Saddo poll - Where are you on Floyd

[IamInuit]

No I don't.
I think he was TBE puncher.

I heard he had loaded wraps though

No loaded wraps, no power. Just watch the Hopkins fight. It's as if Tito knew he didn't have power in his punches. Kinda like how Pacquiao just seemed to know that he couldn't beat Floyd.

The wraps were not loaded. Its a crock and why involve Tito? Since you did he would give Floyd one hell of a go at 147. This wrap garbage needs to be chucked cause its one of those urban legends that continues long after it was exposed as a crock. Roach used to wrap Oscars hands using twisted packing tape and nobody cried about that. Tito's dad changed direction with some gauze and people act like he pulled a Panama Lewis.

I stick up for Floyd as much as anyone and appreciate the mans pugilistic prowess but I can honestly criticize him also or question his history etc etc w/o feeling torn about it.

[Beanflicker]

I never really knew the truth. I heard people say they were loaded, some people said they weren't. I myself don't know what constitutes and illegal hand wrap in boxing to be honest, other than you're not allowed to add cement to your wrap like Margacheato did.

It seems a bit ridiculous to think that a bit of extra tape or whatever the fuck it is, is going to suddenly turn a guy into a murderous puncher. Tito had great technique on that left hook.

[ruthless rocco]

No I don't.
I think he was TBE puncher.

I heard he had loaded wraps though

No loaded wraps, no power. Just watch the Hopkins fight. It's as if Tito knew he didn't have power in his punches. Kinda like how Pacquiao just seemed to know that he couldn't beat Floyd.

The wraps were not loaded. Its a crock and why involve Tito? Since you did he would give Floyd one hell of a go at 147. This wrap garbage needs to be chucked cause its one of those urban legends that continues long after it was exposed as a crock. Roach used to wrap Oscars hands using twisted packing tape and nobody cried about that. Tito's dad changed direction with some gauze and people act like he pulled a Panama Lewis.

I stick up for Floyd as much as anyone and appreciate the mans pugilistic prowess but I can honestly criticize him also or question his history etc etc w/o feeling torn about it.

The hands had to be re-wrapped for a reason...

In a post fight interview Papa Trinidad said that his special hand wrapping style gave Tito extra power--extra power that was missing when they had to re-wrap his hands.

[Master]

Tito was fighting a great fighter at middleweight and Hopkins was probably at his peak which is any he made Tito look average, no shame there.

I believe Tito, ike and Sweat Pea would have beaten Floyd in a close fight. They were legitamte welterweight champions.

[Beanflicker]

I believe Tito, ike and Sweat Pea would have beaten Floyd in a close fight. They were legitamte welterweight champions.

I won't argue Ike and Sweat Pea, but how does Tito beat Floyd? Serious question. What do you see in Tito that you think would give him an advantage over Floyd. I mean I get he's a bigger guy, and he hits hard. Floyd's fought a lot of guys who were bigger and hit harder.

What would Tito's game plan be?

[Beanflicker]

I like Sweatpea vs Floyd though. That's a toss up for sure.

[Master]

I believe Tito, ike and Sweat Pea would have beaten Floyd in a close fight. They were legitamte welterweight champions.

I won't argue Ike and Sweat Pea, but how does Tito beat Floyd? Serious question. What do you see in Tito that you think would give him an advantage over Floyd. I mean I get he's a bigger guy, and he hits hard. Floyd's fought a lot of guys who were bigger and hit harder.

What would Tito's game plan be?

Tito was not only naturally bigger and punched harder he also was taller and had reach advantage. Floyd would have to fight the perfect fight and not get hit clean once, which he is more than capable of doing but does not punch sufficiently hard to deter Tito. I say Tito wins decision but would not be surprised if it was a stoppage.

[Beanflicker]

Tito was not only naturally bigger and punched harder he also was taller and had reach advantage. Floyd would have to fight the perfect fight and not get hit clean once, which he is more than capable of doing but does not punch sufficiently hard to deter Tito. I say Tito wins decision but would not be surprised if it was a stoppage.

I get that he's taller, bigger and punches harder, but how is he going to land those shots? Floyd's not Paulie in there, you can't just walk through his shots.

I'm not even saying you're wrong, I just want someone to explain it to me. Given all the trouble Tito has had with slick boxers who move well, I have no idea how Tito wins that fight save for landing a big bomb. Tito's big bomb was the left hook, Floyd doesn't get hit with left hooks. Tito's right was good but not great. Floyd has shown the ability to get hit and survive. Not sure how Tito wins this, seems like wishful thinking if anything.

[Mark TKO]

Greatest defensive fighter , ring craftsman and technician of all time

Worst attacking champion of all time

What would Floyd do if an opponent just came out when the bell rang and leaned back on the ropes and waited ?

[ruthless rocco]

Tito was not only naturally bigger and punched harder he also was taller and had reach advantage. Floyd would have to fight the perfect fight and not get hit clean once, which he is more than capable of doing but does not punch sufficiently hard to deter Tito. I say Tito wins decision but would not be surprised if it was a stoppage.

I get that he's taller, bigger and punches harder, but how is he going to land those shots? Floyd's not Paulie in there, you can't just walk through his shots.

I'm not even saying you're wrong, I just want someone to explain it to me. Given all the trouble Tito has had with slick boxers who move well, I have no idea how Tito wins that fight save for landing a big bomb. Tito's big bomb was the left hook, Floyd doesn't get hit with left hooks. Tito's right was good but not great. Floyd has shown the ability to get hit and survive. Not sure how Tito wins this, seems like wishful thinking if anything.

I'd argue that while Tito had a 1/2 inch reach advantage, Floyd's stance would not only negate it but he may actually have the reach advantage over Tito.

[TitoFan]

No I don't.
I think he was TBE puncher.

I heard he had loaded wraps though

No loaded wraps, no power. Just watch the Hopkins fight. It's as if Tito knew he didn't have power in his punches. Kinda like how Pacquiao just seemed to know that he couldn't beat Floyd.

The wraps were not loaded. Its a crock and why involve Tito? Since you did he would give Floyd one hell of a go at 147. This wrap garbage needs to be chucked cause its one of those urban legends that continues long after it was exposed as a crock. Roach used to wrap Oscars hands using twisted packing tape and nobody cried about that. Tito's dad changed direction with some gauze and people act like he pulled a Panama Lewis.

I stick up for Floyd as much as anyone and appreciate the mans pugilistic prowess but I can honestly criticize him also or question his history etc etc w/o feeling torn about it.

The hands had to be re-wrapped for a reason...

In a post fight interview Papa Trinidad said that his special hand wrapping style gave Tito extra power--extra power that was missing when they had to re-wrap his hands.

If Trinidad Sr. factually said that, I'd like to read it. He only speaks Spanish, so please provide the exact quote..... I'll be able to read it.

Not putting your words into question (yes I am)..... but then again you also claim that Floyd is a great humanitarian and cares more about the health and well-being of fellow athletes than about money and fame.

[ruthless rocco]

If Trinidad Sr. factually said that, I'd like to read it. He only speaks Spanish, so please provide the exact quote..... I'll be able to read it.

Not putting your words into question (yes I am)..... but then again you also claim that Floyd is a great humanitarian and cares more about the health and well-being of fellow athletes than about money and fame.

You claim to be able to read but I'm skeptical of that.
You seem to have had trouble reading my posts. I've never called Floyd a humanitarian and you've misquoted me as saying Floyd "cares more about the health and well-being of fellow athletes than about money and fame". What I said was that Floyd cares about more than just money, he also cares about the health and well being of his fellow fighters.

[TitoFan]

If Trinidad Sr. factually said that, I'd like to read it. He only speaks Spanish, so please provide the exact quote..... I'll be able to read it.

Not putting your words into question (yes I am)..... but then again you also claim that Floyd is a great humanitarian and cares more about the health and well-being of fellow athletes than about money and fame.

You claim to be able to read but I'm skeptical of that.
You seem to have had trouble reading my posts. I've never called Floyd a humanitarian and you've misquoted me as saying Floyd "cares more about the health and well-being of fellow athletes than about money and fame". What I said was that Floyd cares about more than just money, he also cares about the health and well being of his fellow fighters.

You moonwalk better than Michael Jackson ever did.

Seriously though....... backtracking is not a becoming characteristic.
In some cultures it's even thought of as unmanly.

[ruthless rocco]

No I don't.
I think he was TBE puncher.

I heard he had loaded wraps though

No loaded wraps, no power. Just watch the Hopkins fight. It's as if Tito knew he didn't have power in his punches. Kinda like how Pacquiao just seemed to know that he couldn't beat Floyd.

The wraps were not loaded. Its a crock and why involve Tito? Since you did he would give Floyd one hell of a go at 147. This wrap garbage needs to be chucked cause its one of those urban legends that continues long after it was exposed as a crock. Roach used to wrap Oscars hands using twisted packing tape and nobody cried about that. Tito's dad changed direction with some gauze and people act like he pulled a Panama Lewis.

I stick up for Floyd as much as anyone and appreciate the mans pugilistic prowess but I can honestly criticize him also or question his history etc etc w/o feeling torn about it.

The hands had to be re-wrapped for a reason...

In a post fight interview Papa Trinidad said that his special hand wrapping style gave Tito extra power--extra power that was missing when they had to re-wrap his hands.

If Trinidad Sr. factually said that, I'd like to read it. He only speaks Spanish, so please provide the exact quote..... I'll be able to read it.

Not putting your words into question (yes I am)..... but then again you also claim that Floyd is a great humanitarian and cares more about the health and well-being of fellow athletes than about money and fame.

"Well, it got to us a little because, since I couldn’t place the tape that I usually place on Tito’s hand... I had to add some more gauze to make a type of pillow... This tends to take away some of the power in the punch." Papa Trinidad

[TitoFan]

No I don't.
I think he was TBE puncher.

I heard he had loaded wraps though

No loaded wraps, no power. Just watch the Hopkins fight. It's as if Tito knew he didn't have power in his punches. Kinda like how Pacquiao just seemed to know that he couldn't beat Floyd.

The wraps were not loaded. Its a crock and why involve Tito? Since you did he would give Floyd one hell of a go at 147. This wrap garbage needs to be chucked cause its one of those urban legends that continues long after it was exposed as a crock. Roach used to wrap Oscars hands using twisted packing tape and nobody cried about that. Tito's dad changed direction with some gauze and people act like he pulled a Panama Lewis.

I stick up for Floyd as much as anyone and appreciate the mans pugilistic prowess but I can honestly criticize him also or question his history etc etc w/o feeling torn about it.

The hands had to be re-wrapped for a reason...

In a post fight interview Papa Trinidad said that his special hand wrapping style gave Tito extra power--extra power that was missing when they had to re-wrap his hands.

If Trinidad Sr. factually said that, I'd like to read it. He only speaks Spanish, so please provide the exact quote..... I'll be able to read it.

Not putting your words into question (yes I am)..... but then again you also claim that Floyd is a great humanitarian and cares more about the health and well-being of fellow athletes than about money and fame.

"Well, it got to us a little because, since I couldn’t place the tape that I usually place on Tito’s hand... I had to add some more gauze to make a type of pillow... This tends to take away some of the power in the punch." Papa Trinidad

Ok, so here's the deal ok?

Words like "well", "it", "got", "to", etc...... you see them are English words.
Trinidad Sr. doesn't speak English, so therefore, he couldn't have said those words.

Also, I asked for the quote in Spanish.
You obviously are unable to produce such a simple request.

What are we going to do with your little, Floyd-nuthugging ass?