Milford, CT Mayor bans Halloween festivities

[brocktonblockbust]

In the UK we say Asian to refer to both groups (for want of a better word) and always have done.

If you said - "I'm going for an Asian," I would most likely think you meant an Indian curry house as there are billions of them in Britain (I believe it's the most popular grub here). What you would hear though for distinction is

"I'm going for a Chinese"

"I'm going for an Indian"

"I'm going for a Ruby" (slang for curry)

How bout "meh gwon fuh deh ackee n saltfish Mon"

[p4pking]

If someone told me I'd won a trip to the UK that included going for asians, finding out it was food would really irk me....

[X]

The "I think everyone should live under Sharia"/"We're bringing Sharia to countries that already have laws" crowd is the dangerous Islamic political arm of those who would participate/fund terrorist attacks against us

Would you say that it's a bit like the "we think everyone should live under 'democracy'/We are bringing democracy to countries that already have their own political systems ...... which is the dangerous political arm of those who who would participate and fund illegal wars?

Fuck me, I'm sounding like a bloody lefty. I better sit down and cool my forehead for a while.

[X]

Hold your tongue? I never asked for that.

I'm innocently asking Englishmen for their views...I'm not saying you guys are defending anyone. Assume I'm from Mars, and I know nothing about anything that has happened in Rotherham...I want to know about what happened, I'm asking you guys because you're English, you live there, you're no doubt hearing more than me.

I'm not asking for a debate I'm asking for clarification and I come to both of you because you're friendly.

Personally, I suspect that the Rotherham crimes were committed by members of the poorest, least integrated and worst educated stratum of society. They happen to be Pakistani in Rotherham, but I wouldn't be too surprised if other, or similar, crimes are being committed in other cities or countries by another 'race' or nationality ..... who are the poorest, least integrated and worst educated stratum of that society.

having said that, the local Council have covered themselves with shame for their incompetence, inaction, beaurocracy and political correctness. They should burn in hell for that, as should all councils as a matter of principle

Also, the idiots and fools worldwide who bastardise a religion onto some sort of medieval pubescent boys fantasy should also be eventually judged by their heavenly best mate too
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[El Kabong]

Would you say that it's a bit like the "we think everyone should live under 'democracy'/We are bringing democracy to countries that already have their own political systems ...... which is the dangerous political arm of those who who would participate and fund illegal wars?

Fuck me, I'm sounding like a bloody lefty. I better sit down and cool my forehead for a while.

Hey, could be, could be and maybe it's a communication problem, but for those of us who know and understand democracy/representative republics as opposed to authoritarian theocracies know that those kinds of governments (democracies & republics) are more open, more productive, more accepting, and more free. In the democracies/republics you can still practice your religion...but you have to follow a few rules which one would assume ALL religions would accept: life, liberty(so long as it does not conflict with the 'life' portion of these rights), estate(you keep what you own/create through gift or trade).....outside of those rights you can follow any religion you like as closely as you like...so what is there to not accept about that?

The Constitution of the United States (and yes how tired all of you must be reading about that) LIMITS government...rule by any (repeat ANY) religious book alone limits your individual liberty (especially the liberty of women IMO).




I don't know if Islam itself is to blame or if it's partly to blame or if it's specifically the Pakistani/Afghani/Indian/Middle Eastern cultures and of course the cultures and religion (and the different sects therein). You take something like the Catholic Priest pedophile scandal and compare it to this and you'd have the same kind of questions...is it the religion? is it the culture? is it just a lack of proper education? Or are there just some very evil people around in this world? All I am sure are true to some extent or another....but I having been born and raised Protestant Christian I can't explain the Catholic Priest mess any more than I can explain the rape epidemic in India or the scandal in Rotherham. I just want clarification on these subjects, we as freedom loving (some of us) citizens should find the root cause of these issues and nip it in the bud. With the Catholics the priests can't marry, they can't have sexual relations, the pool of talent the Catholics are picking their priests from is small enough already with it being just men, but to throw in all the extras it's a recipe for disaster as we've witnessed. And see those little details I understand about the Catholic Priests gives me some understanding of what went wrong, what was to blame.....I don't have that kind of clarity for what is happening in India and what happened in Rotherham.

[walrus]

The "I think everyone should live under Sharia"/"We're bringing Sharia to countries that already have laws" crowd is the dangerous Islamic political arm of those who would participate/fund terrorist attacks against us

Would you say that it's a bit like the "we think everyone should live under 'democracy'/We are bringing democracy to countries that already have their own political systems ...... which is the dangerous political arm of those who who would participate and fund illegal wars?

Fuck me, I'm sounding like a bloody lefty. I better sit down and cool my forehead for a while.

Actually, your reasoning has logic. The Bush plan to bring democracy to Iraq and Afghanistan didn't work too well. Perhaps it was a noble effort but with all the hopes of the Arab spring it didn't look to good. Having said at, I have no clue what the answer is.

[brocktonblockbust]

What a f****** liar! of course you have solved it ......you already have found the answer and it is .......Ass Candle

[Master]

These pedophile/sex offenders can be middle class or working class, Muslim or Christian.

They need to be castrated.

[El Kabong]

These pedophile/sex offenders can be middle class or working class, Muslim or Christian.

They need to be castrated.

I don't disagree Master, I don't disagree. That said, in some cases common sense should prevail like if there's a 19 year old going out with a 16 year old which has happened before and if the 19 year old is a boy sometimes the 19 year old is vilified and prosecuted....it has happened before. And that is also why I am so adamant about rape being actual rape and not some of the PC nonsense that people want to shove under the banner of rape. Rape is fucking real, it's awful, and it shouldn't be trivialized in the court of law when some jackass gets their feelings hurt over something that isn't technically rape (and again, this kind of shit has happened as well).


But if there is a culture or a religion or anything that is harboring rapists, trying to excuse rapists (the actual rapists, not the bullshit PC "rapists") then those cultures and religions need to get educated, everyone needs to get on the same page and work together to keep these kind of things from happening again.

[X]

Exactly, Lyle. It's a matter of education and movement into the 21st century in terms of how people should be treated and regarded. That's why it was the most uneducated and isolated section of society that did these (revolting and illegal) acts. They should go to jail for that. they groomed and raped thick drug addicted young girls.

Saying that it's a 'cultural' issue is not only pandering to people's sense of victimhood but also fuelling the racist element of society and driving even more wedges into our cities.

The wholly unbelievable failure of our Social Services to discover and act on this was criminal in itself. Many, if not most, of the victims were apparently in the care of Social Services ..... But, funnily enough, nobody has been fired!

The local council decided that they would not talk about this or really do anything about it, because they were afraid of being labelled as racist. Plus, of course, the Pakistani vote is very very important for their unpeeled and pointless careers.

The whole thing was a perfect storm of circumstances, poor judgement and fear of offending the PC brigade.

Brits do seem to think we have fewer race issues than you do in the States (and, having lived in both places, I do tend to agree). Race is also a sensitive and problematic issue in the UK, but it does tend to be less overt and more subtle than in the U.S., which of course makes it even harder to address.

[Master]

What people also do not mention is that these sex offenders may have tried it closer to home and within their (extended) family. There may be more hidden victims.

[El Kabong]

Exactly, Lyle. It's a matter of education and movement into the 21st century in terms of how people should be treated and regarded. That's why it was the most uneducated and isolated section of society that did these (revolting and illegal) acts. They should go to jail for that. they groomed and raped thick drug addicted young girls.

Saying that it's a 'cultural' issue is not only pandering to people's sense of victimhood but also fuelling the racist element of society and driving even more wedges into our cities.

The wholly unbelievable failure of our Social Services to discover and act on this was criminal in itself. Many, if not most, of the victims were apparently in the care of Social Services ..... But, funnily enough, nobody has been fired!

The local council decided that they would not talk about this or really do anything about it, because they were afraid of being labelled as racist. Plus, of course, the Pakistani vote is very very important for their unpeeled and pointless careers.

The whole thing was a perfect storm of circumstances, poor judgement and fear of offending the PC brigade.

Brits do seem to think we have fewer race issues than you do in the States (and, having lived in both places, I do tend to agree). Race is also a sensitive and problematic issue in the UK, but it does tend to be less overt and more subtle than in the U.S., which of course makes it even harder to address.

Yes absolutely, and this is why we cannot tolerate "no go zones" and let's not kid ourselves there are a few out there. The "no go zones" aren't specific to any 1 group, many groups have them and mostly they are "no go zones" due to extreme violence.....that can't be allowed ever at all. The laws of the land must be enforced, they must be applicable to all the strongest to the weakest the richest to the poorest.

I'm not saying "it's a cultural issue" I'm ASKING if it's a cultural issue because if it is it should be addressed. Asking questions about it shouldn't be frowned upon either, I want a greater understanding of what is happening, what is going on, and what is causing it...if it's people who are misunderstanding a religion then educate them as they are being rehabilitated in prison. And if it's NOT a cultural or religious thing, then all the better to make certain people understand that so any kind of racism or xenophobia is quelled.

People in charge of protecting and serving the community that allow for such things to happen AND the lawmakers that allow for such things to happen should be held accountable.

The local council that allowed this to happen for fear of being labeled racist or to advance their political careers has by their dereliction of duty created fodder for racists....surely that must be addressed no?

Where did you live in the states? Also thank you for taking the time to reply to me.....some people get too angry....which hell I can anger some people I admit it sometimes I even try to piss people off (it's kind of what the internet is for, anonymously pissing people off),but also the internet makes it difficult to infer the tone of a post.

[El Kabong]

What people also do not mention is that these sex offenders may have tried it closer to home and within their (extended) family. There may be more hidden victims.

Very true and if it is an issue among refugees, like Australia is having a Hell of a time with their UN camps for refugees (which I guess is what you'd refer to them as)...then victims might be less likely to come forward and/or trust law enforcement because of their interactions with law enforcement in their home countries could have been bad ones.

[Spicoli]

Isn't this ban only in public schools? We screwed those up decades ago but its good to see a City Mayor have priorities in order, ya know. As opposed to the whole reading, writing and actually showing up to class stuff.

Halloween is probably one of the first good experiences with using imagination for kids. Remember making your first costume? School and Halloween parties started shit for me. In the 4th grade I dressed up as a "zombie". Torn pants, great half mask half make up. Out teacher gave out costume ribbons of all types. Scariest, most creative, historical etc etc. My ribbon was "most hysterical costume" Not exactly what I was going for . The next year I dressed as "Burglar". Boots, levis, camo jacket and the topper was a pull down ski mask worn as a hat. On the way to school I was stopped by two cop cars after someone reported me as suspicious and advised to leave the ski mask in the principles office for my ol man to pick up. No ribbon that year

[El Kabong]

Isn't this ban only in public schools? We screwed those up decades ago but its good to see a City Mayor have priorities in order, ya know. As opposed to the whole reading, writing and actually showing up to class stuff.

Halloween is probably one of the first good experiences with using imagination for kids. Remember making your first costume? School and Halloween parties started shit for me. In the 4th grade I dressed up as a "zombie". Torn pants, great half mask half make up. Out teacher gave out costume ribbons of all types. Scariest, most creative, historical etc etc. My ribbon was "most hysterical costume" Not exactly what I was going for . The next year I dressed as "Burglar". Boots, levis, camo jacket and the topper was a pull down ski mask worn as a hat. On the way to school I was stopped by two cop cars after someone reported me as suspicious and advised to leave the ski mask in the principles office for my ol man to pick up. No ribbon that year

My elementary school used to have a Halloween/Fall Fair....we had a dunk tank, bobbing for apples, a spooky maze made out of big cardboard boxes, lots of games and prizes and this was after school so children and parents could meet each other, make new friends, see old friends, meet and interact with the teachers, inspire a sense of community with some harmless fun and general merrymaking.

The PC Nazis can really fuck some shit up with their good intentions