floyd vs berto.......meh

[Manju]

Floyd is not a one trick pony, he has an arsenal above and beyond that of everyone he fights according to most fighters... if 5% is all he needs to beat some of these guys, then he's happy and most wont demand more of him. I do. If you use %5 and get a close decision or what ifs, then you deserve whatever flack comes your way.

Do you really believe Floyd is beating guys like Manny Pacquaio using 5% of his potential? I mean come on dude.

Boxing is about hitting and not getting hit, and most importantly it's about winning fights. People have this expectation that Floyd should come out and fight like Arturo Gatti, even though he has the ability to beat a guy and take very little damage.

Nobody gives Willie Pep shit and says he should have been more aggressive and went for the KO more, and nobody accuses him of not putting in a good effort despite very rarely scoring a stoppage. Nobody shits on Ali (now that Bill Paxtom is gone, anyway) that he never KO'd so and so and just cruised to a victory.

It's just haters being haters. When haters want to hate on a guy, they bring up his losses and his pitfalls and say "ha ha". Floyd haters can't do that because he's never lost and 99% of his career has been in-ring brilliance. So they have to resort to saying things like "oh he fights like a coward" (while praising guys like Willie Pep) and "oh he's egotistical, he beats up women, he's greedy, ect" (all of which Sugar Ray Robinson and many other great champions were and did). All I'm saying is be consistent. If Floyd stinks because he loves money, then everyone stinks too. If you want to say he's garbage because he beat up his girlfriend or doesn't get a lot of KO's, then you're also saying a lot of great champions of the past are garbage as well.

5% of course is an exaggeration; How about 45? 65% 70% or does even 80% make anyone feel better about the money they spend to Listen to/ watch this...
https://youtu.be/x8LuQItZaDs

and this...
https://youtu.be/v0LSsphSesY

and this...


and with all his speed, hard work, dedication, ring generalship accuracy and defense in the pocket... not be able to pick up counter punching opportunities that a much slower marquez feasted on for 4 fights. Or the overhand right that marquez laid the blueprint for... so he could do this....



https://youtu.be/jC9bTx0NcGE

He wasn't more capable than that? That was his 100% hard work, dedication, accuracy, speed, pedigree.. from a a man born in the boxing gym? Noone says he has to engage meet every fighter in the middle of the ring, or even spend the whole fight sacrificing him his pretty boy mug for counter punching opportunities. But after 4 round or even 6, you don't think he could have landed some combinations, some counter punching opportunities or went on the offensive for more than 10 seconds collectively, with the arsenal at his disposal? (and his 1000 dollar specially prepared meals) Especially after he catches pac coming in and freezes him and stands there staring at him? And now, he's going to wipe his butt with Berto, who's been beat by guerrero, ortiz, and pounded by soto karass... I could be alone in my perspective, but he's not doing enough for what hes capable of to be called the best ever.

So I watched the PBF v Maidana II vid that you link to. Nice HD. Entertaining. But around 52 seconds in PBF appears to be knocked down. I didn't remember that so I went looking for it in the actual fight. It's not there.

Someone editing together two different sequences from two different rounds: a hard right followed by PBF going to the canvas. The first sequence took place at the end of a round. The fall to the canvas however is from another round, and is preceded by a slip, not a hard right as the video would want us to believe.

There was no knockdown. I would not rely on that video to tell me what happened in that fight.