Pie. That kind of thinking exists and you know that there are people that have an agenda to subvert society through incremental manipulation of moral norms.

    Are families better off today with both parents working and less time for kids and less money? Feminism got work and alimony and attitude. Not much more. Family was dismantled and the welfare queen grew.

    I think most gay people are quite open about it. Like I say I am cool with gay marriage, but believe there is more to it with groups like pie etc. Are you saying that I am gay there? Im not thankfully. It all seems a little mucky for me. I believe in conservative values because I reject how I was raised, I believe kids need love and nurturing with a mother and father and a degree of security. Simple as that really. My motives are fairly simple. As you know I like to keep things simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    It is the classic alter society by stealth tactic. Surely you have read about Harriet Harman and Pie. That kind of thinking exists and you know that there are people that have an agenda to subvert society through incremental manipulation of moral norms.

    Are families better off today with both parents working and less time for kids and less money? Feminism got work and alimony and attitude. Not much more. Family was dismantled and the welfare queen grew.

    I think most gay people are quite open about it. Like I say I am cool with gay marriage, but believe there is more to it with groups like pie etc. Are you saying that I am gay there? Im not thankfully. It all seems a little mucky for me. I believe in conservative values because I reject how I was raised, I believe kids need love and nurturing with a mother and father and a degree of security. Simple as that really. My motives are fairly simple. As you know I like to keep things simple.

    So you are suggesting that Gay people have an agenda to subvert society and make Peadophilia acceptable ? and that the way they are doing this is by fighting for the right to get married ?
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