Is a punk just an angry hippy?

[Beanz]

Depends on whether or not the punk likes authority and control....if so then yes. The members of Crass aren't hippieish at all

Well....um....

Penny and the guys are all Hippies who started Crass as an extension of their work as artists in the fluxist movement and are still based in a commune. A middle class chap, just like Strummer (who went to private school) they never the less understood the problems with implementing anarchy. Punk is really more about an ethos as is being a hippy or crusty, Raver etc. Political movements and musical/artistic movements have always been very closely intertwined and people change, but labels are usually dreamt up by people outside the movements and after the events.

[El Kabong]

Depends on whether or not the punk likes authority and control....if so then yes. The members of Crass aren't hippieish at all

Well....um....

Penny and the guys are all Hippies who started Crass as an extension of their work as artists in the fluxist movement and are still based in a commune. A middle class chap, just like Strummer (who went to private school) they never the less understood the problems with implementing anarchy. Punk is really more about an ethos as is being a hippy or crusty, Raver etc. Political movements and musical/artistic movements have always been very closely intertwined and people change, but labels are usually dreamt up by people outside the movements and after the events.

When I think hippy I'm thinking of someone quite at odds with "There is no authority but yourself" ...they were anarchists and in my mind, from my experiences that goes against the whole collectivist ideals of all the flower haired hippies....but perhaps that's my misunderstanding as all I have ever experienced with hippies and with punks is that it's like oil and water mixing.

The song "White Punks on Hope" to me is very ANTI-hippy, very ANTI-SJW, very ANTI-left, and even nihilistic at points....absolutely nothing a hippy would like about that song.

HOWEVER, as artists it's quite possible songs like that were multifaceted and open to various interpretations and perhaps I've gotten it all wrong which is quite possible.