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    With Floyd though he is the whole package in there at any distance. Not only economy of movement so he can stay in the pocket to counter hard but also take some shots like a sponge or check and spoil a shot before it launches as his body moves around into deal position.Then could also get out and keep distance dancing backwards, side slipping and make the other guy look like he is on a chain, which pisses off the crowds who go to watch him get caught and hurt.I would have loved to have seen him fight from he ground up just once,I have no doubt he could though, not like we saw Marquez do head to head that time but Im sure he could find another way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre View Post
    With Floyd though he is the whole package in there at any distance. Not only economy of movement so he can stay in the pocket to counter hard but also take some shots like a sponge or check and spoil a shot before it launches as his body moves around into deal position.Then could also get out and keep distance dancing backwards, side slipping and make the other guy look like he is on a chain, which pisses off the crowds who go to watch him get caught and hurt.I would have loved to have seen him fight from he ground up just once,I have no doubt he could though, not like we saw Marquez do head to head that time but Im sure he could find another way.
    Good points but I think with a guy like Floyd once one part of the rolex starts to not be at 100% it then effects all the other mechanisms that seem to work in unison. In effect his perfection and technical superiority makes him more open when it starts to fail because the things he was able to get away with he simply wont be able to execute. That punch he was not there for he now receives.

    Up until now he has operated like he has a third eye. Sees the punch almost before its thrown. Roy Jones was like that. Off the planet anticipation and the reflexes to go with it. Once he lost that he started getting beat by guys that couldn't carry his gym bag. Ftr I do think he comes back and would most likely bet my left nut on it. The money will be phenomenal. I dont see him waiting 3 years like Leonard to wait on the Kazak to start to decay but I'm certain it will be for some middleweight version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Andre View Post
    With Floyd though he is the whole package in there at any distance. Not only economy of movement so he can stay in the pocket to counter hard but also take some shots like a sponge or check and spoil a shot before it launches as his body moves around into deal position.Then could also get out and keep distance dancing backwards, side slipping and make the other guy look like he is on a chain, which pisses off the crowds who go to watch him get caught and hurt.I would have loved to have seen him fight from he ground up just once,I have no doubt he could though, not like we saw Marquez do head to head that time but Im sure he could find another way.
    Good points but I think with a guy like Floyd once one part of the rolex starts to not be at 100% it then effects all the other mechanisms that seem to work in unison. In effect his perfection and technical superiority makes him more open when it starts to fail because the things he was able to get away with he simply wont be able to execute. That punch he was not there for he now receives.

    Up until now he has operated like he has a third eye. Sees the punch almost before its thrown. Roy Jones was like that. Off the planet anticipation and the reflexes to go with it. Once he lost that he started getting beat by guys that couldn't carry his gym bag. Ftr I do think he comes back and would most likely bet my left nut on it. The money will be phenomenal. I dont see him waiting 3 years like Leonard to wait on the Kazak to start to decay but I'm certain it will be for some middleweight version.
    Now I'm a big RJJ fan, but the thing that separates Floyd from Roy is that Floyd has excellent boxing fundamentals where Roy had freakish athletic abilities and incredible dexterity that allowed him to dominate opponents without being a technical boxer. Floyd is an outstanding boxer with incredible boxing skills. When Roy slipped he didn't have the same fundamentals to fall back on like Floyd does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Andre View Post
    With Floyd though he is the whole package in there at any distance. Not only economy of movement so he can stay in the pocket to counter hard but also take some shots like a sponge or check and spoil a shot before it launches as his body moves around into deal position.Then could also get out and keep distance dancing backwards, side slipping and make the other guy look like he is on a chain, which pisses off the crowds who go to watch him get caught and hurt.I would have loved to have seen him fight from he ground up just once,I have no doubt he could though, not like we saw Marquez do head to head that time but Im sure he could find another way.
    Good points but I think with a guy like Floyd once one part of the rolex starts to not be at 100% it then effects all the other mechanisms that seem to work in unison. In effect his perfection and technical superiority makes him more open when it starts to fail because the things he was able to get away with he simply wont be able to execute. That punch he was not there for he now receives.

    Up until now he has operated like he has a third eye. Sees the punch almost before its thrown. Roy Jones was like that. Off the planet anticipation and the reflexes to go with it. Once he lost that he started getting beat by guys that couldn't carry his gym bag. Ftr I do think he comes back and would most likely bet my left nut on it. The money will be phenomenal. I dont see him waiting 3 years like Leonard to wait on the Kazak to start to decay but I'm certain it will be for some middleweight version.
    Now I'm a big RJJ fan, but the thing that separates Floyd from Roy is that Floyd has excellent boxing fundamentals where Roy had freakish athletic abilities and incredible dexterity that allowed him to dominate opponents without being a technical boxer. Floyd is an outstanding boxer with incredible boxing skills. When Roy slipped he didn't have the same fundamentals to fall back on like Floyd does.

    Agreed but I was not really comparing them in that way. I'm simply saying that Floyd is like a fine tuned machine and once those special attributes start to erode a guy who fights the way he does relying on milliseconds could get it wrong. He's got that extra something and once that starts to go his entire mechanism gets effected. A guy like Maidana would have never laid a hand on Floyd for example. He's not ageless and and in a state of entropy just like the rest of us and the tools he uses within it. I think when a special fighter like Floyd starts to really unravel that it will look to many that it happened overnight but I think its a process with a fighter that uses the tools he does.

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