People couldn't wait for Floyd's retirement. I can't wait for Wlad's......

[Freedom]

I don't really care if he retires or not. There is no one up and coming that brings anything really to the table at this point. If you can't beat wlad then there's no hope for the division anyways.

Anthony Joshua appears to me to be as good as Lennox, prime Wlad of 2009 or anyone else (of course we won't know for sure until he faces some top 25 HWS).

[tysonesque]

I don't really care if he retires or not. There is no one up and coming that brings anything really to the table at this point. If you can't beat wlad then there's no hope for the division anyways.

Anthony Joshua appears to me to be as good as Lennox, prime Wlad of 2009 or anyone else (of course we won't know for sure until he faces some top 25 HWS).

Based on what?

All he's done is faced a bunch of stiffs and hasn't even been hit.

The only thing you can say about Joshua is that he hits hard. He's not the first heavyweight with a big punch and he certainly doesn't have anything in common with Lennox Lewis.

[Mr140]

Never seen such dumb fucking words spoken i mean the man is 39 and has a injury. I would rather him be at 100 percent i do not want excuse if people lose so let them heal. Wlad been champ for 10 years and pretty much fought everyone gets a injury at old age everyone starts acting like a twat.

[Master]

After seeing Wilder, it makes you appreciate Wlad because crap like Wilder/Haye/Valuev should never be champions.

[erics44]

Never seen such dumb fucking words spoken i mean the man is 39 and has a injury. I would rather him be at 100 percent i do not want excuse if people lose so let them heal. Wlad been champ for 10 years and pretty much fought everyone gets a injury at old age everyone starts acting like a twat.

I don't know if 'fought everybody' it's the phrase you should use

I mean, he didn't fight provetkin

[Violent Demise]

Never seen such dumb fucking words spoken i mean the man is 39 and has a injury. I would rather him be at 100 percent i do not want excuse if people lose so let them heal. Wlad been champ for 10 years and pretty much fought everyone gets a injury at old age everyone starts acting like a twat.

I don't know if 'fought everybody' it's the phrase you should use

I mean, he didn't fight provetkin

Yet Provetkin still got dropped 4 times and lost a lopsided decision.

[Master]

Never seen such dumb fucking words spoken i mean the man is 39 and has a injury. I would rather him be at 100 percent i do not want excuse if people lose so let them heal. Wlad been champ for 10 years and pretty much fought everyone gets a injury at old age everyone starts acting like a twat.

I don't know if 'fought everybody' it's the phrase you should use

I mean, he didn't fight provetkin

Yet Provetkin still got dropped 4 times and lost a lopsided decision.

Its povetkin

[Violent Demise]

Never seen such dumb fucking words spoken i mean the man is 39 and has a injury. I would rather him be at 100 percent i do not want excuse if people lose so let them heal. Wlad been champ for 10 years and pretty much fought everyone gets a injury at old age everyone starts acting like a twat.

I don't know if 'fought everybody' it's the phrase you should use

I mean, he didn't fight provetkin

Yet Provetkin still got dropped 4 times and lost a lopsided decision.

Its povetkin

He also got dropped 4 times

[erics44]

Never seen such dumb fucking words spoken i mean the man is 39 and has a injury. I would rather him be at 100 percent i do not want excuse if people lose so let them heal. Wlad been champ for 10 years and pretty much fought everyone gets a injury at old age everyone starts acting like a twat.

I don't know if 'fought everybody' it's the phrase you should use

I mean, he didn't fight provetkin

Yet Provetkin still got dropped 4 times and lost a lopsided decision.

he got hugged a lot more times than that

[TitoFan]

Never seen such dumb fucking words spoken i mean the man is 39 and has a injury. I would rather him be at 100 percent i do not want excuse if people lose so let them heal. Wlad been champ for 10 years and pretty much fought everyone gets a injury at old age everyone starts acting like a twat.

Gee really?

What a f*cking coincidence... that the guy tears a calf muscle right after the opponent gets up in his face, showing him a complete lack of fear and respect. An opponent that can look him in the eye without tilting his head up. An opponent Wlad knows full well is capable of destroying that china chin he protects more than the gold in Fort Knox. What a f*cking coincidence.

A torn calf muscle..... have we heard anything else about the injury? Was there an MRI done? Does Wlad have a history of torn calf muscles? Did Wlad embark on a totally different, radical way of training which caused this torn calf muscle?

The goddamn division is in a shambles and we finally have the most anticipated fight in YEARS!!!
And Wlad conveniently pulls a CALF MUSCLE!

Don't want to hear that shit about Wlad being 39 years old and all the bullshit excuses you would predictably make for him. Precisely BECAUSE he's always in excellent shape is PRECISELY the reason why it's so suspicious, FFS. If he was some blubbery, training-adverse tub of lard.... I'd understand it more. Hell.... I would've expected a pulled calf muscle more from Fury than from Wlad. It's a B.S. excuse. That's all it is..... and if you polled the boxing world, you'd find most people are at least a little suspicious of the injury.

Why didn't Wlad pull a damn calf muscle before Pianeta?? Or before Leapai?? Or before Thompson twice?? Because he knew these bums posed NO DANGER..... that's why!

So if you want to give Wlad a free pass on his cowardly dropout, as much as it hurts the sport of boxing..... be my guest. Just don't expect the rest of us to fall for his line of bullshit.

[palmerq]

A torn calf muscle..... have we heard anything else about the injury? Was there an MRI done? Does Wlad have a history of torn calf muscles? Did Wlad embark on a totally different, radical way of training which caused this torn calf muscle?

The doctor who treated wladimir and did the scan has been quoted saying it's torn and the fight should be postponed.. More details on Klitschko injury | Boxing News | Fightnews
He is a very famous doctor who treats a lot of sportsmen so you would hope he could be trusted but he could well be in on it too.

[TitoFan]

A torn calf muscle..... have we heard anything else about the injury? Was there an MRI done? Does Wlad have a history of torn calf muscles? Did Wlad embark on a totally different, radical way of training which caused this torn calf muscle?

The doctor who treated wladimir and did the scan has been quoted saying it's torn and the fight should be postponed.. More details on Klitschko injury | Boxing News | Fightnews
He is a very famous doctor who treats a lot of sportsmen so you would hope he could be trusted but he could well be in on it too.

Torn calf muscle.... yet the fight supposedly has only been pushed back a month. Good thing we have those doctors who know a hell of a lot more about medicine than us mere mortals. Here I would've thought a torn calf muscle would set Wlad back at least 3-4 months.

Also, no you're right. If a doctor says something about a sportsman, his word is gold. May I recommend "On Any Given Sunday"? Gives you a little insight into doctors in the NFL. But again.... hey... a doctor said it so it must be true. Heaven forbid any special interests might come into play.

[palmerq]

A torn calf muscle..... have we heard anything else about the injury? Was there an MRI done? Does Wlad have a history of torn calf muscles? Did Wlad embark on a totally different, radical way of training which caused this torn calf muscle?

The doctor who treated wladimir and did the scan has been quoted saying it's torn and the fight should be postponed.. More details on Klitschko injury | Boxing News | Fightnews
He is a very famous doctor who treats a lot of sportsmen so you would hope he could be trusted but he could well be in on it too.

Also, no you're right. If a doctor says something about a sportsman, his word is gold. May I recommend "On Any Given Sunday"? Gives you a little insight into doctors in the NFL. But again.... hey... a doctor said it so it must be true. Heaven forbid any special interests might come into play.

that's what i said, the doctor could well be in on it :S

[ykdadamaja]

I don't really care if he retires or not. There is no one up and coming that brings anything really to the table at this point. If you can't beat wlad then there's no hope for the division anyways.

Anthony Joshua appears to me to be as good as Lennox, prime Wlad of 2009 or anyone else (of course we won't know for sure until he faces some top 25 HWS).

Based on what?

All he's done is faced a bunch of stiffs and hasn't even been hit.

The only thing you can say about Joshua is that he hits hard. He's not the first heavyweight with a big punch and he certainly doesn't have anything in common with Lennox Lewis.

Joshua has never been forced to go 8 or 9 hard rounds of REAL work in a real fight setting. So we don't know how he will respond. Also, I don't remember him being hit. Wilder has been 12 and at least has been hit by Stiverne and by Molina.

[#1FightFan]

100% agreed. ive never seen such a big powerful man unwilling to fight. its a disgrace. if i was that size and skilled, with that right hand power, id be knocking MF'ers out left and right!! not plodding, jabbing, hugging MF'ers to death. povetkin & haye fights are perfect examples of wlads bullshit.

go away wlad. MF was even too scared to fight briggs. who got under his skin like no one else.
wlad is scared to death of briggs. now fury it seems too.