MARGARITO divorced his HS sweetheart and making a comeback !!!!

[TitoFan]

Sticking inserts with any kind of hardening substance involved into hand wraps is different then changing gauze direction and adding a couple of strips of tape.

This is all I need to know about the subject thank you.

If the forum had been around when Resto was indicted, I would've been the first in line with the pitchforks and the lighted torches. But when.... let's say, less-than-fully-enlightened people try and draw a parallel between the Trinidad issue and the Margarito issue.... I stop listening and chalk it up to ignorance. Same can be said of De La Hoya, who had his own handwrap controversies... and probably just about any other fighter whose tape-wrapping methods have been called into question at one point or another.

Margarito was caught trying to cheat. What is so goddam hard to understand about that??

My guy gets caught in a blatant lie or cheat, I'll be the first to f*cking admit it. That's how I am and that's how I've always been. But I won't lay down for ignorant critiques from blind, know-nothing fans.

[Fenster]

Sticking inserts with any kind of hardening substance involved into hand wraps is different then changing gauze direction and adding a couple of strips of tape.

This is all I need to know about the subject thank you.

If the forum had been around when Resto was indicted, I would've been the first in line with the pitchforks and the lighted torches. But when.... let's say, less-than-fully-enlightened people try and draw a parallel between the Trinidad issue and the Margarito issue.... I stop listening and chalk it up to ignorance. Same can be said of De La Hoya, who had his own handwrap controversies... and probably just about any other fighter whose tape-wrapping methods have been called into question at one point or another.

Margarito was caught trying to cheat. What is so goddam hard to understand about that??

My guy gets caught in a blatant lie or cheat, I'll be the first to f*cking admit it. That's how I am and that's how I've always been. But I won't lay down for ignorant critiques from blind, know-nothing fans.

"Less-than-fully-enlightened people" try and draw a parallel between Margarito and Resto too. That must be ignorance, right?

One guy admitted he knew the padding was removed from his gloves and went to prison.

There's not a shred of evidence that the other guy fought a single fight with illegal hand-wraps and protests his innocence to this day. Plus has many preeminent figures in the boxing industry willing to back his innocence.

[Memphis]

@C.J.Rock were you present when the knuckle pad was made up for the Cotto fight? Was the blood on the inner pad (Mosley fight) ever tested? Have you ever been present pre Mosley when Capetillo made knuckle pads/wrapped hands? If so how were the pads looked after once made up?


These aren't leading questions by the way, just curious.


I think the course of action taken was the right one. For one reason only. The buck for the condition legal or otherwise of equipment falls with Margarito. No one believes a fighter when they say they had no idea the supplements they were taking were illegal. In fact believing them or not is irrelevant, it's their responsibility and they should pay the price. Capetillo or any other trainer saying a fighter could be blissfully unaware of what was in his gauze is irrelevant.

[C.J.Rock]

@C.J.Rock were you present when the knuckle pad was made up for the Cotto fight? Was the blood on the inner pad (Mosley fight) ever tested? Have you ever been present pre Mosley when Capetillo made knuckle pads/wrapped hands? If so how were the pads looked after once made up?


These aren't leading questions by the way, just curious.


I think the course of action taken was the right one. For one reason only. The buck for the condition legal or otherwise of equipment falls with Margarito. No one believes a fighter when they say they had no idea the supplements they were taking were illegal. In fact believing them or not is irrelevant, it's their responsibility and they should pay the price. Capetillo or any other trainer saying a fighter could be blissfully unaware of what was in his gauze is irrelevant.

To answer the first question .. Yes I was witnessed Margaritos hand wrapping many times over the years & have never seen anything illegal
2... The "blood" on the wrap was red dye from the gloves not blood & it was on the outside lol


Beleve me If I thought for one minute Tony Margarito had intentionally EVER tried to load his gloves I would be the first one calling for a lifetime ban.. Reso & Lewis should have been charged with manslaughter in the Billy Collins case


Incidentally why don't you try asking Nazim Richardson what happened to the "PLASTER BLOCKS" he claimed fell out of Margarito's wraps?? After all he was the ONLY one that claimed to have seen them

[C.J.Rock]

Until the day anyone can show me undeniable proof Antonio Margarito ever intentionally loaded or even TRIED to load his gloves I will always regard him as innocent. He has had his good name tarnished & his career tarnished by what to me was just a BLATANT LIE!!!!
What happened to the US law A man is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law
ROFL Margarito was never charged because they had nothing on him & would have been laughed out of court

[ruthless rocco]

Nothing to see here.
Move along.

[Fenster]

I think C.J.Rock's inside info is at least worth a read.

@ruthless rocco - so far this is your contribution to the thread.

welcome back loser!

HAHHAHahaHaHaHaHahaha!!!!!!!

"Boxing's Living Legend" (self proclaimed) Does it again!!!! Hahahhaha!

You know him personally huh?

What's that saying? Birds of a feather..? Haha! Couple of losers.

You're a used gauze pad.

Hahaha! What a loser!

"hand crème"

Hahahaha! I thought I was the biggest idiot on the forum!

Another CLASSIC!
Promise me you'll never change.

Poor fucker doesn't even get it! Haha!!!!

Nothing to see here.
Move along.

You have offered nothing to the debate. All you've done is insult someone that offers an alternative opinion.

[Memphis]

@C.J.Rock were you present when the knuckle pad was made up for the Cotto fight? Was the blood on the inner pad (Mosley fight) ever tested? Have you ever been present pre Mosley when Capetillo made knuckle pads/wrapped hands? If so how were the pads looked after once made up?


These aren't leading questions by the way, just curious.


I think the course of action taken was the right one. For one reason only. The buck for the condition legal or otherwise of equipment falls with Margarito. No one believes a fighter when they say they had no idea the supplements they were taking were illegal. In fact believing them or not is irrelevant, it's their responsibility and they should pay the price. Capetillo or any other trainer saying a fighter could be blissfully unaware of what was in his gauze is irrelevant.

To answer the first question .. Yes I was witnessed Margaritos hand wrapping many times over the years & have never seen anything illegal
2... The "blood" on the wrap was red dye from the gloves not blood & it was on the outside lol


Beleve me If I thought for one minute Tony Margarito had intentionally EVER tried to load his gloves I would be the first one calling for a lifetime ban.. Reso & Lewis should have been charged with manslaughter in the Billy Collins case


Incidentally why don't you try asking Nazim Richardson what happened to the "PLASTER BLOCKS" he claimed fell out of Margarito's wraps?? After all he was the ONLY one that claimed to have seen them

Thanks mate.


I don't think there's any need to bother Brother Nazim . The plaster blocks line is clearly a bit of poetic license, or bullshit, whichever way you like it.


Would it be fair to say that there is a portion of the hand wrapping process (making up the knuckle pad) that is going on 'behind closed doors'? That's the issue for me.


I'm not asking you to prove any innocence here, it's just that you're the closest link so I'm asking the question. For the Miguel Cotto fight did you see Capetillo make the knuckle pad from scratch? Or any other fight for that matter?

[C.J.Rock]

@C.J.Rock were you present when the knuckle pad was made up for the Cotto fight? Was the blood on the inner pad (Mosley fight) ever tested? Have you ever been present pre Mosley when Capetillo made knuckle pads/wrapped hands? If so how were the pads looked after once made up?


These aren't leading questions by the way, just curious.


I think the course of action taken was the right one. For one reason only. The buck for the condition legal or otherwise of equipment falls with Margarito. No one believes a fighter when they say they had no idea the supplements they were taking were illegal. In fact believing them or not is irrelevant, it's their responsibility and they should pay the price. Capetillo or any other trainer saying a fighter could be blissfully unaware of what was in his gauze is irrelevant.

To answer the first question .. Yes I was witnessed Margaritos hand wrapping many times over the years & have never seen anything illegal
2... The "blood" on the wrap was red dye from the gloves not blood & it was on the outside lol


Beleve me If I thought for one minute Tony Margarito had intentionally EVER tried to load his gloves I would be the first one calling for a lifetime ban.. Reso & Lewis should have been charged with manslaughter in the Billy Collins case


Incidentally why don't you try asking Nazim Richardson what happened to the "PLASTER BLOCKS" he claimed fell out of Margarito's wraps?? After all he was the ONLY one that claimed to have seen them

Thanks mate.


I don't think there's any need to bother Brother Nazim . The plaster blocks line is clearly a bit of poetic license, or bullshit, whichever way you like it.


Would it be fair to say that there is a portion of the hand wrapping process (making up the knuckle pad) that is going on 'behind closed doors'? That's the issue for me.


I'm not asking you to prove any innocence here, it's just that you're the closest link so I'm asking the question. For the Miguel Cotto fight did you see Capetillo make the knuckle pad from scratch? Or any other fight for that matter?

I watched the wrapping many times but never thought to pay that much attention Javier always had pads ready in his bag He said he accidently picked up a used one I have no reason to doubt that's what happened.

[TitoFan]

@C.J.Rock were you present when the knuckle pad was made up for the Cotto fight? Was the blood on the inner pad (Mosley fight) ever tested? Have you ever been present pre Mosley when Capetillo made knuckle pads/wrapped hands? If so how were the pads looked after once made up?


These aren't leading questions by the way, just curious.


I think the course of action taken was the right one. For one reason only. The buck for the condition legal or otherwise of equipment falls with Margarito. No one believes a fighter when they say they had no idea the supplements they were taking were illegal. In fact believing them or not is irrelevant, it's their responsibility and they should pay the price. Capetillo or any other trainer saying a fighter could be blissfully unaware of what was in his gauze is irrelevant.

To answer the first question .. Yes I was witnessed Margaritos hand wrapping many times over the years & have never seen anything illegal
2... The "blood" on the wrap was red dye from the gloves not blood & it was on the outside lol


Beleve me If I thought for one minute Tony Margarito had intentionally EVER tried to load his gloves I would be the first one calling for a lifetime ban.. Reso & Lewis should have been charged with manslaughter in the Billy Collins case


Incidentally why don't you try asking Nazim Richardson what happened to the "PLASTER BLOCKS" he claimed fell out of Margarito's wraps?? After all he was the ONLY one that claimed to have seen them

Thanks mate.


I don't think there's any need to bother Brother Nazim . The plaster blocks line is clearly a bit of poetic license, or bullshit, whichever way you like it.


Would it be fair to say that there is a portion of the hand wrapping process (making up the knuckle pad) that is going on 'behind closed doors'? That's the issue for me.


I'm not asking you to prove any innocence here, it's just that you're the closest link so I'm asking the question. For the Miguel Cotto fight did you see Capetillo make the knuckle pad from scratch? Or any other fight for that matter?

I watched the wrapping many times but never thought to pay that much attention Javier always had pads ready in his bag He said he accidently picked up a used one I have no reason to doubt that's what happened.

Ok so........ Javier Capetillo, a veteran trainer with more years of experience than some of us have been alive..... (cough) "accidentally" mistakes a USED gauze pad for a new one. For a MAJOR, nationally televised fight (not that it should make any difference how big the fight is).

..... accidentally picked up a used one...... Let's just let that sink in for a minute.

And of course, you believe that crock....er.... B.S.... er...excuse.... er.... story.


I'm sorry. But you're a close personal friend of Margarito and his wife. What ELSE are you supposed to do except defend him to the death? It's become painfully aware to me, as with everyone else, that you cannot possibly have an objective view on this matter.... 'cause it's personal to you. All this B.S. about a conspiracy, kangaroo court, whatever the hell you choose to call it.... falls on deaf ears. The damage has been done.... the punishment has been meted out. Who knows how many other times Capetillo "accidentally" inserted a used gauze pad, while Margarito remained blissfully unaware of what was going on.

[TitoFan]

"Less-than-fully-enlightened people" try and draw a parallel between Margarito and Resto too. That must be ignorance, right?

Two different people... two different cases. Doesn't in itself prove Margarito's innocence, though.

There's not a shred of evidence that the other guy fought a single fight with illegal hand-wraps and protests his innocence to this day.

Yes... he protests his innocence. Cheaters always take one of two different approaches when caught. O.J. Simpson to this day protests his innocence in the famous murder cases involving his ex and her boyfriend.

Plus has many preeminent figures in the boxing industry willing to back his innocence.

José Sulaiman (RIP) being one of them. To the bitter end.
Just like him... there must be at least 2-3 others.

[Fenster]

"Less-than-fully-enlightened people" try and draw a parallel between Margarito and Resto too. That must be ignorance, right?

Two different people... two different cases. Doesn't in itself prove Margarito's innocence, though.

There's not a shred of evidence that the other guy fought a single fight with illegal hand-wraps and protests his innocence to this day.

Yes... he protests his innocence. Cheaters always take one of two different approaches when caught. O.J. Simpson to this day protests his innocence in the famous murder cases involving his ex and her boyfriend.

Plus has many preeminent figures in the boxing industry willing to back his innocence.

José Sulaiman (RIP) being one of them. To the bitter end.
Just like him... there must be at least 2-3 others.

You agree that it's "ignorant" to compare Margarito with Resto?

[TitoFan]

"Less-than-fully-enlightened people" try and draw a parallel between Margarito and Resto too. That must be ignorance, right?

Two different people... two different cases. Doesn't in itself prove Margarito's innocence, though.

There's not a shred of evidence that the other guy fought a single fight with illegal hand-wraps and protests his innocence to this day.

Yes... he protests his innocence. Cheaters always take one of two different approaches when caught. O.J. Simpson to this day protests his innocence in the famous murder cases involving his ex and her boyfriend.

Plus has many preeminent figures in the boxing industry willing to back his innocence.

José Sulaiman (RIP) being one of them. To the bitter end.
Just like him... there must be at least 2-3 others.

You agree that it's "ignorant" to compare Margarito with Resto?

Selective Reading 101.

I personally passed on that elective.

[Fenster]

"Less-than-fully-enlightened people" try and draw a parallel between Margarito and Resto too. That must be ignorance, right?

Two different people... two different cases. Doesn't in itself prove Margarito's innocence, though.

There's not a shred of evidence that the other guy fought a single fight with illegal hand-wraps and protests his innocence to this day.

Yes... he protests his innocence. Cheaters always take one of two different approaches when caught. O.J. Simpson to this day protests his innocence in the famous murder cases involving his ex and her boyfriend.

Plus has many preeminent figures in the boxing industry willing to back his innocence.

José Sulaiman (RIP) being one of them. To the bitter end.
Just like him... there must be at least 2-3 others.

You agree that it's "ignorant" to compare Margarito with Resto?

Selective Reading 101.

I personally passed on that elective.

You don't agree it's "ignorant" to compare Margarito with Resto?

[TitoFan]

"Less-than-fully-enlightened people" try and draw a parallel between Margarito and Resto too. That must be ignorance, right?

Two different people... two different cases. Doesn't in itself prove Margarito's innocence, though.

There's not a shred of evidence that the other guy fought a single fight with illegal hand-wraps and protests his innocence to this day.

Yes... he protests his innocence. Cheaters always take one of two different approaches when caught. O.J. Simpson to this day protests his innocence in the famous murder cases involving his ex and her boyfriend.

Plus has many preeminent figures in the boxing industry willing to back his innocence.

José Sulaiman (RIP) being one of them. To the bitter end.
Just like him... there must be at least 2-3 others.

You agree that it's "ignorant" to compare Margarito with Resto?

Selective Reading 101.

I personally passed on that elective.

You don't agree it's "ignorant" to compare Margarito with Resto?

That's beside the point, isn't it.
You ignore 90% of my post.
What do you expect in return.