Floyd against southpaws.

[Ron Swanson]

Judah knocked Floyd down and Corley wobbled Floyd.

So 15 seconds of struggles in 7 fights constitutes struggling in your mind. Appreciate the clarification

[Master]

Judah knocked Floyd down and Corley wobbled Floyd.

So 15 seconds of struggles in 7 fights constitutes struggling in your mind. Appreciate the clarification

How many times have you seen Floyd struggle in his whole career?

15 seconds is a long time because he was seriously hurt in those seconds. Other than Shane, that is the only time he was wobbled and out of control.

[Ron Swanson]

Judah knocked Floyd down and Corley wobbled Floyd.

So 15 seconds of struggles in 7 fights constitutes struggling in your mind. Appreciate the clarification

How many times have you seen Floyd struggle in his whole career?

15 seconds is a long time because he was seriously hurt in those seconds. Other than Shane, that is the only time he was wobbled and out of control.

I'd say he had many minutes of struggles against Augustus. More struggles against Shane, more against Cotto, more against Maidana, more against Castillo.

The Judah fight he did touch his glove down but it didn't seem like he was hurt but rather caught off guard/off balance with a good shot.

But, like I said I appreciate the clarification. Struggles is vague, it's for the eye of the beholder. Some would say he struggled against Delahoya. My perspective is that Delahoya took rounds with ineffective aggression. I can't remember Delahoya landing one significant punch in the fight. The closest thing to a significant punch I would consider the left hook in the last seconds of the 12th where Floyd decided to exchange for amusement. If you don't land any significant punches that doesn't seem like struggles to me, but he was stealing rounds so someone else could call it struggles. To each their own.

For me to consider a fighter struggling I have to begin questioning if they will win or lose. Maidana I, Castillo I and the 2nd round versus Mosley are the occasions where I questioned if Floyd would win or not.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Judah knocked Floyd down and Corley wobbled Floyd.

So 15 seconds of struggles in 7 fights constitutes struggling in your mind. Appreciate the clarification

How many times have you seen Floyd struggle in his whole career?

15 seconds is a long time because he was seriously hurt in those seconds. Other than Shane, that is the only time he was wobbled and out of control.

I'd say he had many minutes of struggles against Augustus. More struggles against Shane, more against Cotto, more against Maidana, more against Castillo.

The Judah fight he did touch his glove down but it didn't seem like he was hurt but rather caught off guard/off balance with a good shot.

But, like I said I appreciate the clarification. Struggles is vague, it's for the eye of the beholder. Some would say he struggled against Delahoya. My perspective is that Delahoya took rounds with ineffective aggression. I can't remember Delahoya landing one significant punch in the fight. The closest thing to a significant punch I would consider the left hook in the last seconds of the 12th where Floyd decided to exchange for amusement. If you don't land any significant punches that doesn't seem like struggles to me, but he was stealing rounds so someone else could call it struggles. To each their own.

For me to consider a fighter struggling I have to begin questioning if they will win or lose. Maidana I, Castillo I and the 2nd round versus Mosley are the occasions where I questioned if Floyd would win or not.

From memory, I recall Mayweather choosing to 'dog it out' a bit with Corely. I got the impression that this was due to Corley's left hand trajectory negating his defences a bit. I'm sure he was badly hurt in that fight a couple of times. (I've only seen the fight in it's entirety once and that was when I was stoned and 'speed-watching' the fight on YouTube, just before the Mosley fight - that was a wired night for me ). I put that down to relative inexperience and have since noted that he has become more astute with southpaws than before.

Just check this out - which is, in my mind, an extension/ continuation/ development of what when on in the Corley & Mitchell fights.



How Mayweather adjusts to the left hand of Judah is incredible but at the same time, I thought bending at the waist against someone like Pacquiao would leave him well and truly exposed but then I figured Manny would try to sell feints a lot more than he did.

[VG_Addict]

I think Pacquiao has always been a bit one-dimensional.

And on the topic of Williams, he had a tendency to lunge. Floyd would exploit that.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

I think Pacquiao has always been a bit one-dimensional.

I'm 50/50 on that theory.
True, he used to be a one-handed fighter - that's no longer the case.
Also true he doesn't have a reverse gear

[Ron Swanson]

Judah knocked Floyd down and Corley wobbled Floyd.

So 15 seconds of struggles in 7 fights constitutes struggling in your mind. Appreciate the clarification

How many times have you seen Floyd struggle in his whole career?

15 seconds is a long time because he was seriously hurt in those seconds. Other than Shane, that is the only time he was wobbled and out of control.

I'd say he had many minutes of struggles against Augustus. More struggles against Shane, more against Cotto, more against Maidana, more against Castillo.

The Judah fight he did touch his glove down but it didn't seem like he was hurt but rather caught off guard/off balance with a good shot.

But, like I said I appreciate the clarification. Struggles is vague, it's for the eye of the beholder. Some would say he struggled against Delahoya. My perspective is that Delahoya took rounds with ineffective aggression. I can't remember Delahoya landing one significant punch in the fight. The closest thing to a significant punch I would consider the left hook in the last seconds of the 12th where Floyd decided to exchange for amusement. If you don't land any significant punches that doesn't seem like struggles to me, but he was stealing rounds so someone else could call it struggles. To each their own.

For me to consider a fighter struggling I have to begin questioning if they will win or lose. Maidana I, Castillo I and the 2nd round versus Mosley are the occasions where I questioned if Floyd would win or not.

From memory, I recall Mayweather choosing to 'dog it out' a bit with Corely. I got the impression that this was due to Corley's left hand trajectory negating his defences a bit. I'm sure he was badly hurt in that fight a couple of times. (I've only seen the fight in it's entirety once and that was when I was stoned and 'speed-watching' the fight on YouTube, just before the Mosley fight - that was a wired night for me ). I put that down to relative inexperience and have since noted that he has become more astute with southpaws than before.

Just check this out - which is, in my mind, an extension/ continuation/ development of what when on in the Corley & Mitchell fights.



How Mayweather adjusts to the left hand of Judah is incredible but at the same time, I thought bending at the waist against someone like Pacquiao would leave him well and truly exposed but then I figured Manny would try to sell feints a lot more than he did.

I watched the Corley fight again a couple months back, it's a fun fight. I think any troubles he had came from being overly aggressive. You can hear between rounds Roger tells him to go get Corley then after beating on Corley but taking a few shots Roger says to back off for a few rounds and then we will try again to take him out. And Floyd does just as instructed.

Good video. I like how he shows that Floyd doesn't have a problem with the straight left. The notion he simply can't deal with a straight left because of the shoulder roll is ludicrous and unfounded. If anything he has more trouble with the right hook from the southpaw stance. I'm 95% sure that is what Corley buzzed him with(I will go watch it again to be sure) and what Zab made him go down with.

I've heard many trainers say that the idea Floyd struggles with southpaws is a myth. I used to believe the myth until I went back and watched fights over after hearing yet another trainer say it simply wasn't true.

[frozensolid-702]

Judah knocked Floyd down and Corley wobbled Floyd.

So 15 seconds of struggles in 7 fights constitutes struggling in your mind. Appreciate the clarification

How many times have you seen Floyd struggle in his whole career?

15 seconds is a long time because he was seriously hurt in those seconds. Other than Shane, that is the only time he was wobbled and out of control.

I'd say he had many minutes of struggles against Augustus. More struggles against Shane, more against Cotto, more against Maidana, more against Castillo.

The Judah fight he did touch his glove down but it didn't seem like he was hurt but rather caught off guard/off balance with a good shot.

But, like I said I appreciate the clarification. Struggles is vague, it's for the eye of the beholder. Some would say he struggled against Delahoya. My perspective is that Delahoya took rounds with ineffective aggression. I can't remember Delahoya landing one significant punch in the fight. The closest thing to a significant punch I would consider the left hook in the last seconds of the 12th where Floyd decided to exchange for amusement. If you don't land any significant punches that doesn't seem like struggles to me, but he was stealing rounds so someone else could call it struggles. To each their own.

For me to consider a fighter struggling I have to begin questioning if they will win or lose. Maidana I, Castillo I and the 2nd round versus Mosley are the occasions where I questioned if Floyd would win or not.

Maybe it's just me, but crazy as it sounds, I thought Hatton was a big problem for Floyd in the early rounds while watching it live. Obviously Floyd adjusted (as he always does) and got a wicked KO, but Hatton seemed pretty effective early on.