iran

[walrus]

Ok, I can see the discussion has evolved

[Kirkland Laing]

Ok, I can see the discussion has evolved

OK, yeah, childish.

So let's look at this instead.

[i]A majority of Americans support recommitting U.S. troops to Iraq to fight the Islamic terrorist group known as Islamic State or ISIS, although many want the deployment for just for a short period, a new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll has found.

Asked about the prospect of U.S. troops going back into Iraq, 60% favored sending troops to fight ISIS. That total included 28% who wanted troops in for “as long as it takes to get the job done” while 32% said they should be deployed for a short period to allow the Iraqi Army to take over.
Another 38%, however, said they did not favor sending any troops at all. That anti-interventionist sentiment was overwhelmingly Democratic: 52% of Democrats and only 19% of Republicans opposed sending any troops into Iraq.
By contrast, 80% of Republicans favored long- or short-term deployment, compared with 47% of Democrats.
In keeping with that partisan split, the poll found that support for using combat troops to fight ISIS is a political plus for Republicans seeking their party’s presidential nomination and a minus for Democrats. Asked how supporting the troop deployment against ISIS would affect their feelings about a candidate, 80% of GOP primary voters said they would be more favorable; Among Democratic primary voters, that position would make 35% feel more favorable and 47% feel less favorable.




Support for Sending Troops to Fight ISIS Splits by Party — WSJ/NBC Poll - Washington Wire - WSJ




A few thousand beardy nutters chopping the heads of slightly less nutty nutters halfway round the world from America is enough to scare Americans so badly that they're prepared to send troops into Iraq to keep them safe five minutes after the troops they originally sent to Iraq to keep them safe have just come back, having failed to keep them safe but having created the situation that led to the creation of ISIS.


There is some kind of panic switch in their heads that makes them forget the events of the last few years and just send the troops right back in to do a job that they clearly cannot possibly do. Anybody that says yes in one of these surveys they should give directions to the nearest army recruitment centre to them and tell them to sign up and go and fight ISIS themselves. Seriously, spending trillions of dollars to send thousand sof guys to their deaths, tens of thousands with bits blown off them and all so they can referee wars that have been going on since the seventh century.


I'm not saying this is limited to America. Britain got bullshitted that Saddam had WMDs that could be fired at Britain within 45 minutes of Saddam decising to do so and it moved the public opinion needle a fair bit. But you need to accept that you're fed a lot of bullshit as Americans and a lot of it is designed to scare you for political purposes. Witness the GOP contenders claiming one of the biggest threats to America is radical Islam and we need to get tougher with ISIS. It's all just bullshit mate.