floyd vs berto.......meh

[Beanflicker]

You say Floyd should have fought more like JMM against Pac... but in JMM's 4 fights with Pac, he absorbed a ton of damage, was knocked on his ass at least half a dozen times, had his nose shattered, face cut up... and most importantly, he went 1/4 against Pac (even though most of us can agree he deserved at least one or two of those decisions).

In the first 3 fights, Manny landed an average 160.3 punches per fight on Marquez.

Against Mayweather, Manny landed half of that - 81 punches in total.

And most importantly, Floyd won a wide, uncontroversial decision over Pac.

So you really think Floyd should have fought more like JMM? Yeah, it would have been more entertaining for the fans, but why make anything harder than it needs to be?

And again, why do you have to be a KO artist to be considered great? Floyd has a 54% KO ratio... not great, but SRR (if you just look at his wins) only has a 62% KO ratio, and he's considered TBE. So your logic is full of holes and inconsistencies, as is usually the case with Floyd haters.

[Master]

Do not compare Floyd with SRR, Mayweather is a boring ass, safety first boring flash shit of a boxer.

[ruthless rocco]

Do not compare Floyd with SRR, Mayweather is a boring ass, safety first boring flash shit of a boxer.

....but he's most certainly TBE!!!

[Gandalf]

It is a piss take fight and should be ignored.

[ruthless rocco]

It is a piss take fight and should be ignored.

...this coming from a guy who'll make 16 posts about his ever changing day to day feelings about the new Modest Mouse, Manic Street Preachers or Muse albums!

[Gandalf]

It is a piss take fight and should be ignored.

...this coming from a guy who'll make 16 posts about his ever changing day to day feelings about the new Modest Mouse, Manic Street Preachers or Muse albums!

I would take the new Muse album at the retail price over a free Floyd Mayweather fight in a heartbeat. The new Modest Mouse is more on a par with the Mayweather/Berto fight. A bit rubbish.

[ruthless rocco]

It is a piss take fight and should be ignored.

...this coming from a guy who'll make 16 posts about his ever changing day to day feelings about the new Modest Mouse, Manic Street Preachers or Muse albums!

I would take the new Muse album at the retail price over a free Floyd Mayweather fight in a heartbeat. The new Modest Mouse is more on a par with the Mayweather/Berto fight. A bit rubbish.

You have no taste Miles.

[Beanflicker]

Do not compare Floyd with SRR, Mayweather is a boring ass, safety first boring flash shit of a boxer.

And Robinson was a brawler?

Robinson had a lot of great KOs that look great in a 4 minute highlight film, but if you go back and watch a lot of his full fights, he was largely a dancing safety-first guy.

I think a lot of people have an inflated view of guys like Ray Robinson and Ali, because they've only seen the big fights and the highlights. It's like listening to a band's Greatest Hits album. You have to go back and listen to the full discography to get a real grasp on the band. Both of those guys danced, ran, stalled, jabbed and CLINCHED their way to many a victory.

[Master]

Do not compare Floyd with SRR, Mayweather is a boring ass, safety first boring flash shit of a boxer.

And Robinson was a brawler?

Robinson had a lot of great KOs that look great in a 4 minute highlight film, but if you go back and watch a lot of his full fights, he was largely a dancing safety-first guy.

I think a lot of people have an inflated view of guys like Ray Robinson and Ali, because they've only seen the big fights and the highlights. It's like listening to a band's Greatest Hits album. You have to go back and listen to the full discography to get a real grasp on the band. Both of those guys danced, ran, stalled, jabbed and CLINCHED their way to many a victory.

Robinson could punch and entertain fans, Ali took challenges way past his prime, these guys will be remembered in boxing history Floyd will be quickly forgotten because of his forgettable performances.

[Beanflicker]

Robinson could punch and entertain fans, Ali took challenges way past his prime, these guys will be remembered in boxing history Floyd will be quickly forgotten because of his forgettable performances.

Yeah Robinson could punch... so could Floyd. Like I said, you're talking a 54% KO ratio for Floyd and a 62% for Robinson. Not a whole lot of difference in there.

Ali's great because he was champ and beat great fighters, not because he chose to fight past his prime and catch a case of Parkinsons.

[Master]

Robinson could punch and entertain fans, Ali took challenges way past his prime, these guys will be remembered in boxing history Floyd will be quickly forgotten because of his forgettable performances.

Yeah Robinson could punch... so could Floyd. Like I said, you're talking a 54% KO ratio for Floyd and a 62% for Robinson. Not a whole lot of difference in there.

Ali's great because he was champ and beat great fighters, not because he chose to fight past his prime and catch a case of Parkinsons.

Big difference in KO percentage, do not talk nonsence now to support Floyd.

Yes Ali went on too long, Floyd should retire as well.

[Beanflicker]

Big difference in KO percentage, do not talk nonsence now to support Floyd.

Yes Ali went on too long, Floyd should retire as well.

8%, big deal.

Floyd should retire, but he's not taking beatings like Ali and SRR were at this age. He's still winning, making crazy money and making easy work out of guys people said he was ducking haha.

Haters gonna hate hate hate hate hate haha

[C.J.Rock]

Robinson could punch and entertain fans, Ali took challenges way past his prime, these guys will be remembered in boxing history Floyd will be quickly forgotten because of his forgettable performances.

Yeah Robinson could punch... so could Floyd. Like I said, you're talking a 54% KO ratio for Floyd and a 62% for Robinson. Not a whole lot of difference in there.

Ali's great because he was champ and beat great fighters, not because he chose to fight past his prime and catch a case of Parkinsons.

You don't CATCH Parkinsons syndrome Ali was showing signs of the disease after the third Frazier fight. That's why Ferdi Pacheco left him he could see it happening. There is no way in hell Ali was fit to fight Holmes & as for Berbick that was disgraceful.
Floyd hasn't retired yet . Mores the pity !!! When he does he'll soon run out of $$$ & be back fighting again & be in car parks signing pics & telling kids " I I used to be TBE ""

[Beanflicker]

You don't CATCH Parkinsons syndrome Ali was showing signs of the disease after the third Frazier fight. That's why Ferdi Pacheco left him he could see it happening. There is no way in hell Ali was fit to fight Holmes & as for Berbick that was disgraceful.
Floyd hasn't retired yet . Mores the pity !!! When he does he'll soon run out of $$$ & be back fighting again & be in car parks signing pics & telling kids " I I used to be TBE ""

Cool so I'm supposed to respect the fact that he was too stupid to get out of the game at the right time?

Floyd's at the age where Ali was a shell of himself and getting beaten to death by Holmes and Berbick.

Floyd is going to leave the game at or near the top.

[J_Undisputed]

You say Floyd should have fought more like JMM against Pac... but in JMM's 4 fights with Pac, he absorbed a ton of damage, was knocked on his ass at least half a dozen times, had his nose shattered, face cut up... and most importantly, he went 1/4 against Pac (even though most of us can agree he deserved at least one or two of those decisions).

In the first 3 fights, Manny landed an average 160.3 punches per fight on Marquez.

Against Mayweather, Manny landed half of that - 81 punches in total.

And most importantly, Floyd won a wide, uncontroversial decision over Pac.

So you really think Floyd should have fought more like JMM? Yeah, it would have been more entertaining for the fans, but why make anything harder than it needs to be?

And again, why do you have to be a KO artist to be considered great? Floyd has a 54% KO ratio... not great, but SRR (if you just look at his wins) only has a 62% KO ratio, and he's considered TBE. So your logic is full of holes and inconsistencies, as is usually the case with Floyd haters.

First, I never said he had to fight Marquez's fight. Second, I never said he needed to be a ko artist to be great. What I said was with his speed,ring generalship, experience, intelligence and all the other things that he claims makes him "the best ever" , he should have been able to take advantage of at least some of those opportunities and not paid the price. He could have, tied up, circled out or used his footwork to slip out after he did. Instead he chose to do all of that without even trying because he already had your money and then stood there cheering for himself in the closing seconds while he played keep away. Again, he's entitled to do that if the refs,the broadcasters, the sanctioning bodies and some of the fans believe it's a superb showcase of his talents and believe it's work 32 million. Other fans are entitled to their opinion too that it's a farce for someone who claims to be the best ever in a combatitive support to rarely choose to be combatitive... And they refuse too support or credit him for it.