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    Quote Originally Posted by SRR View Post
    Perhaps if anyone finds any other videos showing the 'old school' techniques of some of the other fighters mentioned (or still others) they could post them in here and we could amass a small collection of old school techniques on film?
    Here you go

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    Kovalev and Golovkin both use an old-school technique known as "shifting".

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    Kovalev and Golovkin both use an old-school technique known as "shifting".
    See above "Tao of Duran" @ 3:45
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SRR View Post
    Perhaps if anyone finds any other videos showing the 'old school' techniques of some of the other fighters mentioned (or still others) they could post them in here and we could amass a small collection of old school techniques on film?
    Here you go
    Thanks for posting these Jimanuel, I have only had time to look at the first video so far but will hopefully have time to watch the rest tomorrow It's fascinating to see these techniques employed in a boxing ring, because it's so much harder to get a feel for your opponent with a big pair of gloves on, they are naturally disconnecting, but clearly Roberto had no problems! :-D

    Quote Originally Posted by VG_Addict View Post
    Kovalev and Golovkin both use an old-school technique known as "shifting".
    This is one of the techniques I was thinking of with regards to footwork. I have trained with boxers before who cannot understand why anyone would change their stance mid fight, although more accurately you would say mid-sequence. The common response is that you should simply stick to developing your techniques out of the stance which is most natural to you, as though switching stances is some sort of pugilistic faux pas, however this is another 'technique' which is merely thought of as common sense in many martial arts. The reality is that there are hundreds, perhaps thousands of openings in any given fight which occur outside the parameters of your natural stance, and shifting from one stance to another fluidly allows one to take advantage of these 'extra' openings that most fighters never even try to access. It also disrupts the opponent's rhythm, particularly when the changes are sporadic and not pre-meditated, e.g. the way that Fury changed to southpaw against Chisora. Of course it may still have some strategic value if you know that a particular opponent may not know how to fight against a southpaw, but a spontaneous rhythm is still superior to an alternative rhythm, since the former is impossible to interpret and therefore forces one to either concede to reactivity or attempt to impose one's own rhythm (which in its own way is still reactive, if you're facing a true counter-fighter and have thus been led down a particular, pre-determined path). The latter might be a difficult puzzle, or even one that one has rightly guessed one's opponent cannot decipher, but it nevertheless engenders the opportunity for its solution. A spontaneous rhythm is like a constantly shifting combination lock: before you can figure out the combination, it shifts and transforms, and so one is always chasing shadows and punching at thin air. Indeed, I believe the analysis of Duran's fight against Palomino that Jimanuel shared showed, among other things, how subtle variations in, and layering of, certain offensive tactics effectively disrupts an opponent's rhythm and causes them to be misdirected in their attempted anticipation of their opponent's rhythm.

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