gay marriage in the US

[Beanz]

It is a sin to use contraception. Spreading that belief in an already over populated third world country is pretty dangerous. In the Catholic Church though you get sainted for it.

But as a Jew you do feel the act of sex should always be open to the creation of humanity. Do you not believe all life is precious. Is it negative to have a teaching that desires people respect sex for its intended use. No to perverse it. You should look into Pope Benedict's comments on contraception. He said in one talk the use of condoms for some, such as an aids infected prostitute may be the first step in this person becoming whole. I am paraphrasing quite a bit here. If we want to understand each other, don't just look at the teaching but at least seek the theology behind the teaching. You will probably still disagree but you may have a better understanding.

Even as an agnostic I recognise that Judaism itself, like Christianity is a distortion of what the Hebrew prophets sought to teach. I don't need to tell you that the dignity of women is a central part of Hebrew culture because the strong woman as Queen of the household is something that still exists in Jewish culture today. It is her right to enjoy sex as much as men and the idea of intended use just opens the doorway for the Christian concept of sin or falling short. So no, I Don't believe that sex should be reserved solely for procreation, or that myself, or the millions of others across the planet who agree, should then be assumed, to treat life as somehow being less precious.

If you really think Pope Benedict condoning "the use of condoms for some, such as an aids infected prostitute may be the first step in this person becoming whole" is somehow progressive or enlightened, then I can only marvel at how dark the world you live in is, under the man made rules and teachings of the Roman Catholic Church.

[walrus]

It is a sin to use contraception. Spreading that belief in an already over populated third world country is pretty dangerous. In the Catholic Church though you get sainted for it.

But as a Jew you do feel the act of sex should always be open to the creation of humanity. Do you not believe all life is precious. Is it negative to have a teaching that desires people respect sex for its intended use. No to perverse it. You should look into Pope Benedict's comments on contraception. He said in one talk the use of condoms for some, such as an aids infected prostitute may be the first step in this person becoming whole. I am paraphrasing quite a bit here. If we want to understand each other, don't just look at the teaching but at least seek the theology behind the teaching. You will probably still disagree but you may have a better understanding.

Even as an agnostic I recognise that Judaism itself, like Christianity is a distortion of what the Hebrew prophets sought to teach. I don't need to tell you that the dignity of women is a central part of Hebrew culture because the strong woman as Queen of the household is something that still exists in Jewish culture today. It is her right to enjoy sex as much as men and the idea of intended use just opens the doorway for the Christian concept of sin or falling short. So no, I Don't believe that sex should be reserved solely for procreation, or that myself, or the millions of others across the planet who agree, should then be assumed, to treat life as somehow being less precious.

If you really think Pope Benedict condoning "the use of condoms for some, such as an aids infected prostitute may be the first step in this person becoming whole" is somehow progressive or enlightened, then I can only marvel at how dark the world you live in is, under the man made rules and teachings of the Roman Catholic Church.

No, I was trying to let you know there is more to the issue than "don't use birth control" but I now see you are not interested in hearing anything other than what you think. You really think I live in a dark place huh, interesting.

[TitoFan]

I'm against it.
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